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Paul , any idea of a service that caters for Australian stocks :
incorporation dates : first trade dates : original birthname
It would be helpful to obtain accurate imfo . using NAB as an example we can see the incorporation date 6231893 but I would like to refine this further using hourly co ordinates . the ascendant for 6231893 12.00pm 00 comes in at 0 deg aries 48 mins . 1440 mins in a daily cycle and 4 mins is equal to 1 degree . usually I calculate the ascendant at 12.00pm 00 mins but it would be more helpful if I could obtain a more accurate natal reading .
if you could help me with this please send me a private email as 7792 is out of action .

Kind Regards Grant
 
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Hi Grant,

First trade dates are available on ASX website, under "company details"
and accurate float times are recorded in the official listing notice, posted
as an individual company announcement ..... usually a couple of days,
BEFORE listing .....

... but the rest is much more difficult to access ... and for our trading
purposes, not really necessary, either ... using incorporation dates and
times is waaaay too time-consuming and their accuracy is ALWAYS
questionable ..... it's always better to use the KISS principle !~!

Using cabalistic evaluation of the company name may also be helpful for
some traders, BUT then there is some subjective calls, with regard to
various methodologies and again, it can soak up a lot of TIME.

have a great weekend

paul

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Hey Paul

I noticed on hc that you had looked at the cycles (do you mean transits ??) for EKA. I have cast a chart (using a midday asc......it has to be between 9 and 5..) for EKA based on the day they listed with the ASX. Is this what you take it from?

Looking at it....it has a sun/pluto conjunct in sag, straddling the GC...at 24 and 29 respectively...interesting....should be positive with jupiter going through until late december I would have thought.

I look at your analysis on hc....

2-5 Nov...2 pos cycles....I am assuming this is the yearly transit of the sun over eka's jupiter at 11 scorpio?

Then I can't see anything too negative in the transits on the 4th and 12th though. You are using some other technique?

On the 23rd through to 26th November, jupiter conjuncts eka's pluto and really from that time through till around the 20th December....is transitting the eka jupiter/pluto conjunct on GC. I see this as pretty significant.....with mercury and the sun transiting 24 - 29 sag around 17th - 22nd....

I have no understanding of Gann...but just looking at transits...progressions not too significant as it is only 2 years since listing...

Fascinating that eka has these strong solar connections with pluto and the gc I must say!

Any feedback most appreciated!

Eva
 
Evangeline said:
I noticed on hc that you had looked at the cycles (do you mean transits ??) for EKA. I have cast a chart (using a midday asc......it has to be between 9 and 5..) for EKA based on the day they listed with the ASX. Is this what you take it from?

Looking at it....it has a sun/pluto conjunct in sag, straddling the GC...at 24 and 29 respectively...interesting....should be positive with jupiter going through until late december I would have thought.

2-5 Nov...2 pos cycles....I am assuming this is the yearly transit of the sun over eka's jupiter at 11 scorpio?

Then I can't see anything too negative in the transits on the 4th and 12th though. You are using some other technique?

On the 23rd through to 26th November, jupiter conjuncts eka's pluto and really from that time through till around the 20th December....is transitting the eka jupiter/pluto conjunct on GC. I see this as pretty significant.....with mercury and the sun transiting 24 - 29 sag around 17th - 22nd....

I have no understanding of Gann...but just looking at transits...progressions not too significant as it is only 2 years since listing...

Fascinating that eka has these strong solar connections with pluto and the gc I must say!

Any feedback most appreciated!

Eva
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Hi Evangeline,

EKA, for example, had an announcement on 19122005
"Admission to Official List", to say it would be listed:

1pm EDST on Monday 21st December 2005 (summer solstice)

http://sa.iguana2.com/cache/d949594448ac8b51b4d980a99ab0499e/ASX-EKA-309379.pdf

..... BUT, transits are only a small part of Gann's astrostuff !~!

For the rest, just google Gann, Johndro and Sepharial ... and you will find
a mine (Pluto), full of valuable information, helping you bring the geometry
and mathematics of God's cosmic clock, into perspective for trading
purposes.

have a great weekend

paul

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Hi Paul

I noticed your analysis of EKA on hc the other day.....

I cast a chart for eka based on it listing date....and noticed that the sun and pluto...at 29 and 24 degrees of sag respectively.....straddle the GC and are being transitted by pluto and upcoming jupiter.....feel this must be promising. Any thoughts? I gather that your forecast of positive news from 2-5 Nov must be related to the sun's yearly transit of eka jupiter in scorpio at 11?

Also checked out adi's chart...much older company.....with neptune (ruling oil and gas) at 20 sag! Jupiter is now at 20 sag......and jupiter is the trad ruler of pisces and hence also of oil and gas (indeed is referred to as a giant gas-body)...I am hoping that things auger well for the jvp with these jupiter transits.....

I think I will now have a look at AUT..

cheers
EVA
 
Thanks Paul , accuracy of imformation is difficult to acquire although I know there is a guy in the states called Munkasey who has a timeline of accurate natal and incorporation dates somettimes down to the hour at a cost . locating this detail of imformation for Australian stocks is quite another story .
 
gazelle said:
Thanks Paul , accuracy of imformation is difficult to acquire although I know there is a guy in the states called Munkasey who has a timeline of accurate natal and incorporation dates somettimes down to the hour at a cost . locating this detail of imformation for Australian stocks is quite another story .
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Hi Gazelle,

Actually met Michael personally in London, but his work has NOTHING
to offer Aussie traders, unfortunately ... :)

have a great day

paul

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Hi Paul

How do you find those announcements which give you the actual time of listing like that one for eka

I have been trying to find them to no avail....am particularly interested atm in australian renewable fuels.....do you happen to know what time they were listed?

Thanks
Eva
 
The first trade time for ARW was 1PM (AEST), 5 May 2005.

With all ASX listed first trade charts I personally would put the birth place as Sydney.

Cheers
John
 
Evangeline said:
Hi Paul

How do you find those announcements which give you the actual time of listing like that one for eka

I have been trying to find them to no avail....am particularly interested atm in australian renewable fuels.....do you happen to know what time they were listed?

Thanks
Eva
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Hi Evangaline,

.... just change the company code in the link below, to
retrieve the desired listing(date only, no time), from ASX:

http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/...mpanyName=&principalActivity=&industryGroup=0

... or for both, time and date of listing, just go to:

http://stocknessmonster.com

Punch in ARW for news:

http://stocknessmonster.com/news-history?S=ARW&E=ASX&Year=2005

.....and go back to the second post:

"Admission to Official List "

http://sa.iguana2.com/cache/85bf53aa59f4da148357a4947a0c4e35/ASX-ARW-289309.pdf

..... and repeat the process for any other stock codes ..... :)

have a great day

paul

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Yogi I am trying to establish the Ascendant for St George Bank but need to tighten things up a bit . The earliest registration date is 171992 with locality Kogarah NSW . Those details are fine , the only missing componet is the time of registration , I could round this off to 12.00pm 00 hr but as the earth moves 1 deg every 4 mins the end result could be out considerably .
Accuracy of data is probably quite hard to obtain so I have used 10.00 as an ( arbitary figure ) this works out to 0 deg Vi 41 mins .

Any advice is appreciated .
 

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Hi Paul et al

Thanks for the info.....been looking again at the oz chart for federation....it has the sag stellium in 8th house with jupiter at 25 degrees sag (same as you!) conjunct mercury at 27 sag.....

It occurred to me it would be a good time to invest (8th house) in what you believe in (mercury/jupiter in sag)

Another thing....I discovered that ARW was incorporated (as distinct from listed on asx) at an earlier date....giving it a chiron/mars conjunct in sag on the galactic centre....kind of an 'environmental warrior' according to Barbara Hand Clow's interpretation of Mars/Chiron....and the fact it is on the GC would only heighten that....

Anyway I have taken a punt on ARW....hoping that they will get their new plant off the ground in new mexico where biodiesel is mandated and tallow is a prohibited export - protecting it from chinese demand pushing up the price. Bill Richardson...the governor of nm and presidental candidate for the democrats...is right behind the new biodiesel plant....interesting...

Any thoughts Paul?
 
yogi-in-oz said:
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Posted 21 May 2007:

Gann's astrostuff is based on very accurate & God-given,
planetary movements, that have been in force MILLIONS
of years ... in reallity, the planets of our solar system are
really a cosmic clock, that NO MAN can CHANGE ... !~!

In proper financial astrology, there's NO MAN-MADE
interpretations involved ... instead, we only use VERY
SIMPLE mathematics and geometry, from the Pythagorean
schools .... all stuff that is evident in the Bible, too ... and
for more info, read Pythagoras' "Music of the Spheres."

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Just want to share Gann's Mechanical Stuff .....
...... as a backup our astrotools:

(To keep the calculations ahead simple, we employ a
factor of +/- 1 day, at the target dates. It IS possible
to be more accurate, but it requires considerably
more complex calculations and that effort is unlikely
to be substantially rewarded. )

Okay ... so, let's put the bulk of the planetary stuff aside
and just consider something, we all know as accepted
fact ... the APPARENT movement of our Sun or Earth's
360 degree orbit around the Sun, in 365.25 days.

XJO ... 13 March 2003 = 2693 and XJO market low

XJO ... 10 May 2005 = pullback low

XJO ... 09 May 2006 = high in 1H 2006 = 5406 and
1154 days from 13032003 low. If we project
a 50% (577 days) Gann time factor, from
09052006, ahead ... 1154 +577 = 1732
13032003 + 1732 days = 09-10122007 and
exactly the time of the Jupiter/Pluto cojunction !~!


XJO ... 10 November 2006 = Sun is 180 degree or
DIRECTLY OPPOSITE to position, on 09 May 2006
and market breaks above 5406, after a pullback
over the past 6 months.

XJO ... 09 May 2007 = 6382 ... so far the market high
for 2007 and 1518 days out from 13032003 low.

6382 being just 4 points shy of 1000 points beyond
another milestone, that we also forecast, using
Gann's work ... XJO = 5386

XJO 5386 was reached on 10052006 (surprise !~!)
... high 5406 and closed at 5352.

5386 was DOUBLE the 13032003 low ... and
it took another 180 degrees movent of our Sun,
before the market would recover and break above
that critical level ... !~!

So, what now Gannsters ... ???

If we consider the nearby astrostuff for XJO, we
will likely see our market, trade strongly especially
on 06-07 June 2007 ... testing the highs ???

08 June 2007 ... expecting a significant negative
cycle to hit XJO .....

... and 180 solar days later, a time cycle is
expected for XJO, right when our significant astro
-event comes into play ... 09-10 December 2007 !~!

Now, not only do we have Gann's astrotools pointing to
that event, we also have some simple mechanical tools
pointing to that time-frame, as well ..... that's two
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT approaches in our analysis !~!

If the expected rally, in early June fails to make any
significant gains, then the uncertainty ahead of the
coming Aussie elections may be enough to drive the
markets down ... having said that, we fully expect
mid-October 2007 to produce a rally, just as we
had in February 2007, though it may be short-lived,
with another negative cycle coming in, at the end
of October 2007.


happy days

paul

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Hi folks,

.... so, it's history now ... how the markets fell like a stone from the
11122007 high, downwards until 18122007 ... losing 580 points along
the way, including the biggest one day loss for XJO in 2007, on 17122007 !~!

So, the outcome with regard to December market timing was good,
especially as the analysis above was posted, way back, on 21 May 2007 !~!

Happy New Year

paul

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Hi folks,

As requested, here's our brief astroanalysis of 2008 ..... :)

..... see pdf file, below ... "Looking into 2008 ... "

happy new year

paul

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Hi folks,

XAO/XJO astroanalysis ... both use the same time cycles
and the critical dates for 2008 should be, as follows:

07012008 ... minor and positive

14012008 ... significant and positive

18-21012008 ... minor and positive news

1801-08022008 ... an underlying negative cycle, for
hitechs and biotechs, particularly???

06-08022008 ... 3 cycles to bring positive news/moves.

03-06032008 ... news should trigger a STRONG move

07032008 ... negative spotlight on XJO

25-26032008 ... 2 cycles with negative news

04-07042008 ... positive spotlight on XJO ... :)

11042008 ... positive news driving now

14042008 ... difficult cycle here

21042008 ... positive cycle ... forex-driven ???

25042008 ... difficult news expected = flat trading???

More later .....

happy days

paul

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Hi Paul,

I must admit that i am scepticle of your techniques (i'm scepticle of most things), however, i am interested and would like to see it put to the test.

Would you be willing to select your ten best stocks for 2008, along with Astro reasoning so we can evaluate this technique at the end of 2008.

I think it would be an interesting experiment and maybe folks like myself who know nothing about your techniques could learn from this trial. If possible could we have a price update on the first day of each month?

I see your posts regularly but i would like something solid to gauge it by.

Looking forward to your 10 stocks and reasoning.

JW
 
Trader Paul said:
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Hi folks,

XAO/XJO astroanalysis ... both use the same time cycles
and the critical dates for 2008 should be, as follows:

07012008 ... minor and positive

14012008 ... significant and positive

18-21012008 ... minor and positive news

1801-08022008 ... an underlying negative cycle, for
hitechs and biotechs, particularly???

06-08022008 ... 3 cycles to bring positive news/moves.

03-06032008 ... news should trigger a STRONG move

07032008 ... negative spotlight on XJO

25-26032008 ... 2 cycles with negative news

04-07042008 ... positive spotlight on XJO ... :)

11042008 ... positive news driving now

14042008 ... difficult cycle here

21042008 ... positive cycle ... forex-driven ???

25042008 ... difficult news expected = flat trading???

More later .....

happy days

paul

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Paul,

I noticed your report states INP will do well in 2008. Do you mind doing an astroanalysis on that thread please.

I have followed your stuff and find it useful.

Many thanks.
 
JeSSica WaBBit said:
Hi Paul,

I must admit that i am scepticle of your techniques (i'm scepticle of most things), however, i am interested and would like to see it put to the test.

Would you be willing to select your ten best stocks for 2008, along with Astro reasoning so we can evaluate this technique at the end of 2008.

I think it would be an interesting experiment and maybe folks like myself who know nothing about your techniques could learn from this trial. If possible could we have a price update on the first day of each month?

I see your posts regularly but i would like something solid to gauge it by.

Looking forward to your 10 stocks and reasoning.

JW
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Hi JW,

Due to time constraints on this end, it is not possible to do as
you have suggested ... however, some astroanalysis for many
companies, has already been posted, at:

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/blog.php?u=9002

Please feel free to follow them up, at your own convenience.

Will continue to post others, as they come to hand and should
finish the year, with the time cycles posted for many more than
you have requested, anyway ... :)

happy trading

paul

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