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And please, chill a little.Oh FFS, ........
The problem is that the figures from the Clean Energy Future website represent the high water mark for the net impact of the compensation.Haha wow guys really gettin off the rails here - I should mention the Original Post was to find out how the tax changes would effect me, lol.
I agree, except rather than ignore you can just treat it for what it is, an anonymous IBB and not take it too seriously.
Some (most) of the posters on here make Alan Jones look like Karl Marx. It's good for a chuckle. There's also a remarkably high number of conspiracy theorists.
Like!
If nothing else, I can have fun attempting to bring a bit of balance to this place. All the pigeon holed right wing, white collar shiny bum, money hungry Chicken Littles around here must think it is absolutely abhorrent that a blue collar left leaning bloke has actually got enough brains to consistently make money out of shares, and spoil their party to boot!
As has been stated by others...this forum is dominated by the right, some further right than others, some you can talk sense to, most not....i highly recommend the ignore function as an alternative to banging your head against the brick wall of fear, misinformation and negative spin of the ASF right and its lackeys.
This issue is not about being left or right, it is about honesty and what is good policy for the country.
I never suggested conditioning!!!! if you came to the wrong conclusion, well, I can't help that. It was never meant to be as such.
Everyone seems to think that they will be x amount of $ worse off, but they continually fail to realise how much they will save by no longer having to pay the flood levy.
Forget about politics; it's just mathematics!!!!!!!!!
Yep Kavla, good post.
A distribution of wealth is how I see this policy.
I suppose it depends on how you view it whether its good or bad for the country.
How could you run a country if every policy decision made had to pass the approval of all the voters immediately?
MPs are the people's representatives - they are not elected to be dictators.
I never suggested conditioning!!!! if you came to the wrong conclusion, well, I can't help that. It was never meant to be as such.
Everyone seems to think that they will be x amount of $ worse off, but they continually fail to realise how much they will save by no longer having to pay the flood levy.
Forget about politics; it's just mathematics!!!!!!!!!
And seeing that you guys have tacitly aligned yourself with the Socialists, I notice this one overriding trait as evidenced above when faced with an overwhelming logic, immediately employ any number of fallacious arguments, such as argumentum ad hominem and our old friend the straw man argument.
Kindergarten stuff fellas.
How was anything I said ad hominem? Making broad descriptions about *some* of the people who post here certainly isn't. Would you actually disagree that the majority on here are not Right?
I love how much you use the word socialist to describe anything or any person you disagree with. Brilliant.
How was anything I said ad hominem? Making broad descriptions about *some* of the people who post here certainly isn't.
Would you actually disagree that the majority on here are not Right?
I love how much you use the word socialist to describe anything or any person you disagree with. Brilliant.
Actually Mclovin it is because he said it. Can't get clearer than that can you ?
Law of papal infallability I think as applied by the local gods.
But you did use argumentative fallacy.
I don't know, I don't really think in terms of right and left. Some accuse me of being Right, some accuse me of being Left. I suspect that would apply to many posters here categorized as "Right".
I think in terms of liberty and authoritarianism... and depending on whether we are talking social liberty or economic liberty, depends on what sneering categorization I get. I also suspect that again applies to many posters here categorized as "Right".
I think so too.But that is not quite accurate is it McLovin... another argumentative fallacy.
I wasn't arguing at least I didn't think I was.
It seems no different than your suggestion that because I'm not frothing at the mouth about how the government is destroying our democracy by implementing a tax, I've somehow "tacitly aligned yourself with the Socialists".
Why not stick to the merits of the debate on this tax, rather than goofing around with attempted point scoring?
Now now basilio, lets not get too carried away with the machinations of forum order.
PM me if you'd like to say more.
So, so so sorry Mr Wayne. Just noting that an overwhelming amount of what passes as "argument" in this forum are just bald statements of peoples alleged political affiliations as an attack point.
Of course it's not just you who uses this particular technique. There are plenty of other "infallible beings " who when they can't find a rational reason for a position jump to the socialist/watermelon/ whatever tag to bag other posters.
My comment was for the benefit of McLovin (and others) who may have been surprised by the discussion process in this forum and hadn't been brought up to speed.
And what exactly is the discussion process on this forum... according to basilio?
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