Global Warming - How Valid and Serious?

well this is what the Instituton of Engineers (Aust) magazine thinks of this

Central Plank Of Global Warming Alarmism Discredited
Inspiration for Al Gore's movie cover, contention that global warming causes intense hurricanes, discredited by professor who first proposed it

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Monday, April 14, 2008


One of the central philosophies of climate change alarmism and an image that adorned the cover of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth - the contention that global warming causes deadly hurricanes - has been completely discredited by the expert who first proposed it.

Hurricane buff and professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT Kerry Emanuel asserted for over 20 years that global warming breeds more frequent and stronger storms and he shot to prominence just one month before Hurricane Katrina in 2005 when he delivered the "final proof" that global warming was already causing extreme weather events and wrecking livelihoods.

Emanuel was subsequently acknowledged with a place in Time Magazine's "100 People Who Shape Our World" list.

Al Gore was so inspired by Emanuel's research that he devoted the iconic front cover image of his 2006 movie An Inconvenient Truth to his warning, portraying a hurricane emerging from a Co2-belching smokestack.


An inconvenient cover image - Al Gore's depiction of global warming's contribution to hurricanes has been completely discredited.

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Unfortunately for the church of environmentalism, who ceaselessly profess to have a monopoly on truth and insist that "the debate is over" on global warming, Emanuel has completely recanted his position and now admits that hurricanes and storms will actually decline over the next 200 years and have little or no correlation with global temperature change whatsoever.

"Emanuel's newest work, co-authored with two other researchers, simulates hurricane conditions nearly 200 years in the future. The research -- the first to mesh global climate models with small-scale high-resolution simulations of individual storms -- found that while storm strength rises slightly in some areas, it falls in others -- and the total number of worldwide storms actually declines slightly," reports Daily Tech.

"The new work suggests that, even in a dramatically warming world, hurricane frequency and intensity may not substantially rise during the next two centuries," reports The Houston Chronicle.

"The research, appearing in the March issue of Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, is all the more remarkable coming from Emanuel, a highly visible leader in his field and long an ardent proponent of a link between global warming and much stronger hurricanes."

"The models are telling us something quite different from what nature seems to be telling us," said Emanuel, adding, "The results surprised me."

This bears testimony to the fact that we cannot accept the shrill claims of the alarmists that "the debate is over" on global warming, because to do so would hand control of our future over to bumbling, self-serving control freaks who have been proven wrong time after time.

How can we let technocrats impose sweeping control measures based on a "consensus" about the effects of global warming that isn’t necessarily correct? Those that propose drastic responses to a "crisis" that isn't even fully understood should be treated with extreme suspicion.

The admission that global warming has no effect on extreme weather patterns, in addition to last week's report confirming there has been no global temperature increase since 1998, spells disaster for the alarmists and current weather patterns are not doing them any favors either.

Shortly after China experienced its coldest winter in 100 years and

to continue, go to link... http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/041408_alarmism_discredited.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/09/2240680.htm?section=justin

Plan for enviro-friendly burials
By Leah MacLennan

Posted 1 hour 1 minute ago
Updated 44 minutes ago

An invention to make burials more environmentally friendly has been developed by a funeral director.

Kevin Hartley is a strong advocate of 'natural burial', or being put in the ground without a coffin.

He has come up with an invention to make burials more natural while still incorporating the elements of a traditional funeral.

The transporter looks like an ordinary high end casket, but just by pulling a few pins and switching a lever the body is lowered into the ground encased in nothing but a shroud.

Mr Hartley says the result is much more environmentally friendly than cremation or coffin burials.

"It [cremation] burns tonnes of fossil fuels, generates in Australia 10.4 million kilograms of co2 every year and it's completely unnecessary," he said. etc

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what's wrong with a bloody big lead sinker - and one last deep dive.

I heard someone asking - hey - if I'm gonna be buried in a vertical hole made by a post hole digger -
and it turns out to be a rainy day -
does that mean I'll end up a "stick in the mud" ?

Killer cornflakes!

Damn headlines!

Just about put me off my favourite brekky...

until I read the whole story.

Will 'killer cornflakes' be on our tables?
Rosemary Desmond | May 13, 2008 - 3:25PM

Climate change could lead to "killer cornflakes" with the cereal carrying the most potent liver toxin ever recorded, an environmental health conference has been told.

The effects of the toxins, known as mycotoxins, have been known since the Middle Ages, when rye bread contaminated with ergot fungus was a staple part of the European diet, environmental health researcher Lisa Bricknell from Central Queensland University (CQU) said.

"People started suffering mass hallucinations, manic depression, gangrene, abortions, reduced fertility and painful, convulsive death," Ms Bricknell told the 10th World Congress on Environmental Health in Brisbane today.

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Grain-growing areas of Australia, such as Queensland's Burnett region, could become unviable, and Australia may have to import more maize and maize-based food products to meet demand.

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"While killer cornflakes may not precisely be around the corner, we do have potential for increasing aflatoxin exposure.

"We need to investigate risk management for maize production and we need to undertake careful monitoring of food products coming into our country."

AAP

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/killer-cornflake-fears/2008/05/13/1210444414193.html

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Just caught the tail end of an SBS news story about the rapid melting of the North Pole.Also I think I heard that Polar Bears are on the endangered species list.WTF are we doing??????

North Pole Could Be Ice Free in 2008

You know when climate change is biting hard when instead of a vast expanse of snow the North Pole is a vast expanse of water. This year, for the first time, Arctic scientists are preparing for that possibility.

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Wysiwyg said:

Just caught the tail end of an SBS news story about the rapid melting of the North Pole.Also I think I heard that Polar Bears are on the endangered species list.WTF are we doing??????

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don't worry about it wys
it's all a plot by alarmists
let's get out in our hummers and warm things up a bit

2020hindsight said:

don't worry about it wys
it's all a plot by alarmists
let's get out in our hummers and warm things up a bit

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Now that's a morbit sense of humour, 2020. :

Yes wysiwyg.

Gaud, some of you fellas have the most extraudinary user names to remember to spell. Have to remember to copy and paste.

Anyway... I've seen a few satelite shots over the years showing how much it has retreated. One not so young Alaskan glacier tour guide reckons the glaciers have retreated much further in the last few years than he can remember. Some of the smaller ones have dissapeared.

I realise that relatively speaking the 1900's may have been the bottom of a cooler cycle and we are just entering a warmer natural cycle. But even if it's mostly naturaly driven, I worry a bit about how much man made influences could exaggerate that warming.

The effects of life in society since the fossil fuel fired industrial age began.With our electric lights and driving automobiles contributing to atmospheric changes.
Can the wheels of progress be stopped.Yes, what would it take.I think human d-evolution is set.Most people don`t really care about the future health of the planet.The cycle is --- born, school, job, car, money, sex, house, die. NEXT.
People focus their attention on absolute rubbish.

I'm guessing there's no need to be luddites about this - I'm sure there's a middle road that permits some development (damned site less that we have at the moment I concede) - being pragmatic - just get that CO2e down by a couple of percent per year - that's what the IPCC boys are proposing as a compromise.

Wysiwyg said:

Most people don`t really care about the future health of the planet.The cycle is --- born, school, job, car, money, sex, house, die. NEXT.
People focus their attention on absolute rubbish.

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Regardless of the AGW debate, this is unfortunately all too true.

Status, ultimately at the expense of our children.

wayneL said:

Regardless of the AGW debate, this is unfortunately all too true.

Status, ultimately at the expense of our children.

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The Burmese Junta could certainly sympathise with that last sentiment.....



AJ

Wysiwyg said:

The cycle is --- born, school, job, car, money, sex, house, die. NEXT.

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It's a real worry when you realises that most have done 75% of it before they're an adult. Doesn't leave anything to look forward to apart from a mortgage then death...

Smurf1976 said:

It's a real worry when you realises that most have done 75% of it before they're an adult. Doesn't leave anything to look forward to apart from a mortgage then death...

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Okay, if the comfort zone is being reached quicker these days (generally speaking) then that leaves a tremendous amount of time for these people to do something positive about the environment.Either on a personal level such as sorting household waste consciously and effectively e.g. paper, glass, aluminium, ferrous and non-ferrous metal and food scraps.

Or on a local level by maintaining a tidy neighbourhood, participating in (or even organising) clean up days.Educate others, pass the word around that water, energy, plants and animals are precious or show by example.

If anyone can think of other ways then fire away.I`m sure someone will wake up.

More rubbish.... when I read this utter, utter, rubbish I just shake my head. Unbelievable....

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23724412-2,00.html

The Ferret said:

More rubbish.... when I read this utter, utter, rubbish I just shake my head. Unbelievable....

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23724412-2,00.html

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That`s about as smart as introducing cane toads to eat scarab beetles in Nth. Queensland.
Before we do things we must think of the consequences of our actions.This is a consistent flaw in the mind of human and i`m no exception.It doesn`t seem to come naturally and has to be taught.(what are the consequences/effects)

The natural range of Cane Toads extends from the southern United States to tropical South America. They were deliberately introduced from Hawaii to Australia in 1935, to control scarab beetles that were pests of sugar cane.

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The Ferret said:

More rubbish.... when I read this utter, utter, rubbish I just shake my head. Unbelievable....

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23724412-2,00.html

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Spectacular own goal.

The quality of climate science proven well dodgy yet again.

2020hindsight said:

- I'm sure there's a middle road that permits some development (damned site less that we have at the moment I concede) -

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A balance can be struck!We can be more conscious about preserving life on this planet and live less destructive lifestyles.
There was a smarty who invented the internal combustion engine.Another must be getting close to showing up again with a renewable energy powered automobile that replaces these mass polluters (and i`m guilty too).Thing is, when we are young we don`t give a damn.

Governments with tax money could make a concerted effort to fast track technology, change now, make the transition to renewables, whatever it takes.

Agree .. complete tosh

Please tell me this bloke was not one of the scientists used by the IPCC`s model?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Flannery

The Future Eaters enjoyed strong sales and critical acclaim. .... Fellow activist David Suzuki praised Flannery's "powerful insight into our current destructive path."

In The Weather Makers: The History & Future Impact of Climate Change, Flannery outlines the science behind anthropogenic climate change. "With great scientific advances being made every month, this book is necessarily incomplete," Flannery writes, but "That should not, however, be used as an excuse for inaction. We know enough to act wisely."

Concepts outlined in the book include:

That a failure to act on climate change may eventually force the creation of a global carbon dictatorship, which he calls the "Earth Commission for Thermostatic Control", to regulate carbon use across all industries and nations - a level of governmental intrusion that Flannery describes as "very undesirable"[10]; and the establishment of "Geothermia" - a new city at the NSW-South Australia-Queensland border - to take advantage of the location's abundance of natural gas reserves and solar energy.

Flannery argues that such a city could be completely energy self-sufficient, and would be a model for future city development worldwide. Of the city project, Flannery told The Bulletin that "I know it's radical but we have no choice".

The book won international acclaim. Bill Bryson concluded that "It would be hard to imagine a better or more important book." The Weather Makers was honoured in 2006 as 'Book of the Year' at the New South Wales Premier's Literary Awards.[11]

Flannery's work in raising the profile of environmental issues was key to his being named Australian of the Year in 2007. Awarding the prize, Prime Minister John Howard said that the scientist "has encouraged Australians into new ways of thinking about our environmental history and future ecological challenges."[12]

That said, Howard – along with many others – remains unconvinced as to Flannery's proposed solutions. Flannery joined calls for the shutdown of conventional coal burning in Australia in the medium term, on which the country relies for most of its electricity. Flannery claims that conventional coal burning will lose its social license to operate, as has asbestos.[13]

Though Flannery has the ear of South Australian Premier Mike Rann in his role as a climate change advisor. Tim Flannery is a member of the Queensland Climate Change Council established by the Queensland Minister for Sustainability, Climate Change and Innovation Andrew McNamara.

In contrast to much of the environment movement, Flannery is also supportive of nuclear power.[14]

More recently, Flannery appears to have changed his view on nuclear power. In May 2007 he was reported to have told a business gathering in Sydney that while nuclear energy does have a role elsewhere in the world, Australia's abundance of renewable resources rule out the need for nuclear power in the near term. He does however feel that Australia should and will have to supply its uranium to those other countries that do not have access to renewables like Australia

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the man's a genius (imho) - even Suzuki "praised Flannery's "powerful insight into our current destructive path.""

my money's on Flannery - you blokes can bet on each other

2020hindsight said:

the man's a genius (imho) - even Suzuki "praised Flannery's "powerful insight into our current destructive path.""

my money's on Flannery - you blokes can bet on each other

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Flannery's work in raising the profile of environmental issues was key to his being named Australian of the Year in 2007. Awarding the prize, Prime Minister John Howard said that the scientist "has encouraged Australians into new ways of thinking about our environmental history and future ecological challenges."[12]

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Don`t have any issue with this at all....

but on the introduction of sulphur

"We need to be ready to start doing it in perhaps five years time if we fail to achieve what we're trying to achieve."

He conceded there were risks to global dimming via sulphur.

"The consequences of doing that are unknown."

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