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brerwallabi said:The lowest end-of-week LME zinc inventory levels in the past 15 years is this week’s 102,975 tonnes. In the past 8 weeks the average weekly drawdown on zinc inventories has been about 7,500 tonnes. If that rate is maintained LME zinc inventories will be exhausted in 14 weeks.
In the current TC/RC negotiations analysts consider that there is potential for the treatment charge to double from USD128/t to near USD250/t (of concentrate), but the price participation basis could increase from USD1,400/t (Zn) to within the range USD2,500/t to USD3,400/t. it is early in the negotiations, there is a concentrate shortage, demand for metal is strong and
stockpiles are decreasing. These negotiations are likely to be extended, not short.
Holding on to PEM and KZL, took part profits CBH.
Its never been so good.
MSmichael_selway said:Dude you have to keep an eye "on warrant", so you know if the tide changes
http://www.basemetals.com/stocks.aspx
Btw do you know what was the lowest LME zinc inventories ever?
thx
MS
rederob said:MS
Brother wallaby has made important points and we should heed them.
We really need next week to look for "cancellations" as there is enough in cancelled warrants to sustain drawdowns to 85k tonnes at moment.
Next week will see zinc's 100k headline figure breached, and its psychological impact will be huge.
As for lowest ever zinc inventory, go back to scratch (1991) as there is nothing within recent times showing such tightness.
Just as copper went into orbit before falling from the sky in May, we are seeing zinc on a similar trajectory now.
nizar said:copper stocks reached ~115ktonnes when the price was us$4.07 (intraday) in May. At the beginning of the year they were sitting on about 80ktonnes. So from January to May, the stocks rose sharply as did the price. Copper, at least at the time was trading not on fundamentals but on speculation from traders and hedge funds.
with zinc, its a whole different ball game. Not sharp increases, but slow and steady, as the price rise coincides with the drop in stocks. But u know what they say, slow and steady wins the race. Remember daily consumption is 29-35ktonnes per day.
that said, i wouldnt be suprised if some hedge funds were accumulating zinc from a while ago and they will dump when it hits $2+. But this impact will be unnoticed looking at the longer term picture. What do u think about this rederob? a probable situation that hedge funds are accumulating now to dump later? surely it cant just be smelters doing all the buying? and that would also explain why we are having larger drawdown rates of zinc now compared to say, a few months ago.
Very true brother wallaby.brerwallabi said:From what I read far from pushing prices above their fundamental level, hedge funds have been "shorting" copper all through 2006, leaving themselves with a alarming overhang that will have to be covered at some point by buying the stuff.
Nizar are you suggesting speculative purchases of zinc by hedge funds has been happening, if it is the case the hyper growth of China is not going to stop and the demand for zinc is such that any "dumping" will soon be absorbed in the scramble for the stuff.
300 hundred million Chinese peasants are heading for towns the demand will not cease, scarcity value will raise the price of zinc to beyond US$2lb
brerwallabi said:From what I read far from pushing prices above their fundamental level, hedge funds have been "shorting" copper all through 2006, leaving themselves with a alarming overhang that will have to be covered at some point by buying the stuff.
Nizar are you suggesting speculative purchases of zinc by hedge funds has been happening, if it is the case the hyper growth of China is not going to stop and the demand for zinc is such that any "dumping" will soon be absorbed in the scramble for the stuff.
300 hundred million Chinese peasants are heading for towns the demand will not cease, scarcity value will raise the price of zinc to beyond US$2lb
nizar said:hedge funds were long copper for a long time, then in May, just when the masses were entering, they went short, and it collapsed.
if hedge funds were "shorting" copper all through 2006, then tell me why did the price almost double in those 5 months?
x2rider said:well Pacer it is finally there
Up 3% over night and has broken through the $2.00 barrier . Don't really know where it goes from here but the inventories are still dropping so I suppose it's up
A pity you can't trade the metal directly
Cheers martin
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