Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

Tisme · 26 September 2018

UN claims:

"The stock market is at an all-time high in history" = true
"Jobless claims are at a 50-year low" = true
"African American, Hispanic American, and Asian American unemployment have all achieved their lowest levels ever recorded" = true
"We have added more than 4 million new jobs, including half a million manufacturing jobs" = true
"We have started the construction of a major border wall." = true
"The missiles and rockets are no longer flying in every direction [in North Korea]. Nuclear testing has stopped. Some military facilities are already being dismantled." = true
"In the year since the [Iran] deal has been reached, the military budget grew nearly 40 percent." = true

CanOz · 26 September 2018

How do you explain "America is richer"?

Kerway · 26 September 2018

I can understand all the personal dislike for Trump. I feel the same way. The criticism of his record so far is less logical.

sptrawler · 26 September 2018

CanOz said:
How do you explain "America is richer"?

They are putting up interest rates, they haven't been able to do that for 10years, because no one could pay anyway.
So it follows, they wouldn't be putting them up, if people still couldn't pay them.
Don't confuse richer, with how much money people have, most spend everything.
All interest rates going up tells you, is people can now take on more debt, to buy more $hit they don't need again.

luutzu · 26 September 2018

Tisme said:
UN claims:

"The stock market is at an all-time high in history" = true
"Jobless claims are at a 50-year low" = true
"African American, Hispanic American, and Asian American unemployment have all achieved their lowest levels ever recorded" = true
"We have added more than 4 million new jobs, including half a million manufacturing jobs" = true
"We have started the construction of a major border wall." = true
"The missiles and rockets are no longer flying in every direction [in North Korea]. Nuclear testing has stopped. Some military facilities are already being dismantled." = true
"In the year since the [Iran] deal has been reached, the military budget grew nearly 40 percent." = true

Assuming they're "true". It's still like claiming that the sun rises each day since he became president it therefore most be him that made the sun rise.

Did he made possible all that goodness? No.

Maybe jobless claims are low not because there's more jobs and more employed people. It's low because he freakin remove anything to claim for. Hence it's low.

They haven't started "construction" on a wall. They are building a few prototype to demo what the wall would look like. That's not "started" anything.

North and South Korea are doing peace talks despite the US. It was the South's president that pushes for peace talks. And he did it without first consulting the colony's governor and masters too.

It'd then be bad PR to overthrow or bomb the place so Trump jumps in to take credit.

But unification of the two Koreas will not happen. China, Russia and the US will not permit it.

sptrawler · 26 September 2018

luutzu said:
Assuming they're "true". It's still like claiming that the sun rises each day since he became president it therefore most be him that made the sun rise.

Did he made possible all that goodness? No.

Maybe jobless claims are low not because there's more jobs and more employed people. It's low because he freakin remove anything to claim for. Hence it's low.

They haven't started "construction" on a wall. They are building a few prototype to demo what the wall would look like. That's not "started" anything.

North and South Korea are doing peace talks despite the US. It was the South's president that pushes for peace talks. And he did it without first consulting the colony's governor and masters too.

It'd then be bad PR to overthrow or bomb the place so Trump jumps in to take credit.

But unification of the two Koreas will not happen. China, Russia and the US will not permit it.

Not wanting to be negative, but the post doesn't have the hard hitting comments, you normally put forward. It's probably late at night.
If North and South Korea were having peace talks, despite Trump, they would have been having them a few years ago. Nothing but Trump, has changed.
If the unification of North and South Korea happens, will you stop bagging everything. lol

moXJO · 26 September 2018

Junior said:
I think you're overestimating Trump, if you think there's any logic, strategy or reasoning behind his decision-making.

The guy watches Fox & Friends and then tweets out a new policy based on what he saw on TV. He doesn't read. It's reported that he watches 8 hours of TV a day, and refuses to go to work before 10am. He has no relevant prior experience for the job.

I've got mates in the $100 million range worth businesses and real estate .

Dumb as dogshit to most academics. They hire all the smart people and put em on a wage.

They ain't afraid to do what needs to be done. Its about getting results.

If I wanted intelligent sounding powder puffs I would have backed Obama.

luutzu · 26 September 2018

sptrawler said:
Not wanting to be negative, but the post doesn't have the hard hitting comments, you normally put forward. It's probably late at night.
If North and South Korea were having peace talks, despite Trump, they would have been having them a few years ago. Nothing but Trump, has changed.
If the unification of North and South Korea happens, will you stop bagging everything. lol

Busy watching YouTube to figure out how to use Adobe Premiere etc. to animate promo videos and other documentation. It's doing my head in.

moXJO · 26 September 2018

luutzu said:
Busy watching YouTube to figure out how to use Adobe Premiere etc. to animate promo videos and other documentation. It's doing my head in.

Put it on airtasker.

luutzu · 26 September 2018

moXJO said:
Put it on airtasker.

It'll take longer to explain what I wanted. That and I'm a cheap azz so the quality I want vs the price I'm willing to pay won't match up.

sptrawler · 26 September 2018

luutzu said:
It'll take longer to explain what I wanted. That and I'm a cheap azz so the quality I want vs the price I'm willing to pay won't match up.

Just employ one of them talented young people, to do it for you, spread the love and the wealth.
So they can improve their talents and maybe get into that housing market.
Help those that you worry so much about. lol

luutzu · 26 September 2018

sptrawler said:
Just employ one of them talented young people, to do it for you, spread the love and the wealth.
So they can improve their talents and maybe get into that housing market.
Help those that you worry so much about. lol

Need money first. Sending hope and prayers will have to do for now

Like I often told my wife... I hope we don't become rich a-holes one day. To which she reminds me, let's worry about being not-poor first... cross that bridge when we get there.

Tisme · 27 September 2018

luutzu said:
Assuming they're "true". It's still like claiming that the sun rises each day since he became president it therefore most be him that made the sun rise.

Did he made possible all that goodness? No.

Maybe jobless claims are low not because there's more jobs and more employed people. It's low because he freakin remove anything to claim for. Hence it's low.

They haven't started "construction" on a wall. They are building a few prototype to demo what the wall would look like. That's not "started" anything.

North and South Korea are doing peace talks despite the US. It was the South's president that pushes for peace talks. And he did it without first consulting the colony's governor and masters too.

It'd then be bad PR to overthrow or bomb the place so Trump jumps in to take credit.

But unification of the two Koreas will not happen. China, Russia and the US will not permit it.

My post wasn't put there for an argument, just for factual purposes to point out that faux laughter from the members of the junior nations present may lack merit.

The Europeans might think they can insult the US president with gaffaws etc, but they will be the ones cowtailing to the US demands for better trade deals and military protection. He'll have his staff at it already identifying who was taking the piss and sanction will happen, for sure.

This time next year will be interesting to see if China can keep up with US economic expansionism.

Darc Knight · 27 September 2018

Tisme said:
. He'll have his staff at it already identifying who was taking the piss and sanction will happen, for sure.

Sounds more like Mugabe or some other human rights violator.

Knobby22 · 27 September 2018

Tisme said:
The Europeans might think they can insult the US president with gaffaws etc, but they will be the ones cowtailing to the US demands for better trade deals and military protection. He'll have his staff at it already identifying who was taking the piss and sanction will happen, for sure.
.

Your arguments on his greatness show you are in his headspace. I therefore think you are right on this.
The French are in big trouble with him in particular. They practically told him his mother wears army boots.

IFocus · 27 September 2018

Stole this from somewhere else, remember the US is the richest nation in the world.

The highest inequality in the developed world, parlous levels of equality of opportunity for large sections of society. A health 'system' that abandons ill people to an early death or bankrupts them to pay for a medical procedure. Add to this, chronic levels of poverty and homelessness.

High levels of insecurity in work and minimal employment rights for very many, high levels of personal debt and all out assault on environmental regulations and quality of life by the administration that seems to despise anything even distantly related to the natural world.

An underfunded education system which is about the lowest ranked in the developed world and a racial divide which is more than an embarrassment; it's a disgrace.

The country's infrastructure is an international joke as much of it it hasn't been renewed in eighty plus years.

The reality for so many Americans is pretty bleak.

Tisme · 27 September 2018

Darc Knight said:
Sounds more like Mugabe or some other human rights violator.

Sounds like business etiquette to me

Tisme · 27 September 2018

IFocus said:
Stole this from somewhere else, remember the US is the richest nation in the world.

The highest inequality in the developed world, parlous levels of equality of opportunity for large sections of society. A health 'system' that abandons ill people to an early death or bankrupts them to pay for a medical procedure. Add to this, chronic levels of poverty and homelessness.

High levels of insecurity in work and minimal employment rights for very many, high levels of personal debt and all out assault on environmental regulations and quality of life by the administration that seems to despise anything even distantly related to the natural world.

An underfunded education system which is about the lowest ranked in the developed world and a racial divide which is more than an embarrassment; it's a disgrace.

The country's infrastructure is an international joke as much of it it hasn't been renewed in eighty plus years.

The reality for so many Americans is pretty bleak.

Every time I go there I lament how the population accept the lack of social systems we have here, but they seem to accept it as the good life. I guess a large % of the citizens don't know any better and prefer to believe the patriotism hammered into them cradle to grave.

luutzu · 27 September 2018

Tisme said:
My post wasn't put there for an argument, just for factual purposes to point out that faux laughter from the members of the junior nations present may lack merit.

The Europeans might think they can insult the US president with gaffaws etc, but they will be the ones cowtailing to the US demands for better trade deals and military protection. He'll have his staff at it already identifying who was taking the piss and sanction will happen, for sure.

This time next year will be interesting to see if China can keep up with US economic expansionism.

You have to put emojis with satire.

Heard that the EU, Russia and China are ganging up against the US by setting up some sort of financial dome where their corporations can do business with Iran without being sanctioned by the US.

Old Europe used to just take orders. Now they're working with enemies to work with an enemy?

In other news, Russia is deploying their S300 [?] anti-aircraft missile defense system to Syria. Something Israel had asked them not to a few years back.

But since the downing of a Russian spy plan where, it is alledged, Israeli jets flew a sortie over Syria without much warning to the Russian, Assad's surface to air missile let go a few rounds... to which the Israeli hid behind a Russian spy plane, causing 15 Russian death.

Now, either Israel will have to limit their defense against Iran in Syria to a few unarmed Syrians... or keep up the weekly drop and potentially bringing in the US, the EU, Russia smack bang, no pssy footing, boots and all, into Syria... then Tehran.

If you're a crazy warmongering idiot, you'd be thinking that since Trump is a once in a lifetime chance for Armageddon (or regional hegemony, whichever comes first)... and since he might not have a second term... better sacrifice a few pawns quickly to mourn and avenge.

Tisme · 27 September 2018

Knobby22 said:
Your arguments on his greatness show you are in his headspace. I therefore think you are right on this.
The French are in big trouble with him in particular. They practically told him his mother wears army boots.

Truth is I think his entertainment value is much better than our local political leaders. We are outsiders looking into a culture that is different to ours, but over there they seem to enjoy the constant imbroglios of politics, race, religion, etc. as if it's part of a serial movie.

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