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Don't know what other peoples experience is but this story rings very true. Thought it was worth opening a conversation on it. And perhaps constructive options.

It is a long read but IMO well worth the time.

'Our minds can be hijacked': the tech insiders who fear a smartphone dystopia
Google, Twitter and Facebook workers who helped make technology so addictive are disconnecting themselves from the internet. Paul Lewis reports on the Silicon Valley refuseniks who worry the race for human attention has created a world of perpetual distraction that could ultimately end in disaster

by Paul Lewis in San Francisco

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Friday 6 October 2017 06.00 BST Last modified on Friday 6 October 2017 06.57 BST

Justin Rosenstein had tweaked his laptop’s operating system to block Reddit, banned himself from Snapchat, which he compares to heroin, and imposed limits on his use of Facebook. But even that wasn’t enough. In August, the 34-year-old tech executive took a more radical step to restrict his use of social media and other addictive technologies.

Rosenstein purchased a new iPhone and instructed his assistant to set up a parental-control feature to prevent him from downloading any apps.

He was particularly aware of the allure of Facebook “likes”, which he describes as “bright dings of pseudo-pleasure” that can be as hollow as they are seductive. And Rosenstein should know: he was the Facebook engineer who created the “like” button in the first place.

A decade after he stayed up all night coding a prototype of what was then called an “awesome” button, Rosenstein belongs to a small but growing band of Silicon Valley heretics who complain about the rise of the so-called “attention economy”: an internet shaped around the demands of an advertising economy.

These refuseniks are rarely founders or chief executives, who have little incentive to deviate from the mantra that their companies are making the world a better place. Instead, they tend to have worked a rung or two down the corporate ladder: designers, engineers and product managers who, like Rosenstein, several years ago put in place the building blocks of a digital world from which they are now trying to disentangle themselves. “It is very common,” Rosenstein says, “for humans to develop things with the best of intentions and for them to have unintended, negative consequences.”

Rosenstein, who also helped create Gchat during a stint at Google, and now leads a San Francisco-based company that improves office productivity, appears most concerned about the psychological effects on people who, research shows, touch, swipe or tap their phone 2,617 times a day.

There is growing concern that as well as addicting users, technology is contributing toward so-called “continuous partial attention”, severely limiting people’s ability to focus, and possibly lowering IQ. One recent study showed that the mere presence of smartphones damages cognitive capacity – even when the device is turned off. “Everyone is distracted,” Rosenstein says. “All of the time.”

It is very common for humans to develop things with the best of intentions that have unintended, negative consequences

But those concerns are trivial compared to the devastating impact upon the political system that some of Rosenstein’s peers believe can be attributed to the rise of social media and the attention-based market that drives it.

Drawing a straight line between addiction to social media and political earthquakes like Brexit and the rise of Donald Trump, they contend that digital forces have completely upended the political system and, left unchecked, could even render democracy as we know it obsolete.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/05/smartphone-addiction-silicon-valley-dystopia
 
Yes, I think social media today's heroin, but it depends how it is used. This site for example is a fount of knowledge and wisdom ;), and it's one of only two or three that I regularly post to, and I think I'm even starting to over use even these.

It all goes back to good education imo, those kids who have been educated wisely to the faults of social media will limit their exposure to it, whereas the bogans will lap it up like they consume packets of chips and Coca Cola.

The victory will be as it always has been, of the smarties over the drones, the manipulators over the manipulated, and the only thing we can do is not believe anything unless we have the evidence.
 
The smart phone will be the Australia card.IMO

Big Brother uses it to collect and record everything you do and say. Even if it's turned off.

Same goes with laptops and web cameras. So put a black tape over them.

Bought a new phone few months ago. Took the kids to the museum and when I turn to check the time, Google tells me what's interesting about the Museum I'm currently at. WTF?

I switch that option off but yea, they still know where we are just won't be telling us about it.
 
Took the kids to the museum and when I turn to check the time, Google tells me what's interesting about the Museum I'm currently at. WTF?
And if you search for the museum it will tell you what times it's busiest and how long people typically spend there. Same with everything from a lookout point on a hill near a small town through to restaurants in a city.

So yep, we're being tracked most certainly.

On a positive, it can be helpful to know that sort of thing sometimes. If people normally spend 2 hours at some place I've never been to then obviously there must be something there worth doing otherwise they'd be gone in far less time. Etc.

I wonder if the data has been or could be used for good purposes regarding the law? With phones tracking whereabouts, electronic payment of most things including public transport and toll roads and so on it ought to be pretty straightforward to validate someone's claim that they (for example) left work at 5pm, walked to the train station and then got on a train thus couldn't possibly have been at the crime scene 50km away at 5:20 pm. Etc.
 
And if you search for the museum it will tell you what times it's busiest and how long people typically spend there. Same with everything from a lookout point on a hill near a small town through to restaurants in a city.

So yep, we're being tracked most certainly.

On a positive, it can be helpful to know that sort of thing sometimes. If people normally spend 2 hours at some place I've never been to then obviously there must be something there worth doing otherwise they'd be gone in far less time. Etc.

I wonder if the data has been or could be used for good purposes regarding the law? With phones tracking whereabouts, electronic payment of most things including public transport and toll roads and so on it ought to be pretty straightforward to validate someone's claim that they (for example) left work at 5pm, walked to the train station and then got on a train thus couldn't possibly have been at the crime scene 50km away at 5:20 pm. Etc.

Heard a case recently in the US where some guy is suspected of murdering his spouse and the authority wanted Amazon to give them access to recordings they made of the home from one of those voice-controlled smart speaker. I think Amazon refuses because they track their customers for other purposes :D

Another use, and I'm guessing here, is Google possibly using our phones to help them map traffic congestion on their map app. The other alternative would be satellite but that'd be way too expensive right?

I also noticed Google are showing ads and recommend videos based on stuff I discussed in private Outlook emails and forums.

Good thing their motto is "Do no evil" or else we're stuffed.

Imagine you're a politician or someone that could be of use to big private interest... Today's surveillance makes Elliot Pritzer's banks leaking his use of escort (through his card transaction) to the public seems prehistoric.
 
Certainly our Smart Phone is Big Brother in our pocket. The issue I was opening up was the effect that unrestrained usage is having on us, our children our work and social life the way we see the world.

It is also affecting our attention span and brains. All in a very short time period. The article is long but worth redaing IMO.
 
Certainly our Smart Phone is Big Brother in our pocket. The issue I was opening up was the effect that unrestrained usage is having on us, our children our work and social life the way we see the world.

It is also affecting our attention span and brains. All in a very short time period. The article is long but worth redaing IMO.
saw some dumbass ass estate agent cruising in around in its latest car with this massive builders brick type thing glued to it ear lol I guess it must have been an automatic
 
And if you search for the museum it will tell you what times it's busiest and how long people typically spend there. Same with everything from a lookout point on a hill near a small town through to restaurants in a city.

So yep, we're being tracked most certainly.

On a positive, it can be helpful to know that sort of thing sometimes. If people normally spend 2 hours at some place I've never been to then obviously there must be something there worth doing otherwise they'd be gone in far less time. Etc.

I wonder if the data has been or could be used for good purposes regarding the law? With phones tracking whereabouts, electronic payment of most things including public transport and toll roads and so on it ought to be pretty straightforward to validate someone's claim that they (for example) left work at 5pm, walked to the train station and then got on a train thus couldn't possibly have been at the crime scene 50km away at 5:20 pm. Etc.
Gees scary thought maybe they are tracking me while I have a bog lol good luck with jerks lol
 
And if you search for the museum it will tell you what times it's busiest and how long people typically spend there. Same with everything from a lookout point on a hill near a small town through to restaurants in a city.

So yep, we're being tracked most certainly.

On a positive, it can be helpful to know that sort of thing sometimes. If people normally spend 2 hours at some place I've never been to then obviously there must be something there worth doing otherwise they'd be gone in far less time. Etc.

I wonder if the data has been or could be used for good purposes regarding the law? With phones tracking whereabouts, electronic payment of most things including public transport and toll roads and so on it ought to be pretty straightforward to validate someone's claim that they (for example) left work at 5pm, walked to the train station and then got on a train thus couldn't possibly have been at the crime scene 50km away at 5:20 pm. Etc.
Gees scary thought maybe they are tracking me while I have a bog lol good luck with jerks lol
 
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