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Yes I agree (surprise !).

The rich and powerful facists don't like any threat to their riches and power and will do anything they can to destroy those threats.

We see it all the time here with Murdoch + Singleton vs the Labor Party
 
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How easily will the millions of people who have swallowed the "Crooked Hilary" lies hook, line etc reconsider their views?

And how readily will they reconsider their support for Donald Trump with a rapidly increasing list of law suits, exposes, family junkets coming out ?

Checkout Russian Roulette.

Russian Roulette review: as Joe Biden said, 'If this is true, it's treason'
Michael Isikoff and David Corn lay bare the evidence that Trump and Putin have been striving to collaborate for years

Tue 20 Mar 2018 14.03 EDT First published on Tue 20 Mar 2018 02.00 EDT


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Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump share a moment in Vietnam. Photograph: Mikhail Klimentyev/Tass
Whenever I finish a book like Russian Roulette, I ask myself the same question: why is anyone still debating whether there was collusion between the Russians and Donald Trump?


It was 2013 when Trump first tweeted that he wanted to be Putin’s “best friend”. Later he told Fox Putin looked “like a great leader”. Putin’s constant goals have been to destroy Nato and the EU. Trump was a big advocate of Brexit, which was a body blow to the EU, and in the 2016 campaign he called Nato “obsolete”. Trump began visiting Moscow in 1987 and his on again, off again effort to build a Trump Tower there continued for three decades – right through the presidential election.

In 2006, Trump became executive producer of a Russian version of The Apprentice. Years later he dismissed the massive evidence that Putin routinely orders the murder of journalists and other dissidents, telling MSNBC: “I haven’t seen that. I don’t know that he has. Have you been able to prove that?”

Then of course there’s the Palm Beach estate he bought for $45m in 2004. After the housing bubble burst, he sold that house for $95m – to a Russian oligarch, Dmitry Rybolovlev.

Nearly all the other stations of the twisted Trump-Russian cross are covered here, including the famous Trump Tower meeting between Russian emissaries and Donald Trump Jr, Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner. Although the Russians failed at that moment to produce promised dirt on Hillary Clinton, the authors point out that “Trump’s senior advisers now had new reason to believe that Putin’s regime wanted Trump to win and was willing to act clandestinely to boost his chances. The campaign did not report this private Russian outreach to the FBI.”

Russian government officials, Corn and Isikoff write, could well have “interpreted that as a signal that Trump would not mind or protest if Moscow took other actions to benefit the Republican candidate. The Russians had offered to help, and Trump’s campaign had demonstrated a willingness to take what Moscow had to offer.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/mar/20/russian-roulette-review-donald-trump-joe-biden-treason
 
basilio said:
Can't add anything more to that denouncement.

Will be fascinating to see the Fox response.
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“Ralph Peters is entitled to his opinion despite the fact that he's choosing to use it as a weapon in order to gain attention. We are extremely proud of our top-rated primetime hosts and all of our opinion programing,” Fox News said in a statement.

Actually, the following is a better link that the one I gave.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/ralph-peters?utm_term=.ia9g44WDqK#.ba4XzzWdGQ
 
basilio said:
How easily will the millions of people who have swallowed the "Crooked Hilary" lies hook, line etc reconsider their views?
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Don't expect anything from them other than to use Trump's mantra: "It's fake news"
 

Seems strange to me that joyless social engineers like the Guardian, etc are so poisonous towards Trump, when it is they who advocate a world without borders, but take umbrage at world citizens.
 
basilio said:
Can't add anything more to that denouncement.

Will be fascinating to see the Fox response.
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"Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration," wrote Ralph Peters, a Fox News "strategic analyst."

Ummm, so he's complaining that Fox News was legitimate at some stage ....when would that have been?
 

When, you know, the president was more polite and not so openly corrupt.

For example, when Jr. and Darth invade Iraq "for freedom" instead of "take the oil";

When all admin quietly tell Saudi Arabia to buy billions upon billions of weapons and jets instead of telling them to do the same now but also have a show-and-tell session to the mass media: Oh look, this young prince is buying this billions in those wonderful bombers; more billions in these fighter jets.. and I'm telling you, we make the best weapons there is in the world.

Come on man, you don't say that stuff outloud like that. Not when there are some public awareness of starving Yemeni being blockaded and bombed with those weapons.

 
The difference between Fox News and the our abc is you can choose not to pay for it!
 
Another day another dizzy range of "it can only be Trump" stories.

1) The non surprise exit of HR Mcmaster as Donald Trumps national security advisor to be replaced by superhawk John Bolton

John Bolton to replace McMaster as Trump's national security adviser
  • Trump announces McMaster’s departure on Twitter
  • Former UN ambassador John Bolton named as replacement
Ed Pilkington in New York and Julian Borger in Washington

Thu 22 Mar 2018 19.42 EDT First published on Thu 22 Mar 2018 18.38 EDT


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HR McMaster at the White House earlier this week. His departure had been on the cards for some weeks. Photograph: Getty Images
HR McMaster has resigned as Donald Trump’s national security adviser and will be replaced by John Bolton, the hawkish former US ambassador to the United Nations, the president announced on Thursday night.

Bolton has advocated using military force against Iran and North Korea and has taken a hard line against Russia.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...onald-trump-national-security-adviser-resigns
 
2) Trumps attorney also pulls the plug on defending the Don as Muellers team closes in.

I love the president': John Dowd quits as Trump lawyer in Mueller investigation
  • 77-year-old lead attorney confirms exit from White House team
  • Dowd said on Saturday he hoped Russia investigation would end
John Dowd, Donald Trump’s lead lawyer in the Mueller investigation into Russian election interference and alleged links between Trump aides and Moscow, resigned his role on Thursday while protesting his “love” for the president.

In an email to the Guardian, Dowd confirmed his departure and said: “I love the president and wish him well.”

The 77-year-old left Trump’s legal team days after the hiring of Joseph DiGenova, a cable news commentator and former US attorney who has claimed the Mueller investigation is an attempt to frame the president, carried out by the FBI and Department of Justice.

The shake-up comes with special counsel Robert Mueller reportedly closing in on an interview with Trump and less than two weeks after the president insisted on Twitter he was “VERY happy” with his legal team and said his lawyers were “doing a great job”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/22/john-dowd-donald-trump-mueller-resigns
 
3) The World Trade War got off to a flying start with China announcing it's response to Donald Trumps tariff measures. The stock markets are suitably impessed.

China promises to hit US with tariffs as stocks plunge amid fear of trade war
Asian shares fall after Donald Trump’s announcement of higher duties on Chinese imports, as Beijing appeals for talks

Martin Farrer and Benjamin Haas

Thu 22 Mar 2018 22.04 EDT First published on Thu 22 Mar 2018 21.35 EDT


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Asian markets fell sharply on Friday after a 3% in the Dow Jones in New York. Photograph: Xinhua/REX/Shutterstock
China has retaliated against Donald Trump’s decision to impose tariffs on steel and aluminium by signalling that it will hit US goods such as pork, apples and steel pipe with higher duties.

As Asian stock markets plunged at the prospect of a trade war between the world’s two biggest economies, China’s commerce ministry urged Washington to negotiate a settlement as soon as possible but set no deadline.

A ministry statement on Friday said the higher US tariffs “seriously undermine” the global trading system.

“The Chinese side urges the US side to resolve the concerns of the Chinese side as soon as possible,” the ministry said. It appealed for dialogue “to avoid damage to overall Chinese-US cooperation.”

The Dow Jones industrial average dropped 724 points, or nearly 3%, after Trump’s announcement on Thursday, and Asian markets followed suit in Friday’s session.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...riffs-as-stocks-plunge-amid-fear-of-trade-war
 
4) We learnt more about the Don's deft touch with the ladies. It seems that a woman who sleeps with him and doesn't take money is a really nice person.
(But we know this never happened because God has already spoken hasn't he ?)

Karen McDougal tells CNN Trump once tried to pay her after sex

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump once tried to offer Karen McDougal money after they had been intimate, the former Playboy model told Anderson Cooper Thursday in an exclusive interview on CNN.
"After we had been intimate, he tried to pay me, and I actually didn't know how to take that," she said of their first alleged sexual encounter.
When Cooper asked if Trump tried to hand her money, McDougal said, "He did."

"I don't even know how to describe the look on my face," she said. "It must have been so sad."
McDougal appeared on CNN to tell her story of an alleged affair she had with now-President Donald Trump over a decade ago and its emotional fallout, as well as to air her grievances with the company she's suing over the story.
As for Trump's wife, Melania, who Trump was married to during the alleged affair, McDougal expressed remorse and apologized.
"What can you say except I'm sorry?" she said. "I'm sorry. I wouldn't want it done to me."
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/22/politics/karen-mcdougal-donald-trump/index.html
 
SirRumpole said:
And the ABC has to try to appeal to everyone, not just the Cory Bernadis and Pauline Hansons.
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Ah there you are... Had to scroll through endless bas hit pieces to find some actual comment.

The thing is Horace, they are appealing to their own echo chamber, just like the rest.

I ain't my Auntie, that is for sure.
 

This sounds pretty serious. I sympathise with Trump's desire to reduce the US trade deficit, and I think that a "whatever their tarriffs , ours will be the same" is a fair policy.

It's had an immediate effect on the stock market though, whether they will settle down or will move towards a recession is a worry for us all.
 
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