Julia
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In a male dominated forum such as ASF, I'm not sure that this article will even be read, let alone endorsed, but it's interesting. Any comments?
http://smallbusiness.smh.com.au/man...man-911082635.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2
I'd have suggested the reverse, Nioka. i.e. that women are likely to say, OK, that didn't work well. Where did we go wrong? How can we do it better?Read . Yes
Endorsed. No.
Reason. From my experience women make good managers when things are going along OK. They do not stick it out when things get tough, men are more inclined to shrug their shoulders and give it another try.
Good to hear, MRC & Co.I like woman as managers.
I find you don't get the ego trip and little man syndrome many guys experience. They are nobodies in their every day life and come to work for their power trip.
Just my experiences and a generalisation of course.
In a male dominated forum such as ASF, I'm not sure that this article will even be read, let alone endorsed, but it's interesting. Any comments?
Not right at all. Next time you hear a female blame the glass ceiling look at the situation and you will mostly find that they couldnt hack the job when things weren't going the way they liked it. It is not all one sided though. I'll admit to walking away from a top job in a reasonably large company myself. I sat at a desk one day and decided that I spent most of my time either signing my name or settling arguments between Division Managers, Supervisors and Department Heads etc. The males used to blame others for their shortcomings. The women blamed their shortcomings on others not accepting a woman in the job. Everyone seemed to think they could do everyone elses job better than the person doing it. Men often asked why they were overlooked for promotiom. Women usually just said that they weren't promoted just because they were a woman.I'd have suggested the reverse, Nioka. i.e. that women are likely to say, OK, that didn't work well. Where did we go wrong? How can we do it better?
Nioka, how long ago would that have been?Not right at all. Next time you hear a female blame the glass ceiling look at the situation and you will mostly find that they couldnt hack the job when things weren't going the way they liked it. It is not all one sided though. I'll admit to walking away from a top job in a reasonably large company myself. I sat at a desk one day and decided that I spent most of my time either signing my name or settling arguments between Division Managers, Supervisors and Department Heads etc. The males used to blame others for their shortcomings. The women blamed their shortcomings on others not accepting a woman in the job. Everyone seemed to think they could do everyone elses job better than the person doing it. Men often asked why they were overlooked for promotiom. Women usually just said that they weren't promoted just because they were a woman.
Nioka, how long ago would that have been?
In a male dominated forum such as ASF, I'm not sure that this article will even be read, let alone endorsed, but it's interesting. Any comments?
http://smallbusiness.smh.com.au/man...man-911082635.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2
transformational (people-focused) leadership is far more effective than transactional (task-focused) leadership. Along the way it also found that women outperformed men in transformational prowess.
My observation is that women tend to be a bit more adept at intrinsically knowing their own aptitudes, whereas men often try to be something or recruited into something they are not.
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But then it's horses for courses a bit, depending on the enviornment to be managed, ie whether it's more people or task orientated.
Gentically,
Physiologically,
Phychologically,
Sociologically,
Anatomically,
Educationally,
Religiously,
Logically,
Women should still be subservant to the dominant species right now. Men still clearly dominante, and should, across the globe.
Don't think insular happy go lucky free ranging Australian middle class eastern suburbs mentality. Think global for this argument.
Give it another 200 years and perhaps the tide will be turned due primarilly to technology.
We will evolve to be totally androgenous eventually, and be equal in all ways. Cripes, one day, men will be having babies without the need for a pouch. Maybe it will be women who don't require protection..
At the moment, females are still on the end of the 'make babies to populate the world and ensure we survive' time scale.
Men generally control the exterior environment, and should. Part of this genetic, social, etc, natural quality is the ability to lead and manage.
Women are still (across the globe - get your mind out of the burbs) looking after domestic gathering and nurturing responsibilities.
Of course, women are much better at that than males.
If you want to go to war however, I think you better look to the men for leadership and management.
If the topic is about management in high business, then qualities required on the battlefront are probably more akin to making a business work.
Did I get off topic there.
(just some quick random thoughts)
noika, didn't want to counter Julia's points but just went on my own discourse of the general topic.WOW! What else can I answer that with? Your turn Julia!
In a male dominated forum such as ASF, I'm not sure that this article will even be read, let alone endorsed, but it's interesting. Any comments?
http://smallbusiness.smh.com.au/man...man-911082635.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap2
I'd have suggested the reverse, Nioka. i.e. that women are likely to say, OK, that didn't work well. Where did we go wrong? How can we do it better?
Good to hear, MRC & Co.
I'd suggest that women managers are also less likely to get involved in sexual harassment of their employees, something which can be pretty depressing and boring with a male manager.
Dear Julia,
I don`t think gender should be an issue.A competent manager is a competent manager.
W.
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