Tisme
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You think Jina will be happy the Yanks have military access to their neighbour North Korea?
It's a big change in word affairs.
Unpaid security service? More than a thousand non US troops have died in Afghanistan alone fighting for US interests. Plus 40 Australians. (Sheet happens, apparently)
Any debt we owe the US has been well and truly discharged by now.
Unfortunate that's not the end of it.
If, say, the US decided to take on China. Australians will have to join that fight whether we like to or not.
China might just want the US to unlock N Korea so it can do a land grab itself:
remember the guy who wanted to march into China:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/douglasmacarthurfarewelladdress.htm
Doubtful if the US will take on China with conventional weapons, certainly not soldiers. More likely with nukes.
They wouldn't use nukes. Thats last last resort or if there is danger of a first strike. Fallout potentially would affect neighboring allies as well.Doubtful if the US will take on China with conventional weapons, certainly not soldiers. More likely with nukes.
I don't think it would come to that though.
Interesting persective, sans action-consequence analysis.If it gets to that point then we're all screwed. China would sink a carrier fleet in about twenty minutes in a real war on China's doorstep.
Lil' Rocket Man seems to have gotten some amazing concessions. No more war games, a formal peace treaty in the offing and Trump talking about removing US troops from SK. And all that LRM had to signup for was a vague agreement to denuclearise the Korean peninsula and repatriate the remains of US troops from the Korean war. It made good TV (which I think was the point) and I hope it leads to a positive outcome, but who knows, it's not like we haven't been here before. Kim is definitely more market orientated than his father and grandfather, his willingness to leave NK to travel to Singapore signals more of a change than anything else, imo. Maybe he intends to cut himself more in the mould of Putin than Stalin.
Pyonghattan is actually a thing these days...I was there in 2006, it reads like a totally different city to the one I visited.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7028f7f8675b
Interesting persective, sans action-consequence analysis.
If it gets to that point then we're all screwed. China would sink a carrier fleet in about twenty minutes in a real war on China's doorstep.
Lil' Rocket Man seems to have gotten some amazing concessions. No more war games, a formal peace treaty in the offing and Trump talking about removing US troops from SK. And all that LRM had to signup for was a vague agreement to denuclearise the Korean peninsula and repatriate the remains of US troops from the Korean war. It made good TV (which I think was the point) and I hope it leads to a positive outcome, but who knows, it's not like we haven't been here before. Kim is definitely more market orientated than his father and grandfather, his willingness to leave NK to travel to Singapore signals more of a change than anything else, imo. Maybe he intends to cut himself more in the mould of Putin than Stalin.
Pyonghattan is actually a thing these days...I was there in 2006, it reads like a totally different city to the one I visited.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7028f7f8675b
The USA would love to leave South Korea, the cost is enormous. A peace treaty suits all parties if it can be pulled off
The South Koreans would be nervous if the US pulled its troops out. A NK invasion with the assistance of China would then be a possibility. Would the US take on NK and China in South Korea ?
Unlikely IMO.
Funnily enough, that is exactly what was said, before the Vietnam war. If North Vietnam take over South Vietnam, the commies will get in and it will be the end of SE Asia.
Did it?
Did what ?
Are you saying the South Koreans wouldn't be nervous if the US pulled out of South Korea ?
I wouldn't know how the South Koreans feel about it.Did what ?
Are you saying the South Koreans wouldn't be nervous if the US pulled out of South Korea ?
Did what ?
Who knows, maybe North and South Korea want to unite peacefully?
South Koreans want to unite with a guy that murders his own family and throws tens of thousands of its citizens into slavery and hunger ?
Yeah, right.
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