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lioness said:
Paul,

I noticed your report states INP will do well in 2008. Do you mind doing an astroanalysis on that thread please.

I have followed your stuff and find it useful.

Many thanks.
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Hi lioness,

INP ... should be a very strong finisher in December 2008,
so watch for more details, on the INP thread ..... :)

happy days

paul

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WARNING: Astrostuff ahead .....

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Hi folks,

With regard to TIME CYCLES posted for individual stocks, some traders
have asked how to interpret Gann's astroanalysis ... and it's really quite
easy.

Markets can only move in 2 directions ... ie ... up or down ... yes???

When a positive time cycle comes into play, then we may expect
market sentiment towards a particular stock to be positive
and price will likely rally .....

..... likewise, when negative time cycles fall into place, then
we may espect market sentiment towards the stock to be
negative and the price will likely fall ..... too easy, eh???

Now, there's a PRICE axis on every chart and a TIME axis that is
rarely analyzed by most chartists ... even though by nature, it
is CONSTANT and therefore easier to analyze.

So, by using Gann's astroanalysis of the TIME axis, we can DOUBLE
the amount of relevant information coming out of any chart, but
unlike PRICE, the TIME axis can be forecast ahead, more easily ... :)

If we use astroanalysis to CONFIRM our regular TA, then we have
a technical indicator, that is INDEPENDENT of variable price data.

Astroanalysis of the markets was developed early last century, so
for truckloads of information, just google WD Gann and Sepharial.

A$40.oo ephemeris is used to determine, whether time cycles will
likely be positive or negative.

have a great weekend

paul

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Hi Paul

I wonder if you would care to do Astrostuff for Gold price, where is it heading in the 2 weeks and 3 -6 months from now. I have been accumulating gold for the last 2 months but has been put off adding to new position these past 2 weeks as it's climbing in a straight line. Will there be a chance of short term correction soon ?

Thank you.
 
Trader Paul said:
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WARNING: Astrostuff ahead .....

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Hi folks,

With regard to TIME CYCLES posted for individual stocks, some traders
have asked how to interpret Gann's astroanalysis ... and it's really quite
easy.

Markets can only move in 2 directions ... ie ... up or down ... yes???


paul



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no paul - disagree - been trading fer years and definately there are three dirrections - up, down and sideways

most traders have entries and stops based on these three dirrections
 
treefrog said:
no paul - disagree - been trading fer years and definately there are three dirrections - up, down and sideways

most traders have entries and stops based on these three dirrections
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Hi treefrog,

..... sideways is NOT MOVING ... therefore, there's "definately" only 2 ways or "dirrections"
a market will MOVE and they are UP or DOWN ... !~!

have a great weekend

paul

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Trader Paul said:
TIME never stops, so if a stock is (apparently) moving sideways, it's PRICE
that has STOPPED MOVING, treefrog ... :)

have a great weekend

paul

:)

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yes, that was a bit obscure of me, I thought that time didn't stop was a given

I also assumed that as this site is about stocks that it was appropriate to point out there are three ways they can be profitably traded

long (instument moves up with time)
sideways (instrument moves sideways with time - ie it stays nominally at the same level as time passes)
short (instument moves down with time)

so, does gann's astro system include a method for actively and profitably trading sideways or just if they move up and perhaps down

here's an example of the terminology used on this planet

Jordan Times
Tuesday, October 3, 2006

Amman bourse trading sideways in bid to establish new base

and to quote from Real World Tales of Famous Investment Advisors, Techniques, and Risk"At the same trading conference I mentioned above, Alex Elder also had a few words to say about Gann. Apparently, Elder met with Gann's son, who said that his father had been unable to support his family by trading. That's worth saying again: according to his son, Gann was unable to support his family by trading! Instead, Gann earned his living by writing and selling instructional courses. When Gann died in the 1950's, his estate, including his house, was valued at slightly over $100,000. In today's money, that wouldn't be so bad, but remember this guy was supposed to be a magical trader, not just a successful newsletter writer, and $100,000 ain't $50,000,000. Draw your own conclusions."

perhaps Gann didn't make any money from trading astro stuff because he also found it difficult to comprehend that money can be made and lost from instuments moving sideways
 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, ... we have heard it all before, treefrog .. and that is
simply what that piece was ... just hearsay ... NO documentary evidence
to back it up, whatsoever ... !~!

Those who are prepared to do the study and APPLY the methods have
left all that other tripe behind, letting the astrotrading tools speak for
themselves.

happy days

paul

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Hi folks,

Thanks for your questions on astroanalysis:

1) Do you read annual reports, crunch numbers, predict revenue streams?

Reports ... only oilers and "situation stocks", that are currently involved
in events likely to make the markets move ... particularly, if the
event is unfolding with our pre-determined time cycles.
Oilers present such situations, every time a new well goes down.

Numbers ... Gann's astroanalysis is all about numbers, most of them
never found in company reports ... reports, which are
dealing mostly with historical data.

Revenue ... nope ... and who cares? Price of any stock is only a
reflection of market sentiment, at that time ... for traders,
foreknowledge of MARKET SENTIMENT in any stock is far
more important, than any predicted revenues .....

.....so, predicting revenues is a waste of valuable resources,
as it does not deal with the KNOWN FACTS, that address
market sentiment and therefore price.

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2) Do you currently own any OMI? I see you are an avid fan of the stock.

No ... not a fan really ... OMI is just another stock to be analyzed and
right now it is looking weaker than expected ... will just monitor it, until
our TA and time cycles confirm each other for an entry.

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3) Does a 'Solar eclipse' Have any meaning connected to trading shares?

Only for stocks, triggered by that event ... for instance on 07022008,
the next eclipse should be positive for stocks, like:

Before eclipse ... 04-06022008: AIO - CAV - CSW - MUN

Eclipse 07022008: CAP

After eclipse ... 08022008: ARQ and CAQ

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4) Do you know when the next Solar Eclipse will be seen in NZ?


" Partial Solar Eclipse, 7th February 2008
Submitted: Tuesday, 27th November 2007 by Mike Salway

The Partial Solar Eclipse on February 7th 2008 will be visible from parts of South-Eastern
Australia and all of New Zealand. The Annular Solar Eclipse is visible only in Antartica.
It will not be visible at all for the rest of Australia or the world."

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/index.php?id=63,448,0,0,1,0

happy days

paul

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Trader Paul said:
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Hi folks,

XAO/XJO astroanalysis ... both use the same time cycles
and the critical dates for 2008 should be, as follows:

07012008 ... minor and positive

14012008 ... significant and positive

18-21012008 ... minor and positive news

1801-08022008 ... an underlying negative cycle, for
hitechs and biotechs, particularly???

06-08022008 ... 3 cycles to bring positive news/moves.

03-06032008 ... news should trigger a STRONG move

07032008 ... negative spotlight on XJO

25-26032008 ... 2 cycles with negative news

04-07042008 ... positive spotlight on XJO ... :)

11042008 ... positive news driving now

14042008 ... difficult cycle here

21042008 ... positive cycle ... forex-driven ???

25042008 ... difficult news expected = flat trading???

More later .....

happy days

paul

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Amazing prediction on 2007 Paul. So with 2008, do you reckon XJO will still be in down trend until early Feb ? (
06-08022008 ... 3 cycles to bring positive news/moves.) or a bounce is already under way now ( 14012008 ... significant and positive)
?? If the second scenario, it sure doesn't look like it now.
 
josjes said:
Amazing prediction on 2007 Paul. So with 2008, do you reckon XJO will still be in down trend until early Feb ? (
06-08022008 ... 3 cycles to bring positive news/moves.) or a bounce is already under way now ( 14012008 ... significant and positive)
?? If the second scenario, it sure doesn't look like it now.
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Hi josjes,

.... after the strong session in USA on 14012008, it is a bit surprising
that XJO could not hold onto its early gains, today.

From next week we could easily see XJO bounce along on its lows,
until the next series of positive cycles, around 06-08022008 ... :)

have a great week ahead

paul

:)

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hhmm doesn't sound encouraging at all. So this week looks bleak ehh no positive aura at all ?? 06-08 Feb is the projected turning point, do you see XJO breaking new high from this point ?
 
josjes said:
hhmm doesn't sound encouraging at all. So this week looks bleak ehh no positive aura at all ?? 06-08 Feb is the projected turning point, do you see XJO breaking new high from this point ?
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Hi josjes,

Of course for index traders, there will be intraday trading opportunities,
in both directions and these are related to the fast-moving astroentities.

From an EOD perspective, it would not be surprising to see a significant low
made around 04-05022008, immediately before the postive cycles expected
around 06-082008 ... such price action is a very common occurrence ... :)

... and markets often make turns about this date, as it is the halfway point,
between the December solistice and March equinox, each year.

Also watch for doji price action for XJO, on 04-05022008 ... such
action is very common, in the days before big news and with that
price action, it is very easy for traders to be whipsawed out of
their positions, only to end the day back where the market started
for the day.

..... COINCIDENTALLY, those positive time cycles will also come out
to play, just as the next interest rate decison is made ..... so overall,
the market will likely remain flat-to-down, until then.

With regard to a price target from there, it would be more conservative
to first, be alert for breaks of previous highs, at 6385, 6685, 6785 and
6850, before getting excited about making new record highs.

have a great day

paul

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yogi-in-oz said:
Posted 21 May 2007:

Hi folks,

..... this is siimply posted to remind traders using Gann's
astrostuff, that 09-10122007 will likely be important to
watch for a significant swing point (low???) ... nothing more.

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... if you are to use a GEOCENTRIC ephemeris, then
Pluto and Jupiter will be conjunct on 09-10122007 at
28 degrees Sagittarius and less than 2 degrees from
Galactic Centre.

(For those into Bible Astrology ... Galactic Centre has
been linked to the lives of the Pope's ... just take a
look at when the last Pope was taken to hospital ...
... Mar's was transiting Galactic Centre ... !~!)

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Let's just clarify the difference between Gann's astrostuff
and personal astrology that we all see in the newspapers,
as they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT approaches.

Firstly, the rubbish that you read in newspapers only
started to appear at the depths of the depression in 1931,
to help sell newspapers ... and it is still used most effectively
for that same purpose ... but, it is made up TOTALLY of
MAN-MADE interpretations ... and who would place
creedence in ANY man's views ... ???

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Gann's astrostuff is based on vcery accurate & God-given,
planetary movements, that have been in force MILLIONS
of years ... in reallity, the planets of our solar system are
really a cosmic clock, that NO MAN can CHANGE ... !~!

In proper financial astrology, there's NO MAN-MADE
interpretations involved ... instead, we only use VERY
SIMPLE mathematics and geometry, from the Pythagorean
schools .... all stuff that is evident in the Bible, too ... and
for more info, read Pythagoras' "Music of the Spheres."


In fact, the ONLY book, where Gann wrote about his
astrotools is TTTTA and in it, he used more than 150
Bible quotes ... and he did not put them there for NO
reason .... :)

Dan Brown, eat your heart out ... Sepharial and Gann
beat you to the punch, but only by about 80 years ... :)

For those interested in the links to the Bible, you may
also wish to read as much of Sepharial's work as you
can muster, particularly Sepharial's books on Gann's
own reading list, like "Cosmic Symbolism" for example.

"Bible Astrology" by Lyman Stowe is also another
interesting read, as well ... :)

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Just want to share Gann's Mechanical Stuff .....
...... as a backup our astrotools:

(To keep the calculations ahead simple, we employ a
factor of +/- 1 day, at the target dates. It IS possible
to be more accurate, but it requires considerably
more complex calculations and that effort is unlikely
to be substantially rewarded. )

Okay ... so, let's put the bulk of the planetary stuff aside
and just consider something, we all know as accepted
fact ... the APPARENT movement of our Sun or Earth's
360 degree orbit around the Sun, in 365.25 days.

XJO ... 13 March 2003 = 2693 and XJO market low

XJO ... 10 May 2005 = pullback low

XJO ... 09 May 2006 = high in 1H 2006 = 5406 and
1154 days from 13032003 low. If we project
a 50% (577 days) Gann time factor, from
09052006, ahead ... 1154 +577 = 1732
13032003 + 1732 days = 09-10122007 and
exactly the time of the Jupiter/Pluto cojunction !~!


XJO ... 10 November 2006 = Sun is 180 degree or
DIRECTLY OPPOSITE to position, on 09 May 2006
and market breaks above 5406, after a pullback
over the past 6 months.

XJO ... 09 May 2007 = 6382 ... so far the market high
for 2007 and 1518 days out from 13032003 low.

6382 being just 4 points shy of 1000 points beyond
another milestone, that we also forecast, using
Gann's work ... XJO = 5386

XJO 5386 was reached on 10052006 (surprise !~!)
... high 5406 and closed at 5352.

5386 was DOUBLE the 13032003 low ... and
it took another 180 degrees movent of our Sun,
before the market would recover and break above
that critical level ... !~!

So, what now Gannsters ... ???

If we consider the nearby astrostuff for XJO, we
will likely see our market, trade strongly especially
on 06-07 June 2007 ... testing the highs ???

08 June 2007 ... expecting a significant negative
cycle to hit XJO .....

... and 180 solar days later, a positive cycle is
expected for XJO, right when our significant astro
-event comes into play ... 09-10 December 2007 !~!

Now, not only do we have Gann's astrotools pointing to
that event, we also have some simple mechanical tools
pointing to that time-frame, as well ..... that's two
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT approaches in our analysis !~!

If the expected rally, in early June fails to make any
significant gains, then the uncertainty ahead of the
coming Aussie elections may be enough to drive the
markets down ... having said that, we fully expect
mid-October 2007 to produce a rally, just as we
had in February 2007, though it may be short-lived,
with another negative cycle coming in, at the end
of October 2007.

happy days

paul

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Hi folks,

Sometimes with these slower-moving cycles, it takes some time to
really appreciate the true significance those projected swings dates.

For instance, as posted above on 21052007 (and before), it was evident
that 09-10122007 was always going to be a huge marker on the trading
calendar ... !~!

As we look at the XJO chart attached, we can now easily see the
significance of that Jupiter/Pluto conjunction ... marked by the
dotted blue vertical line .....

..... and it is not all over just yet, as we have Pluto on the final degree
of Sagittarius and Venus coming along to make another conjunction,
with Pluto ... around 23-24012008 ... !~!

So, it would not be surprising to see some more fallout with regard
to the money markets, this week ... subprime issues, etc

..... and to put a location on it ..... we will be alert for news and
watching around four longitudes ..... 91 degrees west mid-USA and
South America, as well as 1 degree west, 89 degrees east and
179 degrees east.

XJO chart attached

have a great day

paul

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Trader Paul said:
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Hi folks,

Sometimes with these slower-moving cycles, it takes some time to
really appreciate the true significance those projected swings dates.

For instance, as posted above on 21052007 (and before), it was evident
that 09-10122007 was always going to be a huge marker on the trading
calendar ... !~!

As we look at the XJO chart attached, we can now easily see the
significance of that Jupiter/Pluto conjunction ... marked by the
dotted blue vertical line .....

..... and it is not all over just yet, as we have Pluto on the final degree
of Sagittarius and Venus coming along to make another conjunction,
with Pluto ... around 23-24012008 ... !~!

So, it would not be surprising to see some more fallout with regard
to the money markets, this week ... subprime issues, etc

..... and to put a location on it ..... we will be alert for news and
watching around four longitudes ..... 91 degrees west mid-USA and
South America, as well as 1 degree west, 89 degrees east and
179 degrees east.

XJO chart attached

have a great day

paul

:)

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Hi Paul, where is that location you refer to ? I am all curious. Since we have already experience significant crash, I was wondering if that turning point on 23-24Jan might be the pivotal point for a bounce ? It's been a harrowing month so far, just trying to get into some optimistic mood here.
I guess no luck, have to sit it out until early Feb ?? :eek:
 
Originally Posted by yogi-in-oz

Posted 21 May 2007:

"... and who would place
creedence in ANY man's views ... ???"

or Gann's for that matter
 
josjes said:
Hi Paul, where is that location you refer to ? I am all curious. Since we have already experience significant crash, I was wondering if that turning point on 23-24Jan might be the pivotal point for a bounce ? It's been a harrowing month so far, just trying to get into some optimistic mood here.
I guess no luck, have to sit it out until early Feb ?? :eek:
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Hi josjes,

... we don't see 23-24 Jan 2008 as a turning point, instead just
reinforcement of the bad news in the credit markets ... there may
well be a pause at that time, with markets standing still, until they
digest any new developments ..... and with Pluto involved here,
those taking long positions in the markets will need to be
cautious, as the news is unlikely to be good !~!

have a great day

paul

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