What is: 'Calling trades in Hindsight?'

[Bronte]

See my post lower down in this thread for my opinion on the matter.

Can we have your opinion now and maybe the groups opinion later please doctorj ?
Nice pub 'The Lucky shag'

 

[professor_frink]

I was preparing a long winded reply, but it looks like the good doctor has pretty well summed it up for me-

Where the hindsight trades that are posted are occasional and/or used to demonstrate a theory etc, they are useful, even helpful.

Where they are used by someone to celebrate their overwhelming brilliance and/or as an attempt build credibility then they're irratating and a waste of bandwidth.

You've made it abundantly clear that you have absolutely no intention of sharing any of your analysis as to why a trade was taken, meaning there is very little in the way of educational value in your posts. All that leaves as a possible reason for calling a trade is for your own personal credibility. To ensure that there is some credibility to the call, it needs to be done as near to live as possible, so that there can be no arguments.

Pretty simple really Bronte. That's why I edited you post yesterday and removed the claim you made. Not sure why you need a thread to answer this question, when you could have simply replied to the PM you were sent, but oh well, there's your explanation.

 

[Bronte]

What did I claim professor please?

 

[professor_frink]

What did I claim professor please?

It makes absolutely no difference now Bronte. You broke the rules of the thread. You were caught. Get over it.

 

[Bronte]

Can you repost the soft delete 'claim'
For us all to see please.

 

[happytrader]

I think all trading in hindsight or otherwise is entertaining and adds drama. As for education you can learn a lot about the motivation and personalities of particular 'callers'.

Trading is basically pretty boring. I could add a multitude of words and reasons of why I bought or sold a stock however, the boring truth would be "I bought stock A because I think its far too cheap or expensive to stay that way for long."

It is the tendancy to get caught up in the drama and to take things personally which causes the problems.

Cheers
Happytrader

 

[professor_frink]

Can you repost the soft delete 'claim'
For us all to see please.

Editing posts isn't a 'soft' delete. That part of the post is gone. The rest of the post is still there(despite your best efforts to get rid of it yesterday so nobody would see that I had edited it and why).

From what I remember it was something along the lines of it being a 'gift' for 25 points when FrankD was questioning why you would still be trading the September contract half an hour before it expires.

All of this would have been explained to you privately if you hadn't ignored the PM you were sent. Much simpler than starting a thread. Or are you hoping to get people siding with you on this to try and change the way the SPI thread is run?

 

[Bronte]

No claim was made professor_frink.

 

[wayneL]

What is Calling trades in Hindsight?
Joe and other ASF members would appreciate some feed back please.
Your definition of a 'Hindsight trade' and can we learn from them?.

Battman,

We have been over and over and over and over and over this with you over the last 3 years or whatever. If I can suggest a wording that isn't hindsight trading, but highlights an opportunity that has past:

Instead of "I sold the gap opening and am up 25 points" and posting that at midday, try something like "Those who sold the gap would be very happy". That will keep you out of trouble, but even then that would be an absolutely useless waste of bandwidth because anyone can see that as bleedin' obvious!... and bloody annoying.

So if you take the trouble to state the bleedin' obvious, add some analysis like "selling the gap open at the wadjamahoodjama line is a high probability trade... and be prepared to answer questions as to what a wadjamahoodjama line is and how/why is works.

That's how everybody else does it and manages not to piss everyone else off.

Otherwise call them LIVE.

If you want to publish zero credibility hindsight trades, start a blog. There are plenty of sucker who might actually believe you, but as a community, we here at ASF must enforce some sort of standards. It is these you have continuously breeched over a period of years.

Echoing professor frink, get over it.

 

[wayneL]

I think all trading in hindsight or otherwise is entertaining and adds drama. As for education you can learn a lot about the motivation and personalities of particular 'callers'.

Trading is basically pretty boring. I could add a multitude of words and reasons of why I bought or sold a stock however, the boring truth would be "I bought stock A because I think its far too cheap or expensive to stay that way for long."

It is the tendancy to get caught up in the drama and to take things personally which causes the problems.

Cheers
Happytrader

HT,

It is when hundreds of hindsite trades are called and you notice that there are no losing trades, when you realize the poster is LIEING. This is not drama, it's BS.

 

[Bronte]

We have been over and over and over and over and over this with you over the last 3 years or whatever. If I can suggest a wording that isn't hindsight trading, but highlights an opportunity that has past:

Instead of "I sold the gap opening and am up 25 points" and posting that at midday, try something "Those who sold the gap would be very happy". That will keep you out of trouble, but even then that would be an absolutely useless waste of bandwidth because anyone can see that as bleedin' obvious!... and bloody annoying.

So if you take the trouble to state the bleedin' obvious, add some analysis like "selling the gap open at the wadjamahoodjama line is a high probability trade... and be prepared to answer questions as to what a wadjamahoodjama line is and how/why is works.

That's how everybody else does it and manages not to piss everyone else off.

Otherwise call them LIVE.

If you want to publish zero credibility hindsight trades, start a blog. There are plenty of sucker who might actually believe you, but as a community, we here at ASF must enforce some sort of standards. It is these you have continuously breeched over a period of years.

Achoing professor frink, get over it.

Just trying to work out what I did wrong so that I do not it again
No claim was made in this case.
Interesting poll so far.

 

[professor_frink]

No claim was made professor_frink.

If that's what you think Bronte, then there will be continue to be trouble in the SPI thread in the future. The new thread will not go down the same path as the original one. Feel free to carry on doing what you are doing, you will continue to receive infractions until your account with ASF is terminated.

Clear enough?

 

[Bronte]

It is when hundreds of hindsite trades are called and you notice that there are no losing trades, when you realize the poster is LIEING. This is not drama, it's BS.

Post #6 26th July 2006 02.10PM

We were "Bearish"
Traded off "Gann Resistance" 4995
We had Support at 4977
It all went wrong after the announcement.
I :axt: tried to catch a falling knife....Ouch!

One of many losing trades from the original 'Trading the SPI' thread.
This losing trade was called in 'Hindsight' Wayne lol

 

[wayneL]

Post #6 26th July 2006 02.10PM
We were "Bearish"
Traded off "Gann Resistance" 4995
We had Support at 4977
It all went wrong after the announcement.
I :axt: tried to catch a falling knife....Ouch!
One of many losing trades from the original 'Trading the SPI' thread.
This losing trade was called in 'hindsight' lol

Only after months and months of calling you out on it.

Battman, it's plain as the nose on your face, you did the wrong thing, you know you did the wrong thing, you were pulled up for. Now, stop wasting everybody's time with this impetuous bitching.

 

[doctorj]

It's clear that Bronte isn't hoping for an honest and frank discussion, he's just interested in point scoring, so I'm closing this thread.

It'll go on forever and a day otherwise.

If anyone has any concerns about posting hindsight trades (with the exception of Bronte), please feel free to contact me via PM.