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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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Knobby22 said:
If you tell a lie big enough and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.
Human nature.
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It's not working for the dems is it. Truth eventually comes out.
The fact is every trump hater here ignores the truth when it eventually comes to light.

Meanwhile biden family corruption is still ignored.
 
Mo pointing out flaws, corruption, bad behavior, lying etc is not hate, please Trump and the Republicans provide endless material.
 
IFocus said:
Mo pointing out flaws, corruption, bad behavior, lying etc is not hate, please Trump and the Republicans provide endless material.
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Where did I say it wasn't ?

Using false information to spy on a presidential candidate is what? A big hug?

How many examples have there been of dems lying to garner support in a power move.
I'm not talking mud slinging. I'm talking abuse of the constitution, outright corruption and lies.

There is a long line of sht and lies from the dems. I've routinely pointed it out. None of you have once said "yep dems are wrong on this one". That's cult thinking.
I think trump is a shtbag capable of all kinds of nefarious deeds, but damn if he doesn't make me laugh. Biden looking like a shifty bastard after trump got impeached was a masterstroke.
Along with Pelosi looking like a nutter.

I reckon Bloomberg has a good chance of winning dems and the best bet against Trump.
Sanders would destroy the democrat party
 
I have indicated that my line is similar to yours. And the b:shite goes back years to when the democrats interfered in the governing of Ukraine to hold back Russian oil and gas to Europe.

I don't like Trump either but his line is obvious, the dems work in the dark side with the CIA/FBI
 
Trump will destroy the old guard on both sides and God knows it was due for a clean out. Not sure if what comes next is better or worse.
But truth be told; Obama and Bush were both terrible and led the US into huge problems.
China and Russia were pulling too far in front at the end of Obamas reign.

US politics are dirty and Trump (indirectly or not) has shone a light on the crap that goes on.
Even Pelosi pre ripping the speech shows every move is carefully scripted beforehand.

Hopefully he clears a good portion of the WH staff as well.
 
I find it interesting how passionately the entertainment industry subscribe to the left wing ideology. Seems to happen in every country, here USA UK etc must admit I don't understand why.

The arts really very heavily on Govt handouts and sponsorships from Industry yet they seem to rant against the very hands that feed them.

I guess when you live in a world of fantasy it is logical to be illogical
 

When they dig up past civilizations its the arts they look to when trying to work out how the society worked.

Conservative governments are notorious for cutting arts budgets.
 
IFocus said:
When they dig up past civilizations its the arts they look to when trying to work out how the society worked.

Conservative governments are notorious for cutting arts budgets.
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What are they going to dig up?
A copy of "Dude, where's my car?"
 
IFocus said:
Its the arts that define societies / culture and the like not politicians.
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On reading historical books it was common for artists to have patrons or live in residence at a castle while doing art work.

In the past it could have been an attempt at oneupmanship to have a beautiful painting or sculpture, so the sponsor foots the bill but owns the artwork

Not so in most cases today, the taxpayers pay and the artist keeps the profit, sounds like a good deal, why criticise the government for giving you free money.

I think it comes back to the welfare mentality, "it is my right to expect free money" quickly becomes a way of life
 
IFocus said:
Its the arts that define societies / culture and the like not politicians.
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The arts survive in concrete form, however ideas don't. Ideas are abstract.

Montaignes ideas survive because he wrote them down in a book, although it could be argued that the written word is art, the Essays could be argued to be at odds with the culture of the time. Equally it could be argued that Montaignes ideas lead to modern day enlightenment.

think about the ideas that are attempting to shape modern-day society, it is absolutely nothing to do with art and all to do with ideas.
 
Art is all about ideas and free expression. It's why regimes like Hitler closed them down. Monash uni recently joined the fine arts up with design and construction.

If we want to tame the youth we need to go back to free education with arts at the forefront and they will create their own way.

When studying at uni myself (was in the police Force then and allowed part time) I did a semester on graffiti which was growing around Melbourne then. The offenders were seeking something to do and attention. Some of the works were very clever. I could write a bl..dy book on the effects of art. It was behind both the development of ancient Greece and Roman architecture.

And about the abstraction Wayne ole Pal, I'm currently doing work that is exploring the frequency of sight across the picture plane. It works by colour and after image. Keeps my head young.
 
How the presidential pardon is (ab)used by The Don.

Trump commutes sentence of former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich
President also pardons former New York police commissioner Bernard Kerik and former San Francisco 49ers owner Edward DeBartolo

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ard-debartolo-jr-ex-san-francisco-49ers-owner

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One realises just how corrupt this creature is when you see the following response from Illanois Republicans to the decision.
I suspect the next post for Rod Blagojevich is assistant Attorney General
‘The Face of Public Corruption’: Illinois Republicans ‘Disappointed’ by Trump’s Pardon of Ex-Gov. Blagojevich
By Mairead McArdle

February 18, 2020 4:23 PM

Illinois Republicans expressed Tuesday that they are “disappointed” with President Trump’s decision to commute the sentence of former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich, who was removed from office and sentenced to prison on corruption charges over a decade ago.

“Blagojevich is the face of public corruption in Illinois, and not once has he shown any remorse for his clear and documented record of egregious crimes that undermined the trust placed in him by voters,” House Republicans from Illinois said in a statement.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news...inted-by-trumps-pardon-of-ex-gov-blagojevich/
 
wayneL said:


Comedy gold Bazz...zzz...zzz

You're a parody account, right?
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Indeed.. Wayne indeed.
I remember about 4500 posts ago posing the question "What would Donald Trump have to do to have you turn on him ? "

I already knew the answer of course.

Absolutely nothing. There is absolutely nothing this creature can or will do that you will ever think is so shameful, so wrong, so unprincipled that you think he has gone too far.
Your totally enthralled with him.
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Barr reportedly considers quitting as attorney general over Trump tweets

"I suspect the next post for Rod Blagojevich is assistant Attorney General"

I reckon I'm on the right track here. There are stories going round that Barr is getting close to jumping the AG role. Trump will need the services of a proven totally corrupt guy who owes him big time.

Perfect fit isn't it ? And when you the Big Cheese, Son of God, Master of the Universe and the most stable genius on Earth you need a neat rubber stamp to create Trumps Law.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-attorney-general-trump-tweet-quitting-report
 
It's actually a fair question.

Re Trump's tweets. Yes they are "unpresidential". And I have often remarked that yes he is a dick at times.

However I do understand the nuance of the reasons that he has taken this tac (tack, tak (sic)).

4d chess. Great spectator sport actually.

And when I look to his opponents, Bernie, fauxcahontas, and the other forgetable Marxists.

I'll take Trump, thanks.

And, there is other interesting stuff going on beneath the surface... Which you won't be pleased about. Awesome stuff.
 
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