Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[sptrawler]

In a Court of Law Donald Trump would be convicted within a week on the evidence around the charges made against him.

In a Senate 52/100 Republician Senators appear determined to acquit him regardless of what is said just because he is their Republican President and they are in thrall to him. That's politics in the US in 2020. Nothing to do with criminal behavior or evidence.

You have to relax Bas, you will only make yourself unwell. What is the old saying, give me the strengh to change what I can and the serenity to accept what I cant.
Its a new year and hopefully Australia can turn the corner and become great again, well that isnt correct, Australia is always great we just have to keep it that way for future generations.
Way too much negative sentiment at the moment.
We are doing a great job, moving over to renewables, mining is on the up, all we have to do is source some tertiary industry and change our education system back to what it was 30 years ago.

 

[wayneL]

In a Court of Law Donald Trump would be convicted within a week on the evidence around the charges made against him.

.

LMAO

Says our resident ersatz legal expert.

However, Biden, having made a confession on TV for the self same crime, would (should) be in a spot of bother.

 

[basilio]

SP I disagree with you about never having a positive attitude towards Donald Trump. My feelings about him are with regard to his policies, his personal behaviour and his political corruptness. If these were to change I would be delighted to have a positive view of him . The road to Damascus is always open.

About relaxing. Fair point. There is no point in getting over-agitated about the Don. Far better to take a more positive approach about dealing with the issue. I was really impressed with Greta Thunbergs response to Trumps attempts to trash her nomination for Person of the Year in Time magazine plus the other insults he continually made.

She thought they were just hilarious Very disarming and effective on both a personal level and in the public eye.

 

[bellenuit]

LMAO

Says our resident ersatz legal expert.

However, Biden, having made a confession on TV for the self same crime, would (should) be in a spot of bother.

No he didn't. Where did you get that idea?

 

[explod]

An interesting angle to reality here. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Trump but everything against him is trumped up. They want him out as he is not following the rules of keeping the US as world ruler.

And as a former prosecuted myself I can say that there is no evidence against Trump that would make the points of proof required for any conviction.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-were-warned-about-deep-state-refused-listen

 

[dutchie]

In a Court of Law Donald Trump would be convicted within a week on the evidence around the charges made against him.

What evidence?

 

[Knobby22]

What evidence?

Really?

 

[explod]

Really?

Ok, run it past us.

 

[wayneL]

No he didn't. Where did you get that idea?

Mate, Biden's quid pro quo confession is all over the damned Internet!

Come.
On!

 

[dutchie]

Really?

Yes, really!

 

[wayneL]

The TDS is strong in these ones

 

[Knobby22]

Yes, really!

Well look it up or read the thread.
Already posted.
Argue your case.
It just gets boring.

 

[Knobby22]

The TDS is strong in these ones

Onya Yoda.

 

[moXJO]

Well look it up or read the thread.
Already posted.
Argue your case.
It just gets boring.

It's a weak weak case.

 

[moXJO]

The case against the fbi in the IG report was telling. I remember a lot here backing that shtbag James Comey to the hilt.
"Oh the fbi are clean" I so often heard.
Turns out they made some grave judgments of error under the master of spin.

At what point do you guys wonder if it's fake news against Trump?
I have seen complete lack of reasonable judgement when it comes to accusations against Trump. You would literally back stories that Trump killed the dinosaurs out of some weird obsession.

All I do is point out reality most of the time and I get labeled a Trump supporter.
Seriously worrying stuff.

 

[bellenuit]

Mate, Biden's quid pro quo confession is all over the damned Internet!

Come.
On!

So you would have no trouble finding it then, but failed to do so. I have been following this issue closely since it began and have never found what you are claiming. Perhaps it is the difference between understanding what is a legitimate action by Biden and an illegitimate action by the president. Do you know the difference?

And you said he confessed to a crime. So why hasn't any action being taken, considering the AG is a puppet of Trump and being able to legally incriminate Biden through the US court system does not entail using unconstitutional activities such as seeking the aid of a foreign government to incriminate your political opponent and would also not raise suspicions of doing Putin's work or involve dealing with shady people like Giuliani and his corrupt associates?

 

[explod]

Spot on moJXo. The FBI have been devious for over 60 years and set up to be that way. Why people are goaded by everyday press and community rubbish I find hard to understand. But of course with modern TV and computer amusements few think at all anymore.

The FBI was a gradual creation of J Edgar Hoover from about 1922 as a young librarian he began collecting bits and pieces of gossip and wrongdoing's of people over him then in the upper class to a point where they would follow the party line rather than be exposed. He became the leader of the forming FBI. In later years he totally controlled eight Presidents and after his death this has followed on. Trump is not and will not bend to this established control so the FBI have been doing everything in it's power to stop him. Except they do not have enough factual stuff so have been trying to create it.

I have mentioned this many times. If you are going to be able to enter these sort of discussions, do some groundwork and reading. And one of the most outstanding is the biography by Curt Gentry, "J Edgar Hoover, the man and the secrets" 2001

I was lucky, mine's a hardback, I purchased off the Mornington Library (for $1) about 10 years ago when apparently a word went out to get rid of them. So it's hard to find now which is also interesting.

Of course this is just the beginning of this. Again I've mentioned this too. The US began interfering in the Ukraine Government just before that plane crash (Russia said to be the culprits) their purpose to put a halt to Russia being able to export oil and gas to Europe. Same as Saddam Hussain and his non-existent weapons of mass destruction. Iraq was trucking oil to Russia.

As for Hillary Clinton she was up to her eyeballs under the previous President on the Ukraine interference.

Trump seems to realise that Russia, China and a number of others can no longer be kicked around. Unfortunately the Democrats do not realise or do not want to move away from the old control method. And of course that makes sense, the money to support the US$ is the oil, gas and munitions. ISIS for example use USA weaponry.

So please do some proper research and have a think. Because Trump is right wing and my desire is the Marxist system equal for all.

 

[wayneL]

So you would have no trouble finding it then, but failed to do so. I have been following this issue closely since it began and have never found what you are claiming. Perhaps it is the difference between understanding what is a legitimate action by Biden and an illegitimate action by the president. Do you know the difference?

And you said he confessed to a crime. So why hasn't any action being taken, considering the AG is a puppet of Trump and being able to legally incriminate Biden through the US court system does not entail using unconstitutional activities such as seeking the aid of a foreign government to incriminate your political opponent and would also not raise suspicions of doing Putin's work or involve dealing with shady people like Giuliani and his corrupt associates?

FFS I have to do all the work around here!



and

 

[dutchie]

Well look it up or read the thread.
Already posted.
Argue your case.
It just gets boring.

No factual evidence has been posted. Repeating the same old bull**** does not make it a fact. (ask Schiff and Nadler - they could not even make up their minds what to charge him with because there was no evidence!)
A man is innocent until proven guilty. It is up the accuser to prove the guilt.
The only fact so far is the Trump beat Hillary, and is the President.

 

[kahuna1]

Talk about altered reality ...
\5 Law professors of who 4 ... found undeniable cause for impeachment ...

In fact 7 witness's who testified ... ONE ... Sondaland .. who admitted it was QUID PRO ... and they all were in on it ... Trump VP Pence ... Pompeo ... two others.

And I read this thread, a person admitting guilt ... in fact 7 ... and still a debate ? Aid was with held from a nation who was invaded by Russia unless an investigation was launched into the leading 2020 Democratic contender.

Its pretty simple ... or so I thought along with 4 very senior professors and even the 5th on the second count or obstruction waved the white flag that this had occurred.

Of course in the corrupt USA law and justice and rule of law matters for nil.
It matters for Nil till it does matter.

I know that I have zero idea of the future other than 2020 will be nuttier than 2019 and 2018 added together.

The Stock market and CEO;'s and billionaires have already voted and Warren has no change in 2020 according to them, Sanders even less ....

Strange but with Sanders hitting 5 million individual donations and 1 million people as volunteers I sadly think they are underestimating that everyone has one single power in the USA. The power to vote. That 120 million people have medical debts, 25% of people delay buying medication and 7 million MORE lost any form of health cover in 2019, I suspect he has some chance.

I could run through most of the USA reported economics and do the same.

Two weeks ago China actually banned all USA software by 2024 after doing the same for all USA made computers and chips .... and the market ? It rallied.