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Victorian Politics

This is a politician. First step open they gob just to change feet, and then stuff both in.
 
Absolutely disgusting behaviour from Labor. “Families should be off-limits.”

Victorian ALP secretary Steve Staikos defended the post, declaring it was “not a personal attack at all”.
“It’s supposed to be a comedic meme,” Mr Staikos said.
When asked whether the post used a doctored screenshot, Mr Staikos said: “I don’t agree.”
Victorian Premier Jacinta Allan’s office declined to comment on Monday about the Facebook post on the party’s account, which also features prominent photos of her together with Mr Albanese.


 
Well it worked for Labor with Morrison, so why not roll out the personal attacks again?
 
Well it worked for Labor with Morrison, so why not roll out the personal attacks again?
Shows that there is very little of substance when it comes to politicians.
So much easier to throw mud than get down to the nitty gritty and make the other side squirm when a bit of truth hits out front.
 
I don’t think they involved his family at the time.
Apart from taking the teenage daughters away when a bushfire was on, it was a national disgrace, now we have bushfires all over the place and no one gives a ratz about where politicians are.
It all revolves around the optics, Morrison was unpleasant so copped it, Albo is insipid, so everyone feels sorry for him and cut him a lot of slack, that's human nature and the media playing to it. Lol
 
A wheelbarrow with a square wheel would be of more use than this pair of di**heads.
 
A wheelbarrow with a square wheel would be of more use than this pair of di**heads.
Very true, but in three years Snowy2.0 was started, Kurri Kurri power station was started, the country was shut down with covid and welfare payments were doubled and companies helped to keep people employed so the economy rebounded, a vaccine production facility was organised to be built and the useless French diesel subs were cancelled and nuclear alternatives sourced.

Meanwhile, the last three years, the voice and the axe taken to the NDIS, which needed to happen IMO.

Just shows the power of the press, in bending perceptions.

Not that I liked Morrison I always thought him and arrogant piece of work, but it can't be said he did nothing, whereas as Albo keeps saying he is always underestimated, maybe not he is a clever operator at the small target game.

Politics these days is all about optics and if you have the media in your corner.
 
This is the greatest argument against democracy, because the majority of people are incapable of seeing and analysing beyond that.
Personally I liked the old model where the public service and anything else owned or run by government (eg utilities) was expected to be firmly professional and steer the ship.

In practice what happened is the relevant department or authority identified the options, evaluated them all, and produced a recommendation for approval by government along with detailing the reasons for favouring it over alternatives.

The role of government, the politicians, was then to scrutinise senior people in the relevant department to ensure they had in fact looked at all the options, ask probing questions about any assumptions made, ask anything else of relevance eg whether the project will employ local labour, whether there's an opportunity to take on trainees or apprentices as part of it, and so on before giving the final yes / no to it.

As with anything, no doubt someone can find exceptions where it didn't produce ideal outcomes but mostly it did, it got things done and is how most of our long established public infrastructure came into being. Some would argue it's undemocratic, since unelected bureaucrats are making the recommendations, but I'll argue that's what professional competence requires. It needs real experts on whatever subject to assess the situation and make recommendations, the role of politics being to hold them to account and make sure they're acting professionally in society's best interests. We don't need elected MP's themselves assessing geology or working out how to schedule the trains.
 
Back then @Smurf1976 , there was no money in one option over another to those public servants, they were paid to just present the facts.

Now there is a huge amount of money to be made by those who make the presentations and those who win the contract, so the outcome is driven by different motives IMO.
Just my two cents worth.
 
That looks like a very ordinary, generic dining table that wouldn't be out of place in any random suburban home. Something similar could be found in any random furniture shop.

Surely that's not the actual table they paid $40k for? Incredible if it is.
 
@Smurf1976 Obviously the in-laid gold is missing for the photo shoot.
 
My Dad was in the furniture game and did some custom work for governments.... Usually embassies here in Oz and even the Sultan of Jahore.

Expense was no object and it was easy to substantially pad the invoice.

One job was for two settees for the French consulate. Fabric was pure silk and it came to 12k back in eighties when that was a 5hit-ton of money.

Mind you it was a bit more classy than an IKEA-esque dining table.
 
It is just a case of Australian Governments, State and Federal, with bogan mentalities IMO.
50 years ago Australia lived off the sheeps back and it didn't pay much, so Governments were carefull and voters were carefull who the voted in.
Then the resources boom came and with it a bucket load of cash, that politicians had no forethought when throwing it around and everyone was happy.
Well that is comming home to roost and the politicians that realise it first, will win a long term in office, because even the muppets realise this isnt sustainable. Lol
 
Its not just government, the suits in private enterprise are just as bad.
Look at some of the ridiculous salaries paid to the top echelons, the private jets, the tax deductible lunches, overseas conferences at the best hotels, the luxury cars, the imperiously appointed offices.
there would be amny a board room table in the upper floors of private enterprise that make the 40k government table look like a cheap coffee table.
It takes a very special and humble person to not be seduced by the trappings of high office, whether it be public or private.
Mick
 
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