What classifies as moving car to avoid fine?

[Whiskers]

I agree parking fines are just another form of revenue raising in many cases. In Bundaberg near where I am mostly, I'm not aware of any paid parking areas, but parking is increasingly regulated. People who work in the city had very little all day parking available and were doing the lunch break moving thing after council regulated even more of those spaces.

Fortunately being a smaller community, public uproar about the inconvenience and safety of women in particular having to walk long distances, particularly in the evening after work to get to their car and the unavailability of other transport and poor street lighting caused council to reconsider.

Well they can't possibly prove that you were parked there for the entire time.

That's true... unless the area is covered by video surveillance for example.

I guess they just rely on people not contesting it.

This is also true.

The key to contesting is firstly to volunteer little information, especially anything that they may be able to use to incriminate you, and to turn the situation around to put the onus on them to prove their case which you do by persuing the appeal process.

People tend to automatically 'defend' themselves/their positions.

In Law the onus is on the Prosecution/Applicant to prove their case... not for you to defend an unsubstantiated complaint. Your task and your right is to demand all the evidence they have to substantiate their case and to discredit their evidence, highlight ambiguity and alternative scenerios etc.

 

[badger41]

Not parking related, but how's this for a "gotcha"?

A senior police officer on WA radio today was queried about the use of fog lights. He stated that they can only be used in the case of fog (or other dangerous situations - smoke perhaps?), and MUST NOT BE USED WITH OTHER LIGHTING SUCH AS HEADLIGHTS.


Well, I just checked out our Suzuki SX4 and our Mazda3, both fitted with fog-lamps. The fog lamps REQUIRE the headlights to be turned on before they will operate. Presumably the Suzuki and Mazda comply with ADRs, how come the State law doesn't? Check your own vehicle, and state laws!

Badger

 

[gordon2007]

I totally disagree. having to pay for parking is purely and simply a revenue raiser for councils. we are taxed by all 3 levels of government for the provision of roads.

I don't dispute that. But still, at the end of the day, it's just easier to pay for a proper park then to have to disrupt myself every hour or two and move a car.

Perhaps I'm stubborn, but there is no way I'm going to interrupt a good steak, show or anything else juggling car parks just to save myself a $20-30 parking fee. Knowing that I may be successful and I may not. And if not, I then end up with a bigger cost then just paying for a proper car park.

 

[Lantern]

In the radical little village that I live in we once had a good laugh.

We were in the middle of a very large police opperation that went on for six months. Somewhere in the middle of this a parking warden came out from the local city council. He came out of the police station, walked down one side of the street chalking the cars then proceded up the other side back towards the police station, eventually chalking every car in the village.

As soon as he entered the station one of our more radical young females got a wet rag and rubbed every mark off every tyre.

An hour later he came out of the station, we all watched him walk back down the street, checking the cars. When he reached the pub, where we were, he seemed to realise he had been had and just turned on his heels and went back up the same side of the street to the police station, got in his car, and left.

 

[jono1887]

do they still use the chalk on the tyres?

 

[Tink]

do they still use the chalk on the tyres?

No, from what I have seen, they store your rego in this little gadget they have. If they come back and you are still in the section -- ciao ciao

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

do they still use the chalk on the tyres?

I always carry chalk with me and when nobody is looking I put chalk marks on tyres.

It keeps the traffic moving especially when I wear an original hat I got at auction in the UK when "On the buses" was canned.

Its quite interesting to sit in the window of the Herbert Hotel to watch the fun on Sturt St. when the drivers notice the chalk.

One poor fellow who can't afford an Arnage, he drives a Continental , gets quite irate at the Council when he sees me tag his car.

gg