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Also, maybe the majority don't mind burning coal at this point in time. Just because YOU, Bob and Julia don't doesn't make you right. It's not all about you.
That's because you are incapable of not generalising. It's ok, there are steps to recovery...
Okey, now please explain how exactly they are supposed to make money without an ETS when coal electricity is cheaper? Further, please prove why your proposed massive cost to taxpayers for building said power plants is cheaper than a once off inflationary effect of the ETS.
This is supposed to be a forum for investors, but it seems like many people here have no idea about basic economics
Two negatives make a positive....
The people here clearly have far more common sense than you have the brains to recognise. One doesn't have to be a scientist or an economist to know when politicians are trying to be dishonest and mislead with partial truths.
But it is strange how propaganda people like you are popping up all over various forums with an aim to put down anyone who doesn't agree with this government.
The plan of attack seems to be:
Attack Abbott
- Get Turnbull back into coalition leadership seemingly for a weaker coalition
- Attack Murdoch to gain public support for politically controlled media
- Treat people like idots who don't want carbon pricing or ETS
- Treat people like idots who don't like the Malaysian deal
- Treat people like idots who would like a new election to stop this awful minority
- Treat people like idots who don't want our children being brain washed in primacy school with political propaganda
That is selective quoting, maybe you could have added the rest of my qoute where I said it was pie in the sky, but that wouldn't have helped with your cheap shot would it?
Also, maybe the majority don't mind burning coal at this point in time. Just because YOU, Bob and Julia don't doesn't make you right. It's not all about you.
Either you have a poor understanding of English or I have no idea what you are on about.
Sure. Blame both sides for middle income welfare. Blame them for the housing bubble. Blame them for the welfare state in general. Blame them for the lack of a SWF. Blame them for corporate donations. Blame them for populist policies. Blame them for a lot of things. All this however does not relate to the necessity for action on global warming.
I find it stranger that people like you pretend to know what people like me think. I am no supporter of any government, I assess each matter independently from the next.
It's also highly hypocritical that you claim people who disagree with you are propagandists.
So basically a whole lot of generalisations. For the record I do wholeheartedely dislike Abbott. He is a complete twat without any brain capacity to make any policy. Like a fool, he has a ridiculous near 2 million $ mortgagte, and the only thing he will do if he ever gets into power is use every inch of his political capital to prop up our ponzi scheme of a housing bubble.
There was nothing in your post that was relevant? Likewise this entire post of yours is a mindless rant, and you did not at all address my question of how your "brilliant" plan for the government to build renewable energy plans and privatitise them when the cost of electricity they generate is noncompetitive can work without an ETS?
"The majority" are very stupid and short sighted. If the only thing our government achieves is to go against this and actually address our greenhouse emissions, I will be pretty happy.
All I see is a whole lot of rants from you but nothing of substance.
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For the record I do wholeheartedely dislike Abbott. He is a complete twat without any brain capacity to make any policy.
Really - you don't know? Your second guess is the right one. Were you only brain washed in political propaganda and don't learn English grammar?
You might learn something from this from Wiki: Two negatives resolving to a positive
herp derp propaganda
As I said before the very idea of building the renewable energy power stations was made in jest. I think the idea is stupid as does the majority of voters. End of story
Labor has been in power since 2007, please supply a list of what they have achieved....
Brilliant!All retirees should be forced to sell all their property before they are eligible to receive any pension payments.
They could live in the street on a park bench.
They would not need a pension too long living that way.
Dannyboy stipulated "that they HAVE achieved". You absolutely cannot claim that the NBN is anywhere approaching being achieved.There's obviously a lot of things, and different people may appreciate different ones. For me the big ones are;
- NBN (key infrastructure needed for business, will provide cutting edge services to rural towns, and help in the de-centralisation of cities)
Same objection. They have not instituted an ETS. They have proposed a carbon tax which is not the same thing and which has yet to get through the parliament.- ETS (key policy for addressing global warming)
Hah, what a joke! They loosened the previously successful policy and are now back pedaling frantically (albeit unsuccessfully) to reverse their disastrous change in policy.- Tightens immigration standards (because I don't like immigrants who come here without much purpose, and can't even speak English)
Ah, that will be why we get to send 800 (if the high court doesn't veto this) so Malaysia can send us 4000.- Against population increase (preserves quality of living for present occupants of our country)
What absolute rubbish. All that is being discussed is a report from the Productivity Commission which suggests research should be carried out into having those people requiring aged care access some of the equity in their homes, to a maximum of $60,000.In fact they are now talking about having seniors sell their houses, which is excellent. All retirees should be forced to sell all their property before they are eligible to receive any pension payments.
To me, someone who has spent their working life paying taxes has the right to live out their retirement in the comfort of their own home.
These are people who have spent their lives contributing to society as a whole, not cattle ready for the knackery.
Dannyboy stipulated "that they HAVE achieved". You absolutely cannot claim that the NBN is anywhere approaching being achieved.
Same objection. They have not instituted an ETS. They have proposed a carbon tax which is not the same thing and which has yet to get through the parliament.
Hah, what a joke! They loosened the previously successful policy and are now back pedaling frantically (albeit unsuccessfully) to reverse their disastrous change in policy.
Ah, that will be why we get to send 800 (if the high court doesn't veto this) so Malaysia can send us 4000.
What absolute rubbish. All that is being discussed is a report from the Productivity Commission which suggests research should be carried out into having those people requiring aged care access some of the equity in their homes, to a maximum of $60,000.
There is absolutely no suggestion that retirees will be 'forced to sell all their property before they are eligible to receive any pension payments".
For me the big ones are;
- NBN (key infrastructure needed for business, will provide cutting edge services to rural towns, and help in the de-centralisation of cities) Debatable and the total cost will easily exceed the Governments original $40-$50 Billion estimate.
- ETS (key policy for addressing global warming) - And we will make a HUGE difference in reducing CO2 emissions while China and USA do nothing. Renewable technology is too expensive and can't handle base power loads.
- Tightens immigration standards (because I don't like immigrants who come here without much purpose, and can't even speak English) - And the Christmas Island debarcle that is happening right NOW? The Government dismantled a working policy, and totally stuffed it up. See chart below.
- Against population increase (preserves quality of living for present occupants of our country) - You clearly have no idea what you are talking about! Look at Germany, 4 times the population and high standard of living!
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There's obviously a lot of things, and different people may appreciate different ones. For me the big ones are;
- NBN (key infrastructure needed for business, will provide cutting edge services to rural towns, and help in the de-centralisation of cities)
- ETS (key policy for addressing global warming)
- Tightens immigration standards (because I don't like immigrants who come here without much purpose, and can't even speak English)
- Against population increase (preserves quality of living for present occupants of our country)
To me, someone who has spent their working life paying taxes has the right to live out their retirement in the comfort of their own home.
To me, someone who has spent their working life paying taxes has the right to live out their retirement in the comfort of their own home.
Haven't we always paid for the generation that preceded us? e.g. the baby boomers are presently paying for those that are already retired. The baby boomers will be the first generation to at least make a reasonable contribution to their own retirement.if they can support themselves, sure. otherwise what about the rights of young people to not have to pay for a burgeoning elderly class?
It's funny the baby boomers supported their parents and most I know have, and still are helping their 20 - 40 year old kids.
But listen to the Gen Y kids "why should I support anybody, its all about me".
I can see why the government doesn't want the baby boomers to retire, they are the only ones who do a decent days work without bitching and crying.LOL
So funny, disarray.needs more generalisation sptrawler
if they can support themselves, sure. otherwise what about the rights of young people to not have to pay for a burgeoning elderly class?
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