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Big miners tip $750 million into fund to pay for 'legacy' infrastructure and social projects

Mark McGowan establishes an investment trust funded by the state's most prominent resource companies to realise 'legacy projects'.
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This is 100% pure corruption in my opinion. Infrastructure projects should not be paid for from a government slush fund funded by major industry players. It should be funded by an increased royalty revenue applied equally across the board.

It really would be more efficient if Western Australia just become a division of BHP or woodside. Doesn't matter who gets voted in the mining lobby owns them all.

"It's unusual in a state which has a $6 billion surplus for the Premier to be going cap in hand to these mining companies and not expecting anything in return...Perhaps this gives the government the opportunity to use the $6 billion its got in the Premier's back pocket to spend on the basics he's failing on like health, housing, cost of living initiatives for Western Australians."
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Ask Brendan Grylls about increasing royalty revenue.
 
Times are changing, this wouldn't have happened a few years back.
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Thousands of nurses strike across WA over failed pay deal, as surgeries cancelled

Nurses and midwives have walked off the job, after their union rejected the government's latest pay and conditions offer.
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Hundreds of surgeries, including procedures for cancer patients, have been cancelled as nurses and midwives across Western Australia strike over an ill-fated pay offer.

The industrial action comes as the Australian Nursing Federation (ANF) ignored a summons to appear before the Industrial Relations Commission (IRC) this morning over the dispute over pay and conditions.
Thousands of nurses and midwives rallied outside the front of state parliament, chanting "we're not going to take it anymore."

Wearing their work uniforms and holding signs demanding a five per cent pay rise, they loudly booed the government's claims they are putting patient safety at risk by striking.
Addressing a sea of nurses in blue uniforms from the front steps of parliament, ANF state secretary Janet Reah thanked those nurses and midwives who had stayed behind to form a skeleton staff so that the strike could go ahead.

She then labelled Premier Mark McGowan and Industrial Relations Minister, Bill Johnston, as "cowards" for ignoring invitations to speak at the rally.

But the crowd's loudest jeers were saved for Health Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson who had also declined the invitation because the strike action was "unlawful".

The ANF assured its members it would financially support all those taking part.
 
McGowan is unfortunately setting himself up for a media backlash, he is being sensible, measured and putting the State first.
That is so yesterday, so old hat, today it is about oiling the squeaky wheel, getting on the same page as the media narrative.
Mark, if your not on the narrative, you are toast.:eek:

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'Disrespectful': WA's police union blasts McGowan government's latest pay offer

WA police officers are locked in long-running negotiations over a new wages deal, and the union says it wants the government to show them some "respect".
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Thousands of nurses strike across WA over failed pay deal, as surgeries cancelled

Nurses and midwives have walked off the job, after their union rejected the government's latest pay and conditions offer.
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WA Premier defends detention of teens in adult jail after judge described move as 'a form of child abuse'

Mark McGowan says he disagrees with the state's children's court and the way it is handling some juvenile detainees in the latest escalation over the detention of teenagers in part of an adult prison.
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sptrawler said:
McGowan is unfortunately setting himself up for a media backlash, he is being sensible, measured and putting the State first.
That is so yesterday, so old hat, today it is about oiling the squeaky wheel, getting on the same page as the media narrative.
Mark, if your not on the narrative, you are toast.:eek:

www.abc.net.au

'Disrespectful': WA's police union blasts McGowan government's latest pay offer

WA police officers are locked in long-running negotiations over a new wages deal, and the union says it wants the government to show them some "respect".
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www.abc.net.au

Thousands of nurses strike across WA over failed pay deal, as surgeries cancelled

Nurses and midwives have walked off the job, after their union rejected the government's latest pay and conditions offer.
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WA Premier defends detention of teens in adult jail after judge described move as 'a form of child abuse'

Mark McGowan says he disagrees with the state's children's court and the way it is handling some juvenile detainees in the latest escalation over the detention of teenagers in part of an adult prison.
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Pity he had to be a totalitarian @#$& though. Can never forgive him for that.

#unpopularopinion
 
wayneL said:
Pity he had to be a totalitarian @#$& though. Can never forgive him for that.

#unpopularopinion
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Yeh but, he did make a lot of FIFO's get over themselves and move over here, rather than coming her to plunder and you know what, then fly home.
I've lived here since I was a kid in the 60's, the only Premiers I've found any good were:
Charlie Court, just a visionary he made W.A what it is today.
Made the mining companies build towns and infrastructure if they wanted to mine our ore, made BHP build a blast furnace in Kwinana if they were going to mine iron ore, contracted to buy gas from the north west that we couldn't burn and built a gas pipeline to use it then converted a power station to burn it so that it got here.
Richard Court, always was in his fathers shadow and suffered a lot of bad press for it, but seemed to have the State at heart, certainly didn't need the money.
Built the Polly Farmer Freeway and despite a huge public outcry bought the "Bells of St Martins in the fields" for $5m from memory, it cost him an election, but it is really a national treasure now.
thewest.com.au

Bells of St Martin-in-the-Fields find a new home in Perth

The Bells of St Martin-in-the-Fields rang across London when Sir Francis Drake defeated the Spanish Armada in 1588.
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Allan Carpenter: Short lived but an absolute legend IMO, he came into office as an ex journo which really sent him down the ladder for me, but he was a person who can say I came into politics with principles, I acted with principles and I can leave with my head held high.
Which not many politicians can IMO.
Poor guy came into politics with morals and principles, found out they were the last thing that was need, but left with them intact.
Colin Barnett: Funnily enough he was the minister for energy when I first heard about him, my boss was the president of the ASU and said he was the only guy in Govt that had a brain.
Well he gets in, and $hit happens he wants the W.A share of GST increased as the price of iron ore is collapsing and the GST isn't re adjusted for years.
He wants the new gas discovery North of Broome piped onshore to be processed and was shouted down by the Feds and Bob Brown, so now they have a social problem due unemployment in Broome, a floating gas processing plant that doesn't work and a stupid mess that shouldn't have happened.
The other problem W.A had was one major hospital RPH and it was maxed out 5 elections ago, he says FFk it and builds a new Major hospital being the Fiona Stanley, then Builds the New Children's hospital to replace Princess Margarets, Builds a new Joondalup health campus, builds a new Midland health campus, starts the airport underground train link and many other projects.
Then gets voted out in 2017, because everyone said he over spent, well it would have been interesting when covid hit two years later if the hospital expenditure hadn't been done.
10 years in office great legacy, great achievement in this day and age of constant media criticism and negativity.
Mark McGowan: IMO he is of much the same ilk as Barnett, he isn't pandering to the white noise and is trying to make W.A work, what people have to remember, we aren't a manufacturing country anymore, we are a first world economy managing a welfare and high living standard with a third world mining income.
During the pandemic, he played hard ball and made FIFO's decide, if you want to work here you have a choice, leave your family or relocate, absolutely great move IMO.
My family made the choice 60 years ago and moved from England and it was the best thing my father ever did in his life.
McGowan seems to be the only Premier that understands that, maybe the media should ask some of the FIFO's who relocated what they think. ?
By the way @wayneL are you thinking of heading back east?
 
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sptrawler said:
Yeh but, he did make a lot of FIFO's get over themselves and move over here, rather than coming her to plunder and you know what, then fly home.
I've lived here since I was a kid in the 60's, the only Premiers I've found any good were:
Charlie Court, just a visionary he made W.A what it is today.
Made the mining companies build towns and infrastructure if they wanted to mine our ore, made BHP build a blast furnace in Kwinana if they were going to mine iron ore, contracted to buy gas from the north west that we couldn't burn and built a gas pipeline to use it then converted a power station to burn it so that it got here.
Richard Court, always was in his fathers shadow and suffered a lot of bad press for it, but seemed to have the State at heart, certainly didn't need the money.
Built the Polly Farmer Freeway and despite a huge public outcry bought the "Bells of St Martins in the fields" for $5m from memory, it cost him an election, but it is really a national treasure now.
thewest.com.au

Bells of St Martin-in-the-Fields find a new home in Perth

The Bells of St Martin-in-the-Fields rang across London when Sir Francis Drake defeated the Spanish Armada in 1588.
thewest.com.au thewest.com.au
Allan Carpenter: Short lived but an absolute legend IMO, he came into office as an ex journo which really sent him down the ladder for me, but he was a person who can say I came into politics with principles, I acted with principles and I can leave with my head held high.
Which not many politicians can IMO.
Poor guy came into politics with morals and principles, found out they were the last thing that was need, but left with them intact.
Colin Barnett: Funnily enough he was the minister for energy when I first heard about him, my boss was the president of the ASU and said he was the only guy in Govt that had a brain.
Well he gets in, and $hit happens he wants the W.A share of GST increased as the price of iron ore is collapsing and the GST isn't re adjusted for years.
He wants the new gas discovery North of Broome piped onshore to be processed and was shouted down by the Feds and Bob Brown, so now they have a social problem due unemployment in Broome, a floating gas processing plant that doesn't work and a stupid mess that shouldn't have happened.
The other problem W.A had was one major hospital RPH and it was maxed out 5 elections ago, he says FFk it and builds a new Major hospital being the Fiona Stanley, then Builds the New Children's hospital to replace Princess Margarets, Builds a new Joondalup health campus, builds a new Midland health campus, starts the airport underground train link and many other projects.
Then gets voted out in 2017, because everyone said he over spent, well it would have been interesting when covid hit two years later if the hospital expenditure hadn't been done.
10 years in office great legacy, great achievement in this day and age of constant media criticism and negativity.
Mark McGowan: IMO he is of much the same ilk as Barnett, he isn't pandering to the white noise and is trying to make W.A work, what people have to remember, we aren't a manufacturing country anymore, we are a first world economy managing a welfare and high living standard with a third world mining income.
During the pandemic, he played hard ball and made FIFO's decide, if you want to work here you have a choice, leave your family or relocate, absolutely great move IMO.
My family made the choice 60 years ago and moved from England and it was the best thing my father ever did in his life.
McGowan seems to be the only Premier that understands that, maybe the media should ask some of the FIFO's who relocated what they think. ?
By the way @wayneL are you thinking of heading back east?
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Many of my clients are FIFO. A mixed bag with regards to Mark Tse Tung, as you'd expect. A lot wouldn't @#$& on him if he was on fire. Though I don't imagine many others would've resisted the pathetic power trip either.

My next move is Mars, or perhaps Sweden. ;)
 
SirRumpole said:
One reason why the Libs are in trouble in WA.'

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'I have disgraced myself': Former MP pleads guilty to hindering corruption probe

Another former WA politician pleads guilty to hindering a corruption investigation into his misuse of electoral allowances, which later found he had used taxpayers' money to pay for visits to a Japanese bath house and the strippers.
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Sir Rumpole oh dear, dear me snouts in der the trough. Much easier to use OPM than their own
 
WA libs need a clean broom, just blitz the whole thing and start over.

Stop trying to be Greens, stop trying to be labor light, stop trying to be old fashioned religious conservatives, (with all the ideological dissonance that entails).

There are plenty of classical liberals (in the English/Menzian sense) to rebuild and recreate the party it once was.

Until then they are a cesspit of idiocy that have no capacity to counter the toxicity of the left.
 
Waynet Me thinks that the Libs need to get rid of the back room "power brokers such as the "hyphen" and other co=horts and then and only then will there be a decisive alternative
 
farmerge said:
Waynet Me thinks that the Libs need to get rid of the back room "power brokers such as the "hyphen" and other co=horts and then and only then will there be a decisive alternative
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Yep, chuck them in the sea, all of them.
 
Waynet I guess that you can gather i don't have too might time for pollies of any description particularly if they are scum bags, low lifes, bludgers on the public purse or have their snouts in the trough, and then have the hide to say I didn't think it was that important. !!!!!
 
www.watoday.com.au

McGowan defends gas exemption in face of supply crunch warning

The WA premier also denied he discussed the export ban exemption of Beach Energy and Mitsui joint venture’s Waitsia gas project with one of Beach’s major shareholders, Kerry Stokes or his son Ryan.
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In August 2020, McGowan announced a new ban on the export of gas extracted from onshore wells to shore up gas supply and keep energy prices in the state down. But Waitsia was given an exemption to export 50 per cent of the reservoir over five years through Woodside’s ageing Karratha Gas Plant.
The decision raised industry eyebrows at the time as it created an unfair playing field, greatly benefitting Japanese-owned Mitsui and Beach Energy shareholders, including Stokes, who now has a 30 per cent stake in the business.

Now the Australian Energy Market Operator has revealed that a gas shortage predicted to occur between from 2023 to 2026 will coincide with the period Waitsia sends its gas overseas.

A graph included in AEMO’s gas statement of opportunities released Thursday shows that WA would continue to have ample supply of gas until at least 2029 if Waitsia’s export gas was added to the state’s energy mix.

The gas policy was announced at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic and the decision was made to hasten the investment decision on Waitsia, which would create 200 jobs during construction.

When questioned on Thursday, McGowan said he didn’t understand criticisms of the decision, which was made when it was predicted the economy was going to crash.

“It’s all well and good now to … look back on it and say, ‘You shouldn’t have done this or that’. That’s the situation that we were confronting as a state, and we saw was happening in Victoria and New York and Italy and Iran and Britain,” he said.

“Millions of people dying, literally, in advanced Western countries, economies crashing, a world in chaos, and so we did what we had to do on the circumstances, and we got a major project that gives us 50 per cent gas, not 15 per cent gas [reservation policy that applies to offshore gas].”
 
wayneL said:
WA libs need a clean broom, just blitz the whole thing and start over.

Stop trying to be Greens, stop trying to be labor light, stop trying to be old fashioned religious conservatives, (with all the ideological dissonance that entails).

There are plenty of classical liberals (in the English/Menzian sense) to rebuild and recreate the party it once was.

Until then they are a cesspit of idiocy that have no capacity to counter the toxicity of the left.
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The religious right have taken over (trend around Australia) nothing to do with being green or lefest or any other conspiracy reds under your bed etc.

Note state nationals are just fine.

State Labor have been more than sensible middle of the road.
 
IFocus said:
The religious right have taken over (trend around Australia) nothing to do with being green or lefest or any other conspiracy reds under your bed etc.

Note state nationals are just fine.

State Labor have been more than sensible middle of the road.
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The Liberals are caught in a bit of a time warp, both State and Federal, IMO they are trying to apply 2000 reasoning to a 2022 World.
The general public has moved on, it isn't a era like when John Howard was in office, people are much better informed due to improvements in social media and the internet.
People want Govt's to be a reflection of the public persona IMO.
Back in the 1990's people wanted the Govt to be like they were, risk averse, careful how they handled money and take the slow and steady approach, Howard and Costello nailed it.
20 years later, after a GFC a Worldwide pandemic, a 20 year period of low inflation and low interest rates, the advent of viable renewables etc the public persona has changed.
People are much greater risk takers, they have seen Govt's throw money out of the windows just print more, they are better informed therefore know that we will struggle in a conflict with China, so todays public has a much more live for the moment outlook.
The Libs trying to pretend that a 1990's approach is going to float, are dreaming, people have moved on Barnett and now McGowan know that and are just getting stuff done, worry about it later.
People are loving it, they are in hock up to their eyeballs living the dream, there is no way you will sell them the old austerity and we will fight them on the beaches story.
The Libs will never get into office, unless they get onto the programme, or there is a humungous financial collapse IMO.
There aren't many kids who listened to their parents and that is more so the case these days, the Libs need to get out of the blue tie and suit look. :2twocents
 
sptrawler said:
The Liberals are caught in a bit of a time warp, both State and Federal, IMO they are trying to apply 2000 reasoning to a 2022 World.
The general public has moved on, it isn't a era like when John Howard was in office, people are much better informed due to improvements in social media and the internet.
People want Govt's to be a reflection of the public persona IMO.
Back in the 1990's people wanted the Govt to be like they were, risk averse, careful how they handled money and take the slow and steady approach, Howard and Costello nailed it.
20 years later, after a GFC a Worldwide pandemic, a 20 year period of low inflation and low interest rates, the advent of viable renewables etc the public persona has changed.
People are much greater risk takers, they have seen Govt's throw money out of the windows just print more, they are better informed therefore know that we will struggle in a conflict with China, so todays public has a much more live for the moment outlook.
The Libs trying to pretend that a 1990's approach is going to float, are dreaming, people have moved on Barnett and now McGowan know that and are just getting stuff done, worry about it later.
People are loving it, they are in hock up to their eyeballs living the dream, there is no way you will sell them the old austerity and we will fight them on the beaches story.
The Libs will never get into office, unless they get onto the programme, or there is a humungous financial collapse IMO.
There aren't many kids who listened to their parents and that is more so the case these days, the Libs need to get out of the blue tie and suit look. :2twocents
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So the Libs should just be McStalin clones?

That won't get them into office. You are right in identifying that the demographical profile has changed. Even the boomers have changed outlook, transmogrifying from laissez-faire capitalists into welfare state socialists (self interest there).

For completely different reasons millennials are also big gum't socialist statists, however the underlying reason is the same, demographics.

It seems obvious to me that the west will undergo a period of sovietization before, once again, said failed ideology again fails miserably.

I don't think that the people in the current Liberal Party have the intellectual capacity to navigate their way through that successfully.

And Zac Kirkup showed us that cucking to the left will ensure the worst of outcomes for the party.

Conclusion: we are in the midst of the fourth turning so buckle up. Both the Libs and the electorate will take a decade or more of taking it Greek style before the pendulum will shift back to sensible economics and politics once again.

Hopefully not too many people with a brain will have been tortured into beleiving 2 + 2 = 5
 
wayneL said:
So the Libs should just be McStalin clones?

That won't get them into office. You are right in identifying that the demographical profile has changed. Even the boomers have changed outlook, transmogrifying from laissez-faire capitalists into welfare state socialists (self interest there).

For completely different reasons millennials are also big gum't socialist statists, however the underlying reason is the same, demographics.

It seems obvious to me that the west will undergo a period of sovietization before, once again, said failed ideology again fails miserably.

I don't think that the people in the current Liberal Party have the intellectual capacity to navigate their way through that successfully.

And Zac Kirkup showed us that cucking to the left will ensure the worst of outcomes for the party.

Conclusion: we are in the midst of the fourth turning so buckle up. Both the Libs and the electorate will take a decade or more of taking it Greek style before the pendulum will shift back to sensible economics and politics once again.

Hopefully not too many people with a brain will have been tortured into beleiving 2 + 2 = 5
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WA Labor are just the Libs in different shirts. I've said it before, WA is a one-party state. We're just given the illusion it's a democracy by selecting the name the rulers call themselves every few years.

I doubt any single voter here could tell McGowan was a labor premier or we had a labor government from any of the policies. We're battling the nurses' union while spending millions building pools and sinking powerlines. We're taking 'donations' from the resources and giving them exemptions here, there, and everywhere and regional WA is still on par with 3rd world African countries.

I personally can't tell where Barnett stopped and Mcgowan started. But maybe that's a good thing?
IFocus said:
Ask Brendan Grylls about increasing royalty revenue.
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...And they got to him too!!! Amazing what a job in the resources sector can do for you!

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