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Investigation: Why is China on the move in the South Pacific?
I was just responding to the previous article's think tanker saying China's just building empty cities and highways etc.
I think at the current rate, China's high speed rail will equal all the world's high speed rail in about 2022.
From glancing at the feed of its finished highways and tunnels, it's quite impressive.
This thread has been quiet for a while, the answer to the question is starting to become obvious IMO, it's China's way or the highway.
'If you make China the enemy, China will be the enemy': Beijing's fresh threat to Australia
A deliberately leaked Chinese government document has laid out 14 disputes aimed at pressuring the Morrison government to reverse Australia’s position on key policies.www.smh.com.au
I guess a lot of people in Canberra, will be wondering why they let all the Australian industries shut down, now that we get everything from one supplier.
So what do you propose?Yes it is all fine and great that the industrialized countries send their manufacturing to third world countries, to lift them out of poverty, I hope they are as magnanimous when the roles are reversed.
It is a shame, many of the ranters and chanters can't forsee what will be the result of their efforts. Lol
How do you manufacture in this country when our core inputs are so expensive, power, shelter and wages?
Spot on Rumpy, the only way we can survive as a first world nation, with the benefits like welfare, medicare, pension etc, is to go back to the future and either re introduce tarrifs to support manufacturing, or introduce a mineral tax based on volume to pay for the building of a manufacturing base.I know it's an outdated idea, but, tariffs.
Charge each country a tariff o all their goods equal to the highest tariff they put on our goods.
See if that makes a difference.
Spot on Rumpy, the only way we can survive as a first world nation, with the benefits like welfare, medicare, pension etc, is to go back to the future and either re introduce tarrifs to support manufacturing, or introduce a mineral tax based on volume to pay for the building of a manufacturing base.
It isnt as though it hasnt already been done in the past, it was a condition of mining our minerals in the 1960s that down stream processing was built, that is how Kwinana, whyalla etc were started.
It has only been since the 1980s that this was dismantled and it wasnt by the Liberals as most would think, but having said that, the Libs didnt put a halt to the slide.
Also as has been shown in the U.S, trying to force manufacturers to return their factories to high wages countries isnt easy, the media relies on big business for advertising income, step on their toes and there are reprocussions as Trump found out, people only hear what the media tell them.
Absolutely, many poor outcomes have been born from good intent, Labor from memory signed up to the Lima agreement which had noble intent. Then Hawke/Keating commenced dismantling tarrifs to support the intent of the agreement and reduced protections and commenced deregulating the financial system.Unfortunately, governments have signed away our rights with so called "Free" Trade agreements, which have reduced or eliminated our freedom to act in the national interest.
Trump had the right idea there, throw off the shackles and do what's best for the nation.
That is very true and it wasnt long ago that our tool manufacturing closed down sidchrome, it is like anything else, if it is worth protecting it has to be given a level of assistance.They are not dumping their products here, they are just satisfying the Aussie thirst for cheap and nasty throw away junk that's being sold all over the place, Bunnings really got the ball rolling years ago, how often have you heard the line " I'll just throw it out when it breaks and get a new one"
That is very true and it wasnt long ago that our tool manufacturing closed down sidchrome, it is like anything else, if it is worth protecting it has to be given a level of assistance.
You cant make a socket set in Australia for the same price as China, if you pay Australian wages, super,annual leave, sickies, long service leave, redundacy payments etc, so if you dont put a tarrif on the Chinsse product how do you keep the Australian product competitive.
Then that leads to the question if you cant and it should be shut down, how do you keep the workers conditions in Australia, when you shut down all the work?
Again what you say is true and I also have a Web and Brown torque wrench.It's a shame yeah. "You Canner Hand A Man A Grander Spanner" , no longer true ...
I still own aussie made sidchrome tools, and whenever I come across the old sidchrome in a second hand shop I will snap it up.
Me personally I do make a conscientious decision when buying tools and am prepared to pay a premium, the Americans and Germans can still manufacture even with the OK wages/sickies/leave, amazon can supply US and German made tooling at reasonable pricing, I have purchased through them, you can also still buy Australian made torque wrenches (W&B), little pricy but they are tools for life, I even purchased a Spanish made ceiling exhaust fan this week to replace the original that failed, the options are out there, just got to do a little ground work.
Again what you say is true and I also have a Web and Brown torque wrench.
But where the U.S and Europe have a huge advantage over us is, they have a much larger domestic market place and neither has the wages and conditions we enjoy, German car manufacturers from memory use a lot of imported labour and outsource production to third world countries.
The VW Golf 2.0 TDi I bought in 2005 was manufactured in South Africa.
Australia since the 1960s has been living in a purple patch, easily and cheaply recovered minerals that are being removed at an ever increasing speed, when they have been removed what then?
At the moment we go to Bali and behave like millionaires, we import labour from South Pacific islands, while 1.2 million are on jobseeker, it really doesnt inspire confidence in our ability to overcome our underlying problems IMO.
Agreed.So back to the topic, yes China will rule, they had a 30 year plan, what do we have? Nothing
We export energy but cannot keep some of it for ourselves.
China make have taken a step too far with its aggressive attitude and policies. Countries are beginning to wake up to the threat posed.
Justin Trudeau at APEC calls on middle powers to step up
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has called for middle and smaller nations to step up where the US has stepped back to shore up multilateral institutions and ensure that China “plays by the rules”, in a powerful address to the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit.
Mr Trudeau used his speech on Friday to the Malaysia-hosted digital meeting to warn the era of “Pax Americana” was over — notwithstanding an anticipated shift back to multilateralism under president-elect Joe Biden — and smaller nations needed to pull together to show leadership on issues from global trade to coercive Chinese diplomacy.
“It’s time for smaller countries to realise we all have a weight and ability to shape global leadership in meaningful ways for our citizens and neighbours,” Mr Trudeau told the APEC summit in a 45-minute online address that included a question-and-answer session.
“In the face of pressure and increasingly coercive moves by one of the world’s great powers, it really highlights we need to be working together as allies, as neighbours, as friends, as countries.
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