Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

Human perfection doesn't exist.

We missed Neil Armstrong at the 50th anniversary of the moon landing due to a stuff up at a USA private hospital.

In the US you sometimes have to make the choice of sending your family into poverty or dying gracefully due to drug costs.

The average Australian lives to 82.5, 6 years longer than a USA person, that is mainly due to our health system.
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...ancy-at-birth-among-comparable-countries_2019

Knobby22 said:

Human perfection doesn't exist.

We missed Neil Armstrong at the 50th anniversary of the moon landing due to a stuff up at a USA private hospital.

In the US you sometimes have to make the choice of sending your family into poverty or dying gracefully due to drug costs.

The average Australian lives to 82.5, 6 years longer than a USA person, that is mainly due to our health system.
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...ancy-at-birth-among-comparable-countries_2019

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Irony is the US has the best tech and education for health services but treat it as a business enterprise not a service to the people of the country.

The falling life expectancy has been talked about for awhile.

Surprised at MO's experiences here in WA friends and family have long used the public system with nothing but praise particularly emergency wards although waiting times have been a problem.

IFocus said:

Irony is the US has the best tech and education for health services but treat it as a business enterprise not a service to the people of the country.

The falling life expectancy has been talked about for awhile.

Surprised at MO's experiences here in WA friends and family have long used the public system with nothing but praise particularly emergency wards although waiting times have been a problem.

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The birth of a child in Brisbane hospital was really good. But apparently after that they had some kind of scandal there.

Nsw I have hundreds of horror stories. General practitioners just dole out antibiotics. Crap diagnosis reigns supreme.

moXJO said:

The birth of a child in Brisbane hospital was really good. But apparently after that they had some kind of scandal there.

Nsw I have hundreds of horror stories. General practitioners just dole out antibiotics. Crap diagnosis reigns supreme.

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What gets me is people spend more time choosing a panel beater than a GP
I use a very good GP there’s plenty out there

The Don. His fantasies vs what actually happens

'No Blame?' ABC News finds 36 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility for inciting violence in American communities, dismissing critics who have pointed to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration for some citizens acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.

"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.

But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 36 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.

In nine cases, perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically attacking innocent victims. In another 10 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.

(MORE: 7 key questions about the threat of domestic terrorism in America)
Seven cases involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases -- 29 of the 36 -- reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.

ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.

The 36 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt.

In many cases of assault or threat, charges are never filed, perpetrators are never identified or the incident is never even reported to authorities. And most criminal acts committed by Trump supporters or his detractors have nothing to do with the president. But in 36 cases, court records and police reports indicated some sort of link.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=58912889

basilio said:

The Don. His fantasies vs what actually happens

'No Blame?' ABC News finds 36 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility for inciting violence in American communities, dismissing critics who have pointed to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration for some citizens acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.

"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.

But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 36 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.

In nine cases, perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically attacking innocent victims. In another 10 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.

(MORE: 7 key questions about the threat of domestic terrorism in America)
Seven cases involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases -- 29 of the 36 -- reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.

ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.

The 36 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt.

In many cases of assault or threat, charges are never filed, perpetrators are never identified or the incident is never even reported to authorities. And most criminal acts committed by Trump supporters or his detractors have nothing to do with the president. But in 36 cases, court records and police reports indicated some sort of link.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=58912889

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Any idea how many trump supporters or maga hat wearing hicks have been assaulted because of democrats spouting violence against trump?

Nazi labels (amongst a whole heap of name calling) at trump supporters, which led to acts of violence?

How about Hollywood having to axe the opening of the movie "The Hunt" because it depicted champagne sipping elites hunting "Deplorables" after that leftist shot up a bunch of people.
Or Hollywood in general making multiple threats against anyone supporting Trump.
Or campus how many attacks there?

This is just the latest tactic to try and gain traction before 2020.
And its been a long list of bs spin from the media and democrats.

Democrats and the left in the US have become fascists.
Cutting out opposing voices via media, internet, news, government, violent mobs.
Making sure you think a certain way, vote a certain way. Otherwise you will lose customers as a recent democrat candidate did by releasing Trumps donor list. There was a coordinated crowd outside premises next day.
Or your job as countless Republican supporters have.
Or you will be harassed and attacked by violent leftist groups.

Trump has issues, but the other side are headcases....

Humid said:

What gets me is people spend more time choosing a panel beater than a GP
I use a very good GP there’s plenty out there

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Ones I use to go to are now booked out. Others move. Some everyone recommend and you find out they are just as clueless.
"Good" can be very subjective.

Humiliation for Trump as reality bites
the age

NEW YORK: The moment finally arrived, inevitable but nevertheless remarkable. Donald Trump’s trade policies collided with economic reality. On Tuesday, US time, the American President announced he would delay tariffs on hundreds of millions of dollars of Chinese goods due to take effect in September.

It was a momentous retreat given Trump’s repeated insistence that tariffs operate as a tax on China and do not harm US consumers.

‘‘ Don’t let them tell you, the fact is

– China devalues their currency, they pour money into their system. Because of that, you’re not paying for those tariffs. China’s paying for those tariffs,’’ he said earlier this month. ‘‘ Until such time as there is a deal, we will be taxing the hell out of China.’’

It’s a claim Trump has repeated time and again, but is untrue. It is accurate to say his tariffs have weakened China’s economy. They have reduced US demand for Chinese products and encouraged companies to shift production offshore.

But the fact remains: the tariffs are paid by American companies, which pass on some or all of the cost to their consumers. So far, it has been hard for ordinary Americans to see the economic impact of the tariffs. The early rounds focused on industrial goods such as tractors, chemicals and aircraft engines.

That would have changed with Trump’s next round of tariffs. This 10 per cent impost would apply to $US300 billion ($440 billion) of goods including clothes, toys, footwear, laptops and mobile phones. The National Retailers Federation warned Trump he was ‘‘ doubling-down on a flawed tariff strategy that is already slowing US economic growth, creating uncertainty and discouraging investment’’ . Andrew Collier, managing director of Orient Capital Research, said the President was holding ‘‘ a sword at the throat of the American economy’’ .

Trump announced the tariffs on August 1. Just 12 days later he folded. His administration announced it was delaying most of the tariffs until December and was dropping others altogether. ‘‘ We’re doing this for the Christmas season,’’ Trump told reporters. ‘‘ Just in case some of the tariffs would have an impact on US customers.’’

His actions spoke louder than his words. This was a clear admission from Trump that he can only expand his trade war so far without causing serious damage to the US economy.

The sharemarket soared following his announcement.

But the structural issues underlying the US-China trade dispute remain unsolved.

‘‘ We are all just one tweet away from significant volatility,” wrote Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at accounting firm RSM, in a note to clients. ‘‘ The idea that this is a major source of relief to the economy is not tethered to empirical reality.’’

The self-proclaimed master dealmaker has capitulated without extracting anything from his adversaries. Trump may have saved Christmas, but he lost a lot of face. So much for his famous claim, ‘‘ Trade wars are good, and easy to win.’’

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The new normal in the US . Multiple right wing extremists plotting massacres in the name of white nationalism and their " learless feeder" Donald Trump.

Police thwarted six mass shootings and white supremacist attacks since El Paso
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Several of the alleged foiled plots appeared to involve men espousing far-right viewpoints and racist ideologies

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In the two weeks since a gunman killed 22 people in El Paso, law enforcement officials say they have thwarted six separate mass shootings or white supremacist attacks across the US.

At least four of the alleged foiled plots also appeared to involve men espousing far-right viewpoints and racist ideologies, with echoes of the Texas massacre. The 21-year-old suspect in that shooting, considered the deadliest anti-Latino attack in modern US history, allegedly authored a racist anti-immigrant “manifesto”.

In online posts and in their alleged planned massacres, the suspects in these recent cases targeted LGBTQ people, Jewish people, black Americans, Latinos and Muslims, according to law enforcement and media reports on the six men. Four of them were white men in their 20s, and all but one of them were believed to be armed, some with extensive weaponry.

Example
20 August, Florida and Tennessee

US authorities announced on Tuesday the arrest of Maryland resident Eric Lin, 35, who had allegedly made a series of social media threats against Hispanics in the Miami area. On Facebook, he threatened a Hispanic woman and her family, praised Hitler, and called for the extermination of Spanish-speaking people, Muslims and black Americans, the FBI said.

He also allegedly wrote, “I Thank God everyday President Donald John Trump is President”, saying he expected Trump to launch a racist war.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/20/el-paso-shooting-plot-white-supremacist-attacks
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/...exterminate-miami-hispanics-fbi-says-11247579

From Tom Luongo is an independent political and economic analyst based in North Florida, USA:

If you listen to Trump carefully, seeing him for what he is not what you think he is, what you want him to be or, most importantly, what he wants you to see, you hear a man who fully believes the Fed controls the economy.

You hear a man that firmly believes in the power of the government to remake the world in whatever image it wants, whenever it wants. You hear a man so solipsistic he can only see the world in terms he defined more than thirty years ago.

You hear a man who fundamentally doesn’t believe trade results in both sides winning but that everyone either wins a deal or loses. If he didn’t extract maximum pain from the other side he ‘lost.’ It’s the source of Trump’s inherent mercantilism.

And that fault in Donald Trump’s character is leading him to ever more extreme behavior as he refuses to reconcile the world we have versus the world he wants. So he keeps pressuring, embarrassing and humiliating people he wants to make deals with. And when they refuse to do so, he explodes and, like a child who didn’t get his cookie, uses the power of the Presidency to still try to get what he wants.

Trump’s not a multi-dimensional analyst. He isn’t a 4-d chess player. He’s actually a very simple creature. He believes the crap spewed by CNBC. He’s hired advisers who worked there for pity’s sake.
(There is also a few good points about how keeping rates high hurts China, article is worth a read).

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...o+zero)&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner

Knobby22 said:

From Tom Luongo is an independent political and economic analyst based in North Florida, USA:

If you listen to Trump carefully, seeing him for what he is not what you think he is, what you want him to be or, most importantly, what he wants you to see, you hear a man who fully believes the Fed controls the economy.

You hear a man that firmly believes in the power of the government to remake the world in whatever image it wants, whenever it wants. You hear a man so solipsistic he can only see the world in terms he defined more than thirty years ago.

You hear a man who fundamentally doesn’t believe trade results in both sides winning but that everyone either wins a deal or loses. If he didn’t extract maximum pain from the other side he ‘lost.’ It’s the source of Trump’s inherent mercantilism.

And that fault in Donald Trump’s character is leading him to ever more extreme behavior as he refuses to reconcile the world we have versus the world he wants. So he keeps pressuring, embarrassing and humiliating people he wants to make deals with. And when they refuse to do so, he explodes and, like a child who didn’t get his cookie, uses the power of the Presidency to still try to get what he wants.

Trump’s not a multi-dimensional analyst. He isn’t a 4-d chess player. He’s actually a very simple creature. He believes the crap spewed by CNBC. He’s hired advisers who worked there for pity’s sake.
(There is also a few good points about how keeping rates high hurts China, article is worth a read).

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...o+zero)&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner

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TDS. Specious, yet demonstrably false nonsense.

wayneL said:

TDS. Specious, yet demonstrably false nonsense.

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Demonstrate it.

Trump may have his heart in the right space but he is all over the shop when it comes to tactics.
why fight with India while you are fighting with China for instance?
why lie like he did just yesterday regarding china ringing him for a deal?
why vacillate so much? It seems to me his attitude is how he awakens that day.

I think Trump's main focus is how to make himself richer after leaving office.

Sucking up to Russia to get a few deals through for himself later on. He knows that's the way Putin works too. I don't think he's interested in another term as long as he can do a few deals on the side.

Knobby22 said:

Demonstrate it.

Trump may have his heart in the right space but he is all over the shop when it comes to tactics.
why fight with India while you are fighting with China for instance?
why lie like he did just yesterday regarding china ringing him for a deal?
why vacillate so much? It seems to me his attitude is how he awakens that day.

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If you're objective, you will realise that it's the MSM that is all over the goddam shop.

Admittedly facilitated by the God/Emporer, who is playing them for fools.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...-at-the-next-us-election-20190826-p52kxo.html

From the article:
Support for a Democratic president ranges from 41 per cent among all Australians, and 53 pe cent and 57 per cent among Labor and Greens voters.
That makes sense, I was wondering what all the anti Trump media coverage was about.

Probably the best comment I've seen:

"Trump is a litmus test for batshyt crazy and the crazy self-identify themselves often and repeatedly."

It amazes me how much he infuriates people. This is just the usual US president without the filter attached.
Did people just not notice what the last three presidents did?

moXJO said:

Probably the best comment I've seen:

"Trump is a litmus test for batshyt crazy and the crazy self-identify themselves often and repeatedly."

It amazes me how much he infuriates people. This is just the usual US president without the filter attached.
Did people just not notice what the last three presidents did?

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I like "Trump is the US unmasked"

Fake news



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/04/trump-hurricane-dorian-alabama-sharpie-map

Talking about sources of fake news, I see Arabella Advisors finally was outed.

moXJO said:

Did people just not notice what the last three presidents did?

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Hmmn... What I didn't notice was examples of past presidents making totally wrong statements about hurricane weather warnings (which incidentally started a panic in Alabama) , being corrected by the National Weather Bureau, then denying he was wrong and THEN, using a weather bureau advisory picture on TV with a hand drawn extra loop to justify the stupidity and lying he had engaged in.

This is classic . This guy could walk down 5th Avenue , blow the brains out a random dude and then deny it with enough brazenness to get a medal. (Particularly if he as giving out the medals.)

Trump shows fake hurricane map in apparent bid to validate incorrect tweet

• Trump points to map with black loop extending hurricane’s path
• President made baseless claim that Alabama would be affected

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/04/trump-hurricane-dorian-alabama-sharpie-map