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IFocus said:
We have one of the lowest vax rates among indigenous (rumour is thanks to religious nuts ) I am assuming its trying to change that they have been throwing every thing at the problem laugh if you like but the problem is real.

Locking the north west down is now being openly discussed should they open the state Feb 5th, the nasty debate is what's the reason oil and gas / mining or indigenous?
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Many Indigenous are deadset against it. I got a guy near me that drives a van with antivax slogans painted all over it.
The government made some bad advertising decisions and killed off an elder from what I was told.

cairnsnews.org

ABC’s vaxx pin-up Aboriginal dead six days after Covid shot

by the Covid Blog and Cairns News A 65-year-old Wakka Wakka tribal elder is dead after believing he was doing the right thing for his community by allowing the ABC to promote his vaxx shot to entic…
cairnsnews.org cairnsnews.org

They quickly tried to cover it up. But it became well known in the community. Clear explanations of risks vs reward would have been better.
 
moXJO said:
Many Indigenous are deadset against it. I got a guy near me that drives a van with antivax slogans painted all over it.
The government made some bad advertising decisions and killed off an elder from what I was told.

cairnsnews.org

ABC’s vaxx pin-up Aboriginal dead six days after Covid shot

by the Covid Blog and Cairns News A 65-year-old Wakka Wakka tribal elder is dead after believing he was doing the right thing for his community by allowing the ABC to promote his vaxx shot to entic…
cairnsnews.org cairnsnews.org

They quickly tried to cover it up. But it became well known in the community. Clear explanations of risks vs reward would have been better.
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I wish the editor had done some reporting.
 
wayneL said:
Stasi state
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Yeah...nah


"One of the Stasi's main tasks was spying on the population, primarily through a vast network of citizens-turned-informants, and fighting any opposition by overt and covert measures, including hidden psychological destruction of dissidents (Zersetzung, literally meaning "decomposition"). It arrested 250,000 people as political prisoners during its existence."

"It has been described as one of the most effective and repressive intelligence and secret police agencies to have ever existed."
 
It's kind of amusing you posted that unironically, @IFocus

Recognition of hyperbole really is dying in Oz, or do we just need to give it time? We already do have concentration camps, "papers please", Karen's and miserable snitches, so...
 
IFocus said:
Yeah...nah


"One of the Stasi's main tasks was spying on the population, primarily through a vast network of citizens-turned-informants, and fighting any opposition by overt and covert measures, including hidden psychological destruction of dissidents (Zersetzung, literally meaning "decomposition"). It arrested 250,000 people as political prisoners during its existence."

"It has been described as one of the most effective and repressive intelligence and secret police agencies to have ever existed."
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The interesting thing is, they believed they were doing it for the common good and had right on their side.
As most totalitarian states do.
 
sptrawler said:
The interesting thing is, they believed they were doing it for the common good and had right on their side.
As most totalitarian states do.
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And we all know so called extreme right Freedom Parties hang out with neo Nazis as witnessed in my home State.

 
Knobby22 said:
And we all know so called extreme right Freedom Parties hang out with neo Nazis as witnessed in my home State.

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Yes it won't be long before the unvaxxed have to wear a badge of some form, to warn the 'good' people to avoid them.
I am vaxxed and it was my choice.
 
Knobby22 said:
Believe it when I see it.
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Well the early stages of alienation are in place, tag them as neo Nazis limit public venues they can visit, it has been suggested that public funded healthcare access be removed for them.
You think making them wear an identifier is a bridge too far, interesting.
I would say a purpose built housing facility for them is a long stretch, but who knows, history has a habit of repeating.

www.abc.net.au

WA announces strictest proof of vaccination rules in Australia, requirement in place 'for years to come'

WA Premier Mark McGowan announces an expansion of proof of vaccination requirements as the state records two new local COVID-19 cases, with one linked to the Hyatt Hotel cluster.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
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sptrawler said:
Well the early stages of alienation are in place, tag them as neo Nazis limit public venues they can visit, it has been suggested that public funded healthcare access be removed for them.
You think making them wear an identifier is a bridge too far, interesting.
I would say a purpose built housing facility for them is a long stretch, but who knows, history has a habit of repeating.
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Im thinking a Medicare levy....went for a pint yesterday was asked for proof of vax and was given a wtistband to wear!
 
There was a guy there with mates who couldn't supply his cert so they wouldn't serve him but didnt ask him to leave lol
 
Humid said:
There was a guy there with mates who couldn't supply his cert so they wouldn't serve him but didnt ask him to leave lol
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That is an interesting one, they aren't concerned about the covid spreading issue, only punishment for not confirming.
It would have been interesting if he was aboriginal, trying to differentiate discrimination between colour, race and vaccination status.
I don't think it will be long before this is challenged in court, whether you are vaccinated or not doesn't stop you from getting and transmitting the virus, it only reduces the severity of the symptoms.
So why is it so important that the unvaccinated are punished?
They are using the excuse that the unvaccinated are bogging down the hospital's, but when they catch the virus they then have the same immunity as the vaccinated, so as the number of unvaccinated are so low just let them catch it why stop them from mixing with the vaccinated?
It definitely looks as though the main issue, is beating people into submission, so that there is 100% obedience.
 
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Wristbands eh?

Is it a step to far if the vaxxed get an ear-tag for easy identification? You know, like sheep(le)? ;)
 
wayneL said:
Wristbands eh?

Is it a step to far if the vaxxed get an ear-tag for easy identification? You know, like sheep(le)? ;)
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Probably easier to just chip them as vets do with pets, who knows? People kicked up about the Australia card 30 years ago, look at them now. ?

Australia Card - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

theconversation.com

Australia’s National Digital ID is here, but the government’s not talking about it

A new digital ID system will gather piles of personal information in one place – and you won’t have full control over who has access
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Humid said:
There was a guy there with mates who couldn't supply his cert so they wouldn't serve him but didnt ask him to leave lol
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Wait... so you can come in, but they stop at serving you a beer. What's the point?
They use to do this to the indigenous as well, back in the day. Wonder how that would go down if they tried it again.

Is it short memories or what?
 
moXJO said:
Wait... so you can come in, but they stop at serving you a beer. What's the point?
They use to do this to the indigenous as well, back in the day. Wonder how that would go down if they tried it again.

Is it short memories or what?
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NDIS will supply all unvaccinated with a bell, which they must ring as they walk in public, this will be to alert everyone they are unclean, unwanted and un Australian.
 
moXJO said:
Wait... so you can come in, but they stop at serving you a beer. What's the point?
They use to do this to the indigenous as well, back in the day. Wonder how that would go down if they tried it again.

Is it short memories or what?
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Not sure but the Pirate Life Californian pale ale with its slightly dialled back dankness and sturdy malt profile and backed by liberal amounts of US hops was fantastic!
 
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