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YML - Yilgarn Mining

Another quick q re the oppies-how long does it take to convert them to heads.Next question anyone lend me the money to do it:D


When ya find out let me know cos i picked up a ****load of them yesterday morning for 0.195...oh happy days

Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
 
I'm actually not sure about this, you'd think that it would be insane that everytime someone converted options the company had to release an ASX statement on it,

But then again this statement was re 15k options being converted so who knows,

Anyone with more knowledge care to shed light on this?

Yes an Appendix 3B needs to be issued every time there is a change in the company's securities. What'll you see closer to expiry time is a daily or couple-of-daily summary with the total options converted, rather than when every individual converts. Cumbersome for the poor old company secretary, but then it is money coming into the coffers!
 
As a comparison to Yml on the 20-12 2005 MMX gave a JORC compliant probable ore reserves of 8.5 million tons@63% FE and the MMX share price was 43 cents, yesterday they closed at $3.85.
At the moment Yml only have a mineralisation estimate of 30 million tons and I know we are waiting for a Jorc compliant report
MMX are two years ahead of YML ,but does anybody know if the estimate YML have would be good enough to finally give YML a decent resource

Will look forward to any comments on what could be in the pipeline for the YML supporters:)
 
Again moving up today. Now at 57c

I would not be surprised if this moves into 60s today. There is strong buying support, and I think a few people have inside information of the Carr-Boyd results, which are due very very soon.
 
YML has broken 60 cents... up 11% for the day, 29% for the week.

A question - can the ASX issue another speeding ticket so close to the last one even after YML has given a response?
 
Off memory, there have been a few occasions (in particular @ 50 cents? ,585 cents and 62 cents) where the high price is always actioned by a crossed trade on behalf of brokers actions. Interestingly, I can only speculate that certain brokers must be sucking in certain sophisticated share holders.Tres bein.:2twocents
BTW someone metioned the share is ready to break the 60 cent mould, I apologise to that trader, I laughed at you! Apologies....spare me!
 
Just a reminder on YML's fundamentla analysis, I am happy to have people poke any holes they like in my research but I think even the most sceptical would have to agree YML is seriously undervalued,


YML Fundamental Analysis

Mkt Structure
Shares
60m + 20m 25c 30/6/07 options
Fully Diluted Mkt Cap
@20c = $12m
@30c = $24m
@40c = $32m Current
@50c = $40m
@$1 = $80m Target

Cash

$4.5m + $5m if options are exercised

Projects
1. Rose Dam
Used this Gold project to generate $6.6m in cash, good cash cow and shows management knows how to get a project going

2. Irwin Hills JV YML-40% MRE-60%, Nickel, In W.A.
JORC 20Mt@ 1%Ni (Nickel) + 0.12%Co (Colbat)
High levels of Chloride so having trouble getting MRE to agree to Toll Treatment at its Murrin-Murrin Plant, although its Laterite Nickel its not that bad as MRE is the Laterite King!
MRE stated in their last Qtrly that "Preliminary mining studies are underway to determine the viability of direct trucking of ore to Murrin Murrin plant"

The cobalt upgrade pilot scale testwork is proceeding and will be reported upon once results are to hand


3. Carr-Boyd YML earning 51% from TIR (Now part of CSM Cons-Min) can earn up to 90%
JORC 600Kt's@ 1.4%Ni + 0.5%Cu all within 100m of the surface so open pittable!
Using an EV of $5 lb Nickel and $2 lb Cu this first pass JORC gives the deposit an In Ground Value of over $150m

The Company expects to receive the results of this Study by early May

4. Marillana 100% interest, Iron Ore, In W.A. 2kms from BHP’s Brockman Deposit 225Mt@ 60% Fe This project is the SPEC KILLER! Its an Iron Ore tenement 2kms west of the Brockman Deposit (225Mt@ 60% Fe) Its old Hamersley Ground who outline a STRIKE OF 10KM's! Grading an avg 60% Fe! Width is probably 350m avg and thickness of the Iron Ore is 15m.

Initial JORC Estimate was 30Mt@58.4%Fe but this was from a very small portion the lease, I estimate it could be as big as 10kms x 350m wide x 15m thick = 240Mt@58%Fe

The in-fill drill programme, with the objective of establishing a JORC compliant resource in the North-West Sector, is scheduled to begin in late May, 2007. The current mineralisation estimate for the North-West Sector is 30Mt grading 58.4% Fe.



Mining Study
An independent mining consultant has carried out a preliminary open pit mining assessment with the objective of indicating stripping ratios and mining costs that could be applicable to the North-West Sector (based on the current mineralisation estimate). The assessment indicated a stripping ratio (overburden : mineralisation) of approximately 4:1 and an overall mining cost of $7.60 per tonne (i.e. per tonne of the 30Mt mineralisation estimate). This assessment takes into account the “free digging” nature of the “valley-fill” material overlying the mineralised zone.



The Company has received several preliminary enquiries from Chinese steel mills regarding ore sales (DSO and beneficiated products) and/or possible participation in the project.



5. Other Spec projects
East Sunrise 100% interest, Gold, 35 kms south of Laverton
Historical exploration has returned promising drill intersections including 14m at 10.2 gpt gold. Further drilling is planned for early 2007. Just food for thought.


Kanowna South Earning 70%, Gold, W.A. Drilling to commence shortly,

Plumridge Earning 60%, Mineral Sands, W.A.
JV with Western Areas

Looking to do some drilling in 2007

Byro Farmed out 70% Free carried 30% up to $1m exp, Nickel & Copper, W.A.
Mithrill farmed in and should do some drilling by 2nd Qtr 07, following up on oxide intersections of Nickel & Copper,

Ravensthorpe 100%, Base metals, W.A. Grounds near BHP's Ravensthorpe project, apparantly prospective for Zinc/Lead,


Attributable Value
Irwin Hills @$5lb Ni =$100m, YML 40%= $40m
Remember Laterite (low grade) No Cap-Ex as can be treated at JV partner MRE's Murrin Murrin Plant,

Carr Boyd @ $5lb Ni + $2lb Cu = $150m, YML's up to 90%= $135m
JV with Cos Min, Excellent Open Pittable Options and scoping study due very soon!

Marilliana 30Mt@57%Fe @ $45t= $770m,
Elephant Ground, possibly only 5% of total size, excellent Infrastructure with BHP Rail Running Straight passed deposit! 50m of top soil, drill results due soon. Current Iron ore prices $75+/t estimated cost = $7.6/t Margin = $65+ t yet I'm only using $45


Total = Approx $950m or $11.80c a share
Right now the stock is still trading at 3.5% of this possible value, I think it deserves at least 10% if not more = $1.18


Not to be greedy, but I'd like to see the SP trade at higher then 10% of the above value.

We really cannot be far away from the CB announcement, after all there are only 7 days left to trade in this month and it's already delayed by what 3 weeks ?
 
I have a question about buying strategies...

Someone just put in an order at 58.5c for about 30,000 shares. So only about 10,000 shares were executed and 20,000 shares left as a buy at 58.5c.

Now, that person has taken away that buy order. Why would someone do this? Put in a largish buy, only for it to be filled by a 1/3rd then take it away...
 
I have a question about buying strategies...

Someone just put in an order at 58.5c for about 30,000 shares. So only about 10,000 shares were executed and 20,000 shares left as a buy at 58.5c.

Now, that person has taken away that buy order. Why would someone do this? Put in a largish buy, only for it to be filled by a 1/3rd then take it away...

may be a change of mind? or possibly pulled out too late when part of the order has already been executed?
 
I have a question about buying strategies...

Someone just put in an order at 58.5c for about 30,000 shares. So only about 10,000 shares were executed and 20,000 shares left as a buy at 58.5c.

Now, that person has taken away that buy order. Why would someone do this? Put in a largish buy, only for it to be filled by a 1/3rd then take it away...

For what UPKA says that may also be true, but I have done this also in the past. Other scenarios that have happened to me have been another share has lit up on another screen,and also the punter has at least a parcel of the shares, which is good enough, and suddenly he /she/it feels that the share may slide and he can pick up a few more at a cheaper price. Important thing is nobody likes to part with their dough.
Also his wife might have come home early grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
For what UPKA says that may also be true, but I have done this also in the past. Other scenarios that have happened to me have been another share has lit up on another screen,and also the punter has at least a parcel of the shares, which is good enough, and suddenly he /she/it feels that the share may slide and he can pick up a few more at a cheaper price. Important thing is nobody likes to part with their dough.
Also his wife might have come home early grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I do it all the time, mostly when trying to accumulate thinly traded stocks. It's often hard to get a decent sized parcel, so if one pops up on a share on which you don't have an order placed it's easier and cheaper to stop an existing order part way through and use those funds on the new acquisition than it is to sell other shares or raise cash. (Hope that made sense!)

This is only an issue if you have limited cash. Hopefully YML will continue its meteoric rise and this will no longer be a problem :D
 
ASX down 70 points, and YML holding strong :D

Still got lots left in this one.

But the announcement surely has to be days away.. ?
 
I had to take some profits on YMLO today, 200k at an avg of 27c, I still have plenty left,

I just thought I'd let you guys know,

This doesn't change my view one bit re YML, I still think it has amaing upside etc but I needed the money + it never hurts to take some profits given how hard its run
 
you cashing up for that July purchase of yours are you?
get back to me about your E36.........

this must be the first time I've seen YML red in almost a week!


that is not true anymore, someone js bought abt 100k shares. we may see some resistance pushing over the 60c mark, bt it certainly would make a better day for all over us finishing at that mark.
 
You know I get the impression everybody is bargain hunting today,with the ASX -70 points . Midday today I think somebody panic sold??? (stand to be corrected like always). But since it has gone up 3.5 cents and with buyers are thinly spread, I would be surprised if you got past 60 cents today, just look at the two columns. Time will tell.....;)
 
News of YT selling (no matter how small a chunk, what he thinks of the company, or how much he's got left) always triggers a selloff!


Don't want to make any sheep like comments but..
 
News of YT selling (no matter how small a chunk, what he thinks of the company, or how much he's got left) always triggers a selloff!


Don't want to make any sheep like comments but..

That would be a serious losing strategy if anyone has sold because of YT selling some YML. Everyone has different timsescales, trading patterns etc.


With all due respect to YT, he doesn't have a Crystal Ball, but is thorough with his research.

YT identifies fundamentally undervalued companies such as YML. If he sells YML and SP drops, then surely that means that YML is now even more undervalued. FUNDAMENTALS HAVE NOT CHANGED....have they YT?:D
 
Guys, he sold options that are expiring very soon - not shares.

Don't take what he said too serious lol

I can't beleive you people are selling because of 1 person, when there are 2 very significant announcements yet to come.

HOLD long and you will be rewarded.
 
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