Why do people down-ramp?

[agro]

i have often wonder what is the motive behind one down ramping, i came up with two thoughts, people..

1 - have lost money on it in the past and want to confirm their beliefs for selling and/or

2 - know it's a good company and hence down ramp to push the price lower so they can buy in it themselves

other's thoughts on why people down ramp?

i know when i ramp a stock i want it to go up because i hold it..

 

[Pommiegranite]

i have often wonder what is the motive behind one down ramping, i came up with two thoughts, people..

1 - have lost money on it in the past and want to confirm their beliefs for selling and/or

2 - know it's a good company and hence down ramp to push the price lower so they can buy in it themselves

other's thoughts on why people down ramp?

i know when i ramp a stock i want it to go up because i hold it..

Because its easier to be 'right' about a company not getting it right. Gives some people the opportunity to say "told you so".

 

[cutz]

Well i guess if their short.

 

[stockGURU]

other's thoughts on why people down ramp?

What, in your opinion, constitutes downramping?

i know when i ramp a stock i want it to go up because i hold it..

Do you really think ramping a stock has any effect on the share price?

 

[agro]

What, in your opinion, constitutes downramping?

bringing up negative points about a company without considering the positives

Do you really think ramping a stock has any effect on the share price?

it can draw potential buyers

 

[stockGURU]

bringing up negative points about a company without considering the positives

My understanding is that downramping is being openly bearish on a stock without providing any information or analysis to support your point of view.

Are those who are openly bullish on a stock also posting about the negatives? Do you do this?

IMO, you need people to point out both the positives and negatives to provide balance.

it can draw potential buyers

So you feel like you need to trick potential buyers into purchasing a stock so you can benefit financially?

You'd probably make a good used car salesman.

 

[Nyden]

I can ask the same of you agro - you did just admit that you ramp ...

Do people (especially in all this mess) ramp to convince themselves that they've made the right choice?


Sigh, why is it okay for (perma)bulls to ramp, and be excited at gains whilst things are booming ... but when the trend turns, suddenly they can't handle it reversed? I'm not terribly upset at what's happening, and I'm happy to start seeing everything become more affordable, and to get back in line with wage growth. Does this make me "evil"?


... I guess empathy is something I lack, some of the time

Lest we not forget as well, that people not invested during boom times lost money as well (to inflation); and perhaps all those home-buyers boasting about their gains back in the day was also hurtful and insensitive. Mass ignorance isn't an excuse for individual ignorance

 

[nunthewiser]

i have often wonder what is the motive behind one down ramping, i came up with two thoughts, people..

1 - have lost money on it in the past and want to confirm their beliefs for selling and/or

2 - know it's a good company and hence down ramp to push the price lower so they can buy in it themselves

other's thoughts on why people down ramp?

i know when i ramp a stock i want it to go up because i hold it..

Hi , is quoting facts classed as downramping ? or is it called providing an unbiased and factual viewpoint ? i do understand slaggin a stock without a factual reason is rather silly, but would rather here a balanced view on a stock rather than a one eyed holders viewpoint ,

call me silly but i,d actually rather here the WORST a company get to offer rather than the good before placing MY hard earned cash in it. but hey im just a bogan that reckons that hype and opinion means squat when it comes to looking at a company .

all the best hope this dont offend any more sensitive viewers
blessya

 

[chops_a_must]

I can ask the same of you agro - you did just admit that you ramp ...

LMFAO!!!

i know when i ramp a stock i want it to go up because i hold it..

You aren't the brightest are you?

So any stock you hold, you are attempting to ramp?

Please, do tell us which stocks you are attempting to ramp.

 

[marklar]

Umm.... because they can?

Seriously it's the opposite of ramping a stock, to achieve a particular price to buy or sell, an attempt to influence sheeple.

m.

 

[Trembling Hand]

Agro your are a funny one.

People post their views because they fall into two categories,

One, that's what they believe

Two, that's what they believe but are opposite to those in category one.

Pretty simple. :

 

[agro]

Agro your are a funny one.

People post their views because they fall into two categories,

One, that's what they believe

Two, that's what they believe but are opposite to those in category one.

Pretty simple. :

what explains the motive behind this? is it in the best interest of the shareholders?

i mean, what makes an individual want to come into a thread and start expressing views of opposition when quiet frankly they have no ownership of the stock?

 

[nunthewiser]

what explains the motive behind this? is it in the best interest of the shareholders?

i mean, what makes an individual want to come into a thread and start expressing views of opposition when quiet frankly they have no ownership of the stock?

refer to post#8

 

[chops_a_must]

what explains the motive behind this? is it in the best interest of the shareholders?

i mean, what makes an individual want to come into a thread and start expressing views of opposition when quiet frankly they have no ownership of the stock?

Lol.

Is it called due diligence?

I mean, why does Buffet analyse a company without owning the stock? What a blockhead!

 

[prawn_86]

what explains the motive behind this? is it in the best interest of the shareholders?

i mean, what makes an individual want to come into a thread and start expressing views of opposition when quiet frankly they have no ownership of the stock?

Ever thought that is is merely in the interst of fairness and discussion.

Or the fact there is a reason that they do not hold. If you had it your way Agro, every thread would be holders posting away in blissful ignorance, oblivious to any possible problems.

You have admitted you are a ramper, and its obvious you cannot discuss a stock you hold objectively.

 

[Nyden]

what explains the motive behind this? is it in the best interest of the shareholders?

i mean, what makes an individual want to come into a thread and start expressing views of opposition when quiet frankly they have no ownership of the stock?

Surely people would want to know the potential dangers in a stock; opposing views are incredibly important!

You believe that people should leave a thread alone, and let it be a pit of ramping? Gosh, wouldn't that just look like a hotcopper thread A whole lot of starry-eyed nonsense, with very little fact.

You must either be a very foolish investor, or are someone who is hurting really bad right now, and is looking for someone to blame.

 

[IFocus]

Agro I get no pleasure from watching holders get burnt really, but I get really F*$ken angry when I see others talking up a stock that is clearly getting dumped for what every reason, down ramping WTF, try reality, try the biggest credit contraction the world has ever seen.

End of rant, Agro please lean from this there are serious lessons to be learnt here all the best.

 

[prawn_86]

You must either be a very foolish investor, or are someone who is hurting really bad right now, and is looking for someone to blame.

Yep, seems like a classic case of denial to me

 

[Trembling Hand]

what explains the motive behind this? is it in the best interest of the shareholders?

i mean, what makes an individual want to come into a thread and start expressing views of opposition when quiet frankly they have no ownership of the stock?

Agro I have been questioning that very same thing.

It is obvious that many a person fall in love with ideas. Whenever someone tries to post the opposite, that is their love is not the correct way to go about making money in this game, they are talking to someone in denial. And most certainly wasting time, other than some sick enjoyment out of other peoples pain and a good education in how not to trade.

I would like to point out to you that you very aggressively dumped on MichaelDs comments that FMG was a dud as far as share price trend was heading some 100% higher than it is now. He has been proven correct while you have lost money, had a margin call, dumped stock, re-entered and again sitting on a huge % loss. Yet you are still blaming the messenger of infidelity rather than your lover.

No wonder you get depressed over the share market. Depression can come about when you realise the ideals you hold have become disconnected from reality. Unfortunately that is still not a cure.

Best of luck.

 

[gav]

I would like to point out to you that you very aggressively dumped on MichaelDs comments that FMG was a dud as far as share price trend was heading some 100% higher than it is now. He has been proven correct while you have lost money, had a margin call, dumped stock, re-entered and again sitting on a huge % loss. Yet you are still blaming the messenger of infidelity rather than your lover.

That would be like me saying a month ago <insert company here> is a dud as far as share price goes, and then saying I'm correct because the share price dropped! With current market sentiment, just about EVERYTHING is getting hammered. Predicting a falling SP is going to fall more short term means nothing about the actual company.

OK my turn.... BHP is a dud and totally overvalued IMO.

If BHP falls even lower next week, does that mean I'm right, and BHP is a dud???

Oh, and then I can tell all the shareholders "I told you so".....