VCR - Ventracor Limited

[jammin]

I gave up on these a long time ago. I was in early but fell into the trap of increasing my holding at $2.25 along with a lot of other true believers in the product. They seem to prefer to raise funds at discount prices to institutions which as you say dilutes the share value as the market cap does not increase.

I was considering the "opportunity" to increase my holding, which is trading at a small discount to my purchase price of $1.72, but when the SP closed today below the discounted opportunity of $0.80 I kind of lost interest. What now interests me is who is selling at less than $0.80. Is it the instos getting out already and/or believers like nioka who are sick of the share value dilution.
It cannot bode well for VCR in their bid to raise more funds.

 

[drmb]

I was considering the "opportunity" to increase my holding, which is trading at a small discount to my purchase price of $1.72, but when the SP closed today below the discounted opportunity of $0.80 I kind of lost interest. What now interests me is who is selling at less than $0.80. Is it the instos getting out already and/or believers like nioka who are sick of the share value dilution. It cannot bode well for VCR in their bid to raise more funds.

I hold a small parcel but have been disappointed for a long time with the sp progress. Seems to me the sp is down at the levels when it was first launched, when it had nothing but a hope and expectation of greater things. Yet it now has TGA etc approvals, many devices sucessfully implanted, etc

Mystery to me and all the while 4th generation devices are creeping up on it.

Maybe lack of communication - I know I have tried emailing vcr a few times but never ever get a response.

 

[visual]

lovely,
vcr, up 12% on a blood bath day,obviously some news in the pipe works,this always seems to be the give away sign for vcr.And no sign of insider trading.cough cough.

 

[drmb]

lovely,
vcr, up 12% on a blood bath day,obviously some news in the pipe works,this always seems to be the give away sign for vcr.And no sign of insider trading.cough cough.

The buzz on HC is VCR seem to be actively recruting for specialist positions but no mention of this on their website. www.seek.com.au and search on Ventracor

 

[Lucky_Country]

Well VCR having a bounce vastly oversold imo.
Revenues growing DT news imminent wider acceptance of product with more centre coming onstream dare I say it is this the turning point.
Someone surely casting an eye over VCR for a takeover would like too see a chanbge in substanstial holding notice go through and see instos taking a position if they already havent with these bargin prices.

 

[Magdoran]

Well VCR having a bounce vastly oversold imo.
Revenues growing DT news imminent wider acceptance of product with more centre coming onstream dare I say it is this the turning point.
Someone surely casting an eye over VCR for a takeover would like too see a chanbge in substanstial holding notice go through and see instos taking a position if they already havent with these bargin prices.

Right, just like Rocky and Bullwinkle, “this time for surrrrreeee!” –

“Quick, quick, buy it by the truck load, you’re going to make billions and quadzillions…” - translation – please please please buy and push the price up to where I bought it so I can bail out of this dog at break even.

I’d be interested to see Ducati’s view on this…

Respectfully this stock is SPECULATIVE, and has been in a downtrend since August 2003.

I think that the amount of “pending wonder” stories I’ve read on this stock is rapidly approaching infinity over the years.

When has this stock turned a positive year’s return on investment and paid a dividend, or not recorded a loss? Are you saying this is a growth stock???

Are there any years this stock has not been significantly diluted with new share placements?

The “it’s coming” line has been run by management, rampers, and hopefuls who are in love with this stock for 4 years now.

Certainly the pattern in the stock may be a bit like an ending diagonal technically, but it will be a long time even if this actually moves into any kind of uptrend for this stock based on the pattern I can see. Sure it may even do its pattern of rallying up hard, only to be sold back down into the floor. What’s different about it this time?

Fundamentally, let’s have some compelling evidence presented, and arguments that convince Ducati who did considerable research on VCR and published his detailed views which I still subscribe to 4 years later, starting from 2003 when I witnessed some polemics on another site, and the VCR rampers charlatans and worshippers all duped hundreds of investors into investing their money into VCR at the top, and those that are still in the stock have lost the majority of their money as the share value has been diluted like “blood into water”.

I remain unconvinced. Please someone put up a convincing in depth well constructed argument as to why anything has changed with facts, or shut up. If you can convince Ducati then I might reconsider. If not, please, end this repetition of the “this time for sure” type of post.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Hi Mags I hope things are well.

.... cheap, on sale, discounted, a bargain, undervalued, oversold, etc. etc.
I enjoyed your comments and await Ducs reply.

I like shopping for discounts in SHOPS. Cheap BOOKS; love them.

Regards
Snake

 

[ducati916]

Mag's

Indeed that was a bitter and acrimonius battle that resulted in the entire site being shut-down for a couple of days under the threat of legal action from "The Rock"

To be honest I haven't looked at VCR for quite some time. It may well be time to revisit this old friend.

jog on
d998

 

[nioka]

To be honest I haven't looked at VCR for quite some time. It may well be time to revisit this old friend.

To be honest I have and I still do not look at it as an old friend or as something to get excited about. I couldn't see the bounce either only a small blip.

 

[ducati916]

VCR.............hideous as ever!

The analysis is on my blog for any interested.
Need 100 characters.

jog on
d998

 

[drmb]

VCR.............hideous as ever! The analysis is on my blog for any interested. Need 100 characters. jog on d998

"Hideous" may be too kind a word after today's dump! Dog status in my books confirmed, glad I am out now but it is sad to see this dive to 0.56 down -0.03(-5%) on vol 2.5 mil. 52 weeks ago was 1.195. Have to go back more than 6 years to find this low, thus no historical support lines, and could free fall again. Was destined supposedly for Aussie icon status, a la Cochlear when it started in the Aust Hearing Centre in Chatswood, but now destined for history books it would seem. Care to catch a javelin??

 

[shaunnell]

I took no notice of my stop-loss as I believed this company has a good product and is now starting to earn an income. Most trials are nearing completion with excellent results so I have no idea why this is trading so low.
A conspiracy theorist may believe the directors are driving the price lower so their options they receive soon are at a low price. I see in their AGM they want to increase director fees by nearly 50%.
Can anyone see any light in this long, dark tunnel?

 

[PhoenixXx]

Can anyone see any light in this long, dark tunnel?

Not for me unfortunately.
Looking back to few months ago when they had a capital raising and gave the shareholders the 'grand opportunity' to invest more in 80ct

 

[nioka]

Not for me unfortunately.
Looking back to few months ago when they had a capital raising and gave the shareholders the 'grand opportunity' to invest more in 80ct

Look a little further back and they gave us another grand opportunity to invest at $2.25. An offer which I unfortunately took up. Fortunately I had bought in early and when they fell below my average price I exited. I bought back in again later at what I thought was a discount only to exit again for another small loss. They are now on a watch list called "Just watch". They bark.

 

[drmb]

....They bark.

Agreed - the story of VCR at the moment is the rallies and spikes on the price sensitive announcements are getting smaller, and lasting less. Eg this afternoon's ann of the 150th implant (a milestone of some note) sent price momentarily to 60 (for less than an hour) before dropping back below 60c. Woof, woof!

 

[shaunnell]

"Hideous" may be too kind a word after today's dump! Dog status in my books confirmed, glad I am out now but it is sad to see this dive to 0.56 down -0.03(-5%) on vol 2.5 mil. 52 weeks ago was 1.195. Have to go back more than 6 years to find this low, thus no historical support lines, and could free fall again. Was destined supposedly for Aussie icon status, a la Cochlear when it started in the Aust Hearing Centre in Chatswood, but now destined for history books it would seem. Care to catch a javelin??

Seems the chairman agrees with you. His address to shareholders barely contains his frustration with the share price.

 

[Bazmate]

It certainly hasn't been a fun ride with this one but with revenue increasing from Europe, Aus, and US trials, also a few other good announcements expected, US BTT approval update expected today, we could be starting another nice run up to Christmas.

Do people get warm fuzzies about Biotechs at Christmas or what??

 

[Miner]

Keith Neilson in Inside trader has recommended this VCR as a buy at 62 cents.
However he has cleverly qualified his note as if you gain, he wins and if you loose listening then also he wins.
There is a punt of VCR competitor acceptance on 30 Nov by USA government and VCR equipment is of latest third generation.

Rgards
PS: I do not hold any VCR share

 

[Lucky_Country]

Well have we rebounded off the bottom and starting an upward trend ?
Big jump today maybe news on the way increase in implants maybe ? profitability ?
Certainly some interest would love too see a substantial shareholders notice go through !

 

[reece55]

Well have we rebounded off the bottom and starting an upward trend ?
Big jump today maybe news on the way increase in implants maybe ? profitability ?
Certainly some interest would love too see a substantial shareholders notice go through !

Even ABN Amro have stopped touting this ultra dilution entity.....

All I can say is that this company has done nothing but burn money from day one..... it's burning through about 15 Mil a half, 38 Mil left at Dec, I give it a year before they retap and dilute the s*&^ out of everyone again!

Yes, nice bounce, but the long term trend is dooooooooooooooooooooowwnnnn...

Cheers