Who are you voting for?

chops_a_must said:

Everyone over the age of 65 should not have the right to vote, given the increased risks of senility, early onset dimentia and parkinsons. This age could even be lowered because some people as young as 50 already suffer from these symptoms, albeit unrecognised to themselves and as yet, undiagnosed.

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hangseng said:

A long bow you draw there chops. Increased risk there may be, however also there are placed the wisest of sages we should be listening to and learning from. I learnt more from a dying man in his 80's than I ever did at school or uni. The same learnings that have aided and taken me through to the successes I enjoy today.

Your nic heading says it all "Can't Learn By Reading A Book!". What a shame most young people think this is how you learn what life is really about.

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chops_a_must said:

It's a quote from Howard! Ahahahahahaha! And most young people don't read books...

I've seen very few 80 year olds give any sort of solutions for the problems my generation will be facing.

The point was, and I wasn't being serious with what I said, I'm just demonstrating the absurdity of the position; that voting discrimination based on age is silly. Anyone handing out how to vote cards would know of people that have no idea who is Labor and who is Liberal, those are the people that shouldn't be allowed to vote.

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hangseng said:

"I've seen very few 80 year olds give any sort of solutions for the problems my generation will be facing."

So you believe they don't know what it is like to be young? The young should open their minds to what these people have to offer (and they have so much), instead of believing they already know it all and have 'been there done that'.

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hangseng said:

"I've seen very few 80 year olds give any sort of solutions for the problems my generation will be facing."

So you believe they don't know what it is like to be young? The young should open their minds to what these people have to offer (and they have so much), instead of believing they already know it all and have 'been there done that'.

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Wysiwyg said:

Life is all about how others see you.

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chops_a_must said:

Old people should look at what young people have to offer. It's a two way street...

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hangseng said:

I agree

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RichKid said:

The old believe everything. The middle-aged suspect everything. The young know everything. (Oscar Wilde)

After observing this recent exchange I wonder if Mr Wilde got it right?

.....but the die has been cast ladies and gentlemen, for the next term at least...

fwiw, everyone in society has a place and something to contribute, the young are often at the forefront of technological change- often to the benefit of the old (eg biotechnology). OTOH, I for one love reading biographies, many of the more enjoyable ones are written be those in the last quarter of their lifespan...and yes, they do have much to offer, certainly to this young man.

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numbercruncher said:

WOW - Rudd is having an effect on people already !!


Welcome to the new tolerant, cooperative , progressive Australia

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explod said:

I think there is some splitting of hairs a bit to turn arguments. The emergence of Latham handed the 04 election to Johnny on a plate.

This thread has turned into part of the true blue and born to rule line of desperation. Like the old tactics of the DLP many years ago. It failed then and will fail again.

People are looking for fresh air at a time when they sense difficult times ahead. Howard's speak is almost condescending and the rank and file always revolt against being put down.

The ALP will romp it in.

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Smurf1976 said:

I'm expecting a Labor win to be reasonably apparent around 8 - 9 pm but no official acceptance as such until maybe 10 -11. Just my guess of course.

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Julia said:

Good to see at least one young man has not succumbed to the arrogance displayed by some others on this thread. Thanks, Rich, for restoring the balance somewhat and displaying some civility and sense.

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hangseng said:

Labour are regressive and it will show again as it has done so many times before. I hope you don't own any uranium shares in Australian leasehold companies.

Watch Kevin Reynolds and Joe McDonald welcomed back to the Labour fold with all being forgiven. As they said "we're comin back"

Good luck.

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2020hindsight] question is said:

So it's ok to let the mad Moollars get the bomb ?...
...anti-Americanism from left voters....

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US Democrats call for change of course on Iran
Posted Tue Dec 4, 2007 6:08pm AEDT

The opposition Democrats in the United States have called for a rethink of policy towards Iran, now that it appears the Iranian Government is not trying to develop a nuclear weapon.

The latest National Intelligence Estimate says Iran stopped trying to develop a nuclear weapon in 2003.

In a sign of the pivotal importance this report might turn out to have, the Democrats have seized on it suggesting that it changes everything, or ought to.

Their leader in the Senate, Harry Reed, has called for a surge of diplomacy with Iran, an emulation of Ronald Reagan's engagement of the Soviet Union.

Such a view is easier to argue in the US after this report, wth its central finding that Iran had a nuclear weapons program but stopped it in 2003 and has probably not reinstated it.

- BBC

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