Would Peter Costello make a good PM?

[rub92me]

Re: Would Peter make a good PM

Well after Johnny is finally done here (in another 10 years or so just to keep Peter guessing) maybe he can run China: he'd still be considered young for government there...

 

[Duckman#72]

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Unfortunately. I Surely it is time for John Howard to go - without sounding like a Gen X'er (or is that a Y'er : ) I just think we need someone a little younger!

Hi Prospector - don't get me started on Gen Y!!!

Can you imagine the first true Gen Y'er running for PM? Standing on the campaign platform asking..."Why should I run for PM? What will the country do for ME"

Costello is living in fairyland. Best outcome for the Coalition in the short term. Beasley is so insincere in all his media bites. I don't think he has enough credibility to last another election.

Duckman

 

[Julia]

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Hi Prospector - don't get me started on Gen Y!!!

Can you imagine the first true Gen Y'er running for PM? Standing on the campaign platform asking..."Why should I run for PM? What will the country do for ME"

Costello is living in fairyland. Best outcome for the Coalition in the short term. Beasley is so insincere in all his media bites. I don't think he has enough credibility to last another election.

Duckman

Hi Duckman

Completely agree on all counts.

I'm quite happy that Costello has been relegated to the semi-background again. He was becoming distinctly irritating with his presumption of entitlement to the Prime Ministership. He appeared to completely ignore the fact that most Australians just simply didn't want him!

I think a couple of years ago some "adviser" must have told Kim Beasley that he needed to shed his "nice guy" image, stop being a teddy bear character, and project some sense of power and dynamism. Well, Kim, sorry old son, it just doesn't work. You just can't be what you're not. When he's trying so hard to sound strong and purposeful, he just sounds faintly ridiculous.

Wouldn't Kevin Rudd be better?

Julia

 

[StockyBailx]

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Suprising results, so far, I have only read this page and found a lot of negativity towards Peter and feal thats totaly wrong and you's all should wake up to your selfs. Johny's the one in fairyland taking the country for a ride, hiding behind the governer general and denial to Australians of thier true identity. Personaly i hate the pig and we deserve better. If Peter was elected PM, I mite even start to like and appreciate the Aust Government, a Republic is what we need and I'm sick and tired of living under that dirty bitches skirt it stinks.

Feel very insulted that Peter didn't get a chance & that Australias true identity of a republic get nothing but a snotty mention into Australias way of life, and is not presented at the table more often. This Commonwealth stinks and always will!

I really don't understand how you's can let the Government take you all for granted and insult your real values in life?

 

[The Mint Man]

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well.... I thought I would give this thread a re-birth considering there is talk in the press about if it is or isn't too late for John Howard to pass the PM position onto Peter Costello.
My personal opinion is that it is not too late and even though some members of the press would call this a hospital pass, I wouldn’t really agree with that.
Would it change my vote if this did happen? No, I’m voting for libs either way, I think that they will do the best job and the thought of all the states being labor as well as federal scares me. Not to mention the unions.

I think that if John Howard hands over the top job before the election he needs to do it by the end of next month, I think that this would win a few votes from the people that think he’s too old, or whatever they think???..... People are strange, I mean I’ve heard of people that will vote for Rudd based on his Sunrise PR work.
If there has to be a change of PM the IMO Peter Costello would make a better one than Rudd would.
Either way, I feel there is a change going to happen in the next 6 months... either Rudd wins the election, Howard wins and hands it over to Costello or Howard hands it over now/soon.
Lately I have just had this feeling that Howard may have to think about handing it over, after all he has said that he will do what he thinks is best for his party.


Cheers

 

[Julia]

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I'm ambivalent about this. Actually think Costello would be OK as PM, and definitely better than Rudd. At least we know he is competent in terms of running the economy. Can't say the same about Wayne Swan.

My reservation is that such a change at this late stage would smack of pure panic by the Libs and they would be mocked to hell and high water by the Opposition. But perhaps that would be short lived and we still have several months until the election.

Certainly a contest between Costello and Rudd might wake everyone up a bit.
I will be voting Liberal anyway, but am warming to the idea of a change in leadership. I don't suppose Costello would be too hard to persuade to the notion. His chances of being PM are receding ever further into the distance under the present circumstances.

 

[Captain_Chaza]

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NO! I think he is TOO short

History teaches us not to have short people in top positions

Salute and Bon Voyage

 

[wayneL]

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I think he would be a good PM, but I reckon the Lib leadership right now is a poison chalice. I wouldn't take it if I were him.

3 years of humble pie would probably improve him too.

Best result IMO:
*Libs lose this election
*We get 3 years of Labour to swing the pendulum back a bit ( 3 years of Julia Dullard, Wayne Swine et al would be a stretch but a temporary inconvenience i imagine)
*Peter Pan takes over Libs and wins the next election.
*Turnbull, Abbott & Nelson somehow disappear before then

 

[The Mint Man]

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At least we know he is competent in terms of running the economy. Can't say the same about Wayne Swan.

For sure!

My reservation is that such a change at this late stage would smack of pure panic by the Libs and they would be mocked to hell and high water by the Opposition. But perhaps that would be short lived and we still have several months until the election.

Possibly... but I think that it could also work in Liberals favour if all Labour could do was mock them, the Australian public is looking for policy not mockery! and so far Labor has not delivered on that front. A change in the Liberal camp could throw Labor off their game. It would also be considered hypocritical for labor to mock considering how many changes labor has had over the last few years.... but hey that rarely stops them and we have seen some exampls of that lately.

Chaza, your a goose.

Cheers.

 

[Bloveld]

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two jack

Also entrenched in my mind are the tales my dad tells me of having to work ridiculous hours only to come home at night to mind the kids (myself and 2 brothers) while my mum walked out the door to go to work to earn extra money, In other words they hardly seen each other, mabey 1/2 an hour a day! And all of this was because of the 17-18% interest rates on their mortgage. :swear:



Mint Man :grinsking

Yeah how long did they have to do that for?
And how is it any different today?

 

[The Mint Man]

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Yeah how long did they have to do that for?
And how is it any different today?

Hmmm,
To be honest I dont understand the reason for your first question and as for the second one... well for me personally I own a house which I have a mortgage on but get this, I work part time (25 hrs per week) and my missus works casual (around 10 hrs a week) Now tell me if you could do that before!! thanks to low unemployment, better wages more casual and part time jobs being available I am able to do this. No I dont have any kids ATM but if I did I sure as hell wouldn't have to work as hard as my parents did.
Granted that there are 'battlers' (for lack of a better word) these days but IMO not as many as the times I speak of.

Please say whats on your mind, thats what the forum is for!

Cheers

 

[Broadside]

Re: Would Peter make a good PM?

I think he would be a good PM, but I reckon the Lib leadership right now is a poison chalice. I wouldn't take it if I were him.

3 years of humble pie would probably improve him too.

Best result IMO:
*Libs lose this election
*We get 3 years of Labour to swing the pendulum back a bit ( 3 years of Julia Dullard, Wayne Swine et al would be a stretch but a temporary inconvenience i imagine)
*Peter Pan takes over Libs and wins the next election.
*Turnbull, Abbott & Nelson somehow disappear before then

I would like to see that scenario, or even better the Coalition scrapes in this year and then Howard is dumped/resigns for Costello to lead. If ALP wins, likely it will be for at least 2 terms, Australian electorate rarely turfs out a govt after one term, electoral inertia.

 

[Bloveld]

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Hmmm,
To be honest I dont understand the reason for your first question and as for the second one... well for me personally I own a house which I have a mortgage on but get this, I work part time (25 hrs per week) and my missus works casual (around 10 hrs a week) Now tell me if you could do that before!! thanks to low unemployment, better wages more casual and part time jobs being available I am able to do this. No I dont have any kids ATM but if I did I sure as hell wouldn't have to work as hard as my parents did.
Granted that there are 'battlers' (for lack of a better word) these days but IMO not as many as the times I speak of.

Please say whats on your mind, thats what the forum is for!

Cheers

Firstly the high jnterest rates only lasted a short time.

Back in 89 I was clearing $1000 a week. I could nearly buy an average house with 1 years wage. Now it would take about 3 years an I am basically doing the same job.
The point is that an average wage earner cant pay back the average mortage.
So you may think things were hard then, I think its harder now.

 

[toothfairy]

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two jack
:iagree:
especially when you think of the debt labour left behind.
Also entrenched in my mind are the tales my dad tells me of having to work ridiculous hours only to come home at night to mind the kids (myself and 2 brothers) while my mum walked out the door to go to work to earn extra money, In other words they hardly seen each other, mabey 1/2 an hour a day! And all of this was because of the 17-18% interest rates on their mortgage. :swear:

On top of this I have had run ins with unions over the years (even when I was a member at one stage), these are people that claim to help people, and also are die hard Labour supporters... I belive they only care about themselfs and that they will only act when there are alot of members at steak, if its only one or two they dont seem to care. I am still owed about $1000 from a previous place of work where I was a member, do you think the union helped? Hell no, they just took even more money from me $230 to be exact. so now Im $1230 out of pocket! They even still have the hide to send me bills every now and then, and yes I have resigned.???
I also hate the scare tactics they use either to force their views on their members causing strikes etc. or in order to scare people into joining, of course in the process filling their bank accounts.
Recently they have been going on about workers rights, mainly contracts etc. well I dont know about anyone else but I have recently signed a contract with my employer that I am more then happy with.
I will continue to have these views until the unions change their tune but Im not holding my breath.
Either way I will never ever join a union again


Mint Man :grinsking

High or low interest rate is a global situation that is not very dependent on what Australian political leader can decide on. At the moment the whole world is on relatively low rate. We are just following them, as a matter of fact we are higher than most of the major economically developed countries. There is absolutely nothing that Costello/Howard can do if the whole world has a high interest rate now but to follow (like they always like to follow Mr. Bush). I won't give them any credit for the REASONABLE interest rate that we are facing now, the US rate is typically 1% lower than ours.
Back to your survey, is Costello a good PM, you got to be kidding, he is a bit stale (too experienced in the wrong job). LOL.

 

[disarray]

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does labor even have a policy beyond an anti-liberal policy soundbyte? john howard is one of the few leaders in parliament with any kind of vision (as parochial as it is). sadly this reflects the truly appaling state of our current crop of political leaders if little johnny is the best we can come up with.

 

[toothfairy]

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does labor even have a policy beyond an anti-liberal policy soundbyte? john howard is one of the few leaders in parliament with any kind of vision (as parochial as it is). sadly this reflects the truly appaling state of our current crop of political leaders if little johnny is the best we can come up with.

Ah, talking about parochial, Costello is getting worst in his old age, his narrow minded side came out when he was making some sort of rediculous statement about people of other religions (Muslims for my memory) last year when there was some panic about terrorism, he is definitely getting worse, not PM material.
I think I rather concentrate in share trading, doesn't matter who wins, ASX will still be opened. Vote for ASX.

 

[Rafa]

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john howard is one of the few leaders in parliament with any kind of vision

John Howards vision doesn't extend beyond getting voted in at the next election

Costellos recent comments make me think he intends to follow Howards blue print...

 

[disarray]

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John Howards vision doesn't extend beyond getting voted in at the next election

i pretty much agree. and it seems thats the best vision we can hope for from our political leaders.

there was a dateline discussion on the other night talking about long term plans for the country, unfortunately the discussion was largely a waste of time because government plans centre around winning elections, not running the country.

 

[Rafa]

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is dateline the show on SBS hosted by Jenny Brockie... If it is, then i did see that the other night...

As usual, a lot of hot air in the room...

Couple of key points i thought were...
the nation need extra spending in transport infrastructure, broadband infrastructure, water infrastructure, education and aboriginal health.

Whilst the latter two may need govt spending, the frist three issues don't...... as long as the framework is in place to enable the private sector to deliver, is should be fine.

the broadband issue is one area where the framework simply isnt in place.