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Looks pretty compelling YT. Not sure why BG haven't taken them out. Perhaps just waiting to confirm the Ps? Surely this result gives them quite a bit of confidence.
211 PJ's at 40cents a PJ = $84.4m = Approx $85m
By my understanding kipp,
A company may have 1P, 2P, and 3P reserves.
If a company has just 3P and no 1 or 2 P shored up, it means it just has the Possible GIP. So, the key is to get to the 1P, which is the Proven P.
3P simply adds up the 3Ps...
Yes it seems that it is not just YT that saw the announcement today. A nice rise indeed.
Well it is frontier country as far as csg goes in a new basin. Those in here should watch ECU closely as they are further advanced in the Gallilee than anyone else I can find. Coals are deeper in the Gallilee - nearly at 1000 metres, and some deeper so there lies the risk. I'm watching ECU with anticipation on Rocky Creek to see if Gallilee will be the goods or not. Only time will tell. Clive might build us a rail line at some stage and that would be nice. Good luck to those holding!
As to who will be the next PES, my money would be on ESG or BOW, but that's just my opinion. (disclosure, I hold ESG only)
ESG has such a huge market CAP right now though....
Market Capital
$849 million
Based on a share price of only $1.00 (it is at a low share price at the moment compared to where it has been in recent times)
PES @ $8 had a Market Cap of 900 Million Dollars !!
Current Market cap of Westside: 62 Million $$ at 53 cents per share -- MUCH more room to grow Share Price wise and very analagous to PES !! i.e PES had a Market cap of around the same as Westside at around 50-60 cents per share
ESG is too diluted. (I do have ESG shares as well though so I don't want to jinx its current share price )
BOW is not bad but again has a 316 Million Dollar Market Cap at $1.48 .. My money is sitting firmly on WCL all the way to the takeover and/or possible bidding war.
Oh, I also noticed COI has a jump in its share price TODAY on an announcement of an award of LAND in the same BASIN as the WCL ZONE -- that Galilee Basin.... Interesting! COI has DOUBLE the Market Cap of WCL though
grace, any idea on how much flow rates improve with time. Or is it all apples and oranges and pears? kennasYou must remember to compare apples with apples here. PES would flow gas at 750 000 scfpd on some drills. Up there with the best! I noticed a drill on WCL started at 28 000. Quite poor - although they are getting some success in other areas I think. It is all about getting commercial flow rates.
ESG flows are very good too. Started at 250 000, and after dewatering I think they are more than 500 000 (need to check to confirm, but from memory). A nice reserve upgrade will come before Christmas too from new pilots that have been very good.
Watch for those flow rates and you will be on the money. Do your calcs on PJ of 2P and 3P and then compare to Market Value.
grace, any idea on how much flow rates improve with time. Or is it all apples and oranges and pears? kennas
eeeek, that seems pretty damn ordinary!If it flows at 28 000 scfd to start with, I don't think it would ever make it even with dewatering. Need 300 000 scfd for commercial flow.
The key points in Voelte’s criticism of coal seam gas are technical and financial, starting with an observation that “the coal-seam guys are having a bit of difficulty with their economics.”
“What happened 18 months ago is that you had coal-seam euphoria,” he says. Some of that euphoria was created by “guys who knew what the game was”, and that game was to declare a large resource of coal seam gas “and get out”.
Those who sold, Voelte says, “were smart as hell”. “They got out and other people paid huge prices and now they’re trying to figure out how to make these plants work. And, what are they running into? They’re running into [questions such as] how do you drill this many wells and keep them all running?
“What in the hell do you do with the water? You have to treat the water, and while some is clean, some is saline, some has magnesium and manganese and its really going to be a high-cost disposal issue.
“Number three: they’re finding out you have to compress all this stuff when it comes out. There’s not a lot of pressure to get it down to Gladstone. What happens is that if you take a close look at the Santos environmental impact statement, and look at the efficiency of the plant, everybody first thought this is all methane, without any carbon dioxide exposure, that these are going to be low-cost plants to build for the emissions trading system. Aah … wrong.”
Voelte says a rating of efficiency (greenhouse emissions per tonne of LNG) shows a clear advantage for conventional natural gas over coal seam gas.
“This is not me talking,” he says. “This is if you go look at their environmental impact statements. There’s been a late flurry of the coal seam guys working with [Climate Change Minister] Penny Wong, and you heard [Queensland Premier] Anna Bligh say we may just except coal seam methane from the emissions trading scheme, which [laughs] ain’t going to happen.”
According to Voelte, coal seam projects have a problem with emissions that is far greater than the emissions issue facing the North-West Shelf. “Their permitting [cost] on a unit basis is going to be more than double on a unit basis, which is horrific.
“Then you have the problems of gathering the gas, and starting the plant, with talk of building a surge bottle, which means an underground reservoir to store gas and act as a regulator.”
Voelte’s powerful criticism, which continues on to the question of gas quality and the possible need to blend coal seam gas with conventional natural gas, raises questions that few people outside the world of gas have previously considered; and while they come with an admitted degree of bias, they are questions to be considered.
So what happened when the coal seam boom hit the Australian stockmarket? “In my opinion, euphoria happened. The smart guys got out, and now there are other guys hung with big depreciations and the quiet word is that they’re all struggling to make the economics work.”
At best, Voelte is playing the role of Devil’s Advocate in questioning the economics of coal seam gas. At worst, he is saying the coal seam boom is over before it even starts.
Did you guys read what the WPL Exec Don Voelte had to say about CSG in the Eureka Report?
definately something to think about.... makes me think CSG is no longer a long term play... would be nice to get out before the "herd" realises this
granted he has a vested interest but still, some interesting questions to ponder.
If it flows at 28 000 scfd to start with, I don't think it would ever make it even with dewatering. Need 300 000 scfd for commercial flow.
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