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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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The news is overfed with Trump stories. He has done bad stuff that no one else would get away with.

And yet here we are.

All these stories with half truths and negativity on trump just dilute the more important ones. I don't know what news stories to believe anymore, without a half hour of research. So its easier to start ignoring them.
 
some Truth there moXJO.
Since Hillary is unable to accept her defeat (as it was her defeat not Trump's victory) we have so much anti Trump bias I do not give a **** to the news and I believe most of the americans do the same (except the Hillary fan cohorts of course with their self righteous indignation)
As Trump is going to pass the first laws since ages on gun control, it is hardly noted, or not enough orrr..but compare with the past..anyway..he is not a saint but i have more respect for him than any of the other puppets
 
That remains to be seen. Good on him if he does.

He, like most people who aren't politician, have moments of sanity. But he will be quickly enough brought into line by those who know better.

It is better to come to terms with doing what the lobbyist tells you, get to live and retire with a few billions extra. Don't go insulting the real owner or growing a brain... might end up like Nixon and be seen as a villian; or JFK and a hero who's no longer with his family.

There was a leak some weeks ago about Trump telling his generals: you guys keep asking me to send more troops here, bomb more places there. Why the heck are we doing this.

General: Sir, we have to do it there so we don't have to do it here.

Trump: You always say that. You can say that about any place you want bombed.

Not sure if that exchange was before or after "he" ordered that Mother of all Bombs on Afghanistan.

There's a reason why empires and dynasties last no more than 220 to 300 years. The empire get over-extended, the military grows too powerful, the plebs too impoverished, the elite too rich and corrupt to know the possibility of an uprising... then a spark either ignite the plebs to overthrow their governemtn... or an external shock reduces it to a colony and protectorate.
 
Interesting to see if the relatively small amount of steel China sells into the USA, will be be replaced by the same stuff, but in the form of e.g. cheap white goods with increased profit margins :- putting tariffs on import steel will presumably raise the cost of production in the U$ofA .
 

Increased cost of production, yes. But that's OK because beside war machines, how many manufactured goods does the US export nowadays anyway.

So most of the costs will be paid for by Americans themselves. On that planned infrastructure spent.

Apparently we in Australia already have a similar trade protection scheme for the local steel industry. I was told by a sales rep that they have to pay some 5% or 10% extra if they import steel from China. So they have to buy from OneSteel the raw material... "making life very difficult" as he put it.
 
Chinese steel is absolute shyte anyway.

The difference when you work proper stuff is huge.
 
Chinese steel is absolute shyte anyway.

The difference when you work proper stuff is huge.
Depends where you get it from.
Plus you need guys there checking the orders are packed with what its suppose to contain.
 
Chinese steel is absolute shyte anyway.

The difference when you work proper stuff is huge.

Personally I wouldn't want to build my foundation with Chinese imported steel.

But if it's for a client... well, I supposed there's a few pieces of paper saying it's to Australian standard soooo your Honour... who am I to question other people's authority

But yea, for an average house the cost of reinforcement is about $4K to $5K... which is practically nothing really. Might as well go for quality you can trust... and supporting a couple of local duopoly for their hard lobbying work.
 
Sticking on the bottom of a horses foot for six weeks shows you a lot about the quality of the steel.
 

Just about everything out of China is dodgy...we all know it, they know it, every Oz business that has gone down because of price point knows it.
 
Sticking on the bottom of a horses foot for six weeks shows you a lot about the quality of the steel.
Is there any special requirement for the steel to make horse shoes?
Why don't you use stainless steel?
 
Just about everything out of China is dodgy...we all know it, they know it, every Oz business that has gone down because of price point knows it.

Them fake LewisVuitton and Niko Aires look pretty good though.

But yea, China is a big country with many lords. As long as the importer do their homework and check the specs themselves, they might get half of what they paid for.
 
Is there any special requirement for the steel to make horse shoes?
Why don't you use stainless steel?
You probably could use SS, if you found the right forgeable alloy, but their really is no benefit in doing so. There us a cost-workability-benefit equation.

Just decent mild steel is all that is required, but a lot of the chinese stuff is not much more than iron with a few impurities. Aus steel you can harden via quenching from red heat, the Chinese stuff won't harden very much at all, it also slags up much more in the fire.

You can also use aluminium for therapuetic work (or premade racing plates).

Copper used to be used in the coal mines because of the non sparking properties... And fun for specimen shoes you can polish up and make pretty.

Titanium was tried for a while, and there are some polyurethane shoes available.
 
Just what we all needed... a Pre-Depression style Trade war.

Trump administration's trade war claims first Australian victim

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"Protectionism is a dead end. It's not a ladder to get you out of the low-growth trap. It's a shovel to dig it much deeper," said Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. Jessica Hromas
Donald Trump's fast-escalating protectionist trade war has claimed its first Australian scalp with Perth silicon metal exporter Simcoa slammed by a bruising 51 per cent US government tariff that threatens to muddy Canberra's push to be excluded from steep steel and aluminium levies.

As governments around the world led by the European Union, China and Canada ramp up retaliatory threats – including potential tariffs on Harley-Davidsons, bourbon and blue jeans – the Turnbull government admitted it still has no clarity on whether the steel tariffs would hit Australian exporters.

In a warning of how a full-blown global trade war would confound Mr Trump's tweet over the weekend that "trade wars are good, and easy to win", modelling obtained by The Australian Financial Review by Deloitte Access Economics shows it would cost 20,000 jobs, wipe $5 billion off national income within a year, and derail a much-needed upswing in business investment.

WTO issues warning

In an unusual intervention into a World Trade Organisation member's trade policy, director general Roberto Azevedo said the "potential for escalation is real". "A trade war is in no one's interests. The WTO will be watching the situation very closely."


Markets and investors continue to brace for potential blow back from China and others after Mr Trump announced a plan for 25 per cent tariffs on steel imports and 10 per cent on aluminium.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average crashed 771.93 points last week, or 3 per cent.

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, just over a week after personally pressing Mr Trump at the White House to honour a pledge last year to exempt Australian exporters such as BlueScope Steel, on Sunday lashed out at slide towards greater trade barriers.

"Protectionism is a dead end. It's not a ladder to get you out of the low-growth trap. It's a shovel to dig it much deeper," Mr Turnbull said.

http://www.afr.com/news/economy/tru...laims-first-australian-victim-20180304-h0wylv
 


Perils or naivety? How many times does the LNP have to try sidling up to the USofA only to be done over? They must think we are Hicksville.

Meanwhile our true trading partners watch on as we make fools of ourselves thinking gratuitous WW2 camaraderie was about saving Australia rather than the commercial and commonwealth interests of the US at the time.

Paul Keating warned us to "cut the tag" two years ago and as late as last November put out there what is coming true right now:


 
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