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Who are you voting for?

Who will you vote for?

  • Labor

    Votes: 74 37.2%
  • Liberal

    Votes: 92 46.2%
  • National

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Other with LIB/Nat preference

    Votes: 7 3.5%
  • Other with a Labor preference

    Votes: 13 6.5%
  • Greens

    Votes: 11 5.5%

  • Total voters
    199
  • Poll closed .
Labor is hiding nothing ....
How do you know?

Its just pathetic Howard/Costello scare tactics and noone really cares.
Not true. I care and so do many others.

The Howard Government has had access to the Finance Department all year, but Labor could only start getting its policies assessed once the election was called !
Well, what have they been doing for the last five weeks?

Like i said Liberal needs to find another angle for the scare campaign no ones going to change votes because of this ,,,,,
Simply not true.

Your comments are not objective. There are still a lot of undecided voters out there - me among them - and Labor's apparent reluctance to have their policies costed by Treasury has a definite influence on how they/I feel.
 

Howards mate Richard Pratt donates lots of money to charity and the Libral Party , he also ripped off the Australia Public to the tune 400 to 700 million dollars , pleaded guilty and got fined a paltry 36 million dollars.
 
Hi Julia,


Thanks for pulling me up, sometimes i need a good slapping. Good points you made, Im sure there are some undecided who's decision will hinge on this, Labor has already submitted plenty for costing they will get there, but surely you can see Liberal has a huge advantage in both time and resources. About the only people i see dwelling on this issue are Liberal supporters, your about the only undecided ive come across to seem concerned.

Wonder how different the world would be if Gore beat Johnny's mate Bush ?

Thats kinda how i view this election.

Have a nice evening
 

I'm a bit loathe to buy into this, but here goes.

As I recall this issue of policies getting costed by treasury comes up every year. I think it is all a bit of a beat up. After all John Howard didn't cost Work Choices before his last election. As far as I can recall he didn't announce a policy to introduce it pre election. It was only after he got control of the senate that he went goodie goodie, and went beserke with these policies.

There is a lot of noise about can you trust wall to wall Labor. As a swinging voter, I am more concerned about a howard government with control of both houses in Canberra and what other radical policies might hit the table.

That's what turns me off him a lot, from once voting for him to now seriously considering giving Labour a go. His dishonesty over the handling of Iraq, the wheat board bribery scandal, children overboard etc, leaves him with little credability for me. I'm afraid he has turned out to be a bit of a cameleon, changing colour (policy) to please his audiance. I think many people won't forgive him this time, especially when there is a viable alternative.
 
I suggest you stop showing your ignorance and come to grips with what Labor put to the PM (as required under the Charter) on 30 October - which, incidentally, was very well covered by all Australian media outlets.
Is there something else you would like to know before I turn in for the evening?
 

No, but please have a good sleep.

I can learn nothing from you.
 
There are still a lot of undecided voters out there - me among them - and Labor's apparent reluctance to have their policies costed by Treasury has a definite influence on how they/I feel.
Julia
Labor sent its key policies in for costing, and began on 26 October.
The Charter only allows Finance/Treasury to cost policies after the PM puts government into caretaker mode.
There is no capacity for the Opposition to have Treasury/Finance cost their policies without the government's consent, and the PM's once caretaker mode is invoked.
My earlier posted link can provide all the info you need on this issue.
It's a great con job that you and others seemed to have been sucked into if you believe Labor has dodged "costings", and who exactly has been perpetuating it?
Not another scare tactic from the Libs, surely?
 
Here's a nice bit of rhetoric from the one... the only ... Bob Ellis on the ABC website. Pretty much sums up where I'm at with this mob... Full article linked above is worth a read - though rather bleak as Ellis tends to be - maybe he forgot to take his medication...again...

"In my late old age, and my darkening humanist despondency (I'm an extremist, fundamentalist, humanist fanatic, my son says unforgivingly but kindly), I've lately thought of issuing a T-shirt, and it reads:

'I think it's wrong to kill people; I think it's wrong to torture people, and wrong to hurt children. That's what I think. I'm a bleeding heart. How about you?'

Because this is all, in the end, a bleeding heart is, and the Right was very shrewd when it made that description of ordinary human decency seem so damning, so naive, so unrealistic in a world of regrettable necessities like the inadvertent killing of tens of thousands of children, and the torture of many with dogs and sleeplessness and simulated drowning.

So I'm a bleeding heart, and I believe in right and wrong. And better and worse.

How about you?"


and OOhhh - those big red letters (added by myself - not Bob) are REALLY scary aren't they ? ...:hide:..
>> Anyone else notice how many big red letters have been all over the TV in this campaign of cr#p? And of course which side those ads were coming from?

.... & yes - I'm a bleeding Heart too - guess I forgot my medication ... again....

Good riddance John.
 

There are refugees and then their are economic refugess who try to enter Australia by unlawful means, and are rightly denied entry, show me one of our SE Asian neighbours who by their own actions don't support this type of action.

Why should people who pay the most tax, get less benifets than people who pay the least tax....

What about Labour not costing their policys ????
 
What about Labour not costing their policys ????
Not so Superfly.

It is an interesting tactic though... say it often enough and someone is bound to believe you - irrespective of the facts.
hangseng can't learn from me
But I did offer a link above, and a fuller explanation below:
 
Not so Superfly.

It is an interesting tactic though... say it often enough and someone is bound to believe you - irrespective of the facts.
hangseng can't learn from me
But I did offer a link above, and a fuller explanation below:

So Labour only have to lodge their key policies and not all policies, why is that .... are we meant to just trust Saint Kevin that everything else is ok....

Hope people don't begin to turn a blind eye to Saint Kevin just because it's not John Howard.... and give the looney left a free ride to take Australia backwards again....

Or are we not meant to ask the hard questions about Labour, only about the Libs.....
 
A quote from the past .. . In the words of Treasurer Peter Costello "The Howard treasurership was not a success in terms of interest rates and inflation... he had not been a great reformer."

As for stating the current finances of the nation .. let's hope Howard has done that a little more accurately this time. (The fact is that Keating inherited from Howard an economy in poor shape and turned it around very dramatically).
 

...Agree 100%
 
Why should people who pay the most tax, get less benifets than people who pay the least tax....


lol typical attitude of staunch Liberal supporters and a result of Howards devisive policies.

Next youll be demanding a halt to foreign Aid, afterall Foreigners pay us no tax !

Im sure Liberals will be happy to hear that they are recommending Fat people pay more for Airline tickets because of the extra weight costs, maybe itll get extended to Concert tickets too for the extra room they inhabit ?

This penny pinching attitude thats surfacing and spreading is really quite sad, and in a historical context UnAustralian.

But we cant expect much more from the Liberal neoconservative mindset can we.
 
I spent 4 years studying finance at Melbourne University
There is something seriously wrong with our education system if you were able to graduate from University with such poor spelling and grammar.

m.
 
There is something seriously wrong with our education system if you were able to graduate from University with such poor spelling and grammar.

m.

its called the internet .. no 1 can spil or tipe properly on here! lol
 

Having been away from Oz for a few years , coming back periodically and now returned for good, I have notice a distinct increase in the prevalence of the un-Australian "I'm alright Jack" attitude, together with the American "show me the money" attitude.
I believe this has been fostered by Howard, Ruddock and Co. with their vote buying, cunning fear campaigns and endless smarmy vilification of downtrodden folks who need a fair go.

I - amongst many good Aussies I'm sure - am looking forward to a more compassionate Labor government to work on the traditional generosity, sympathy and empathy of the Australian people towards their brothers and sisters - both at home and abroad.

- Proud to have a bleeding heart.
 
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