USA ousting governments they don't like: What happens afterwards?

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basilio said:

Most people are aware that the US routinely exercises it's God given right to decide the Government that leads countries in which it has an economic interest. Have you ever wondered how this comes about and the longer term consequences of such interventions ?

I was doing some research recently and came across the story of the Banana massacre in Colombia in 1928. Short story was that workers attempted to organise themselves in Colombia to improve their appalling conditions at the hands of the United Fruit Co and ended up being machine gunned at the behest of the US government. United Fruit controlled much of Central and South America through it's extensive plantations. In 1944 there was a democratic change of government in Guatemala but the US decided they were not acceptable and organised a coup in 1954. The consequences were a bloody 30 year civil war.

Banana massacre
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Banana massacre

Leaders of the banana plantations workers' strike. From left to right: Pedro M. del Río, Bernardino Guerrero, Raúl Eduardo Mahecha, Nicanor Serrano and Erasmo Coronel. Guerrero and Coronel were killed by the Colombian army. Fis
The Banana massacre (Spanish: Matanza de las bananeras[1] or Masacre de las bananeras) was a massacre of workers for the United Fruit Company that occurred on December 6, 1928 in the town of Ciénaga near Santa Marta, Colombia. After U.S. officials in Colombia, along with United Fruit representatives, portrayed the worker's strike as "communist" with "subversive tendency", in telegrams to the U.S. Secretary of State,[2] the United States government threatened to invade with the U.S. Marine Corps if the Colombian government did not act to protect United Fruit’s interests. An unknown number of workers died[3] after the conservative government of Miguel Méndez sent the Colombian army to end a union strike for better working conditions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre

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1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
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1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
Date 18–27 June 1954
Location Guatemala
Result Jacobo Árbenz overthrown; Guatemalan Revolution ended; military junta assumes power.
Belligerents
Guatemalan Government Military of Guatemala
Guatemalan exile rebels Supported by:

United States

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Commanders and leaders
Jacobo Árbenz
Carlos Enrique Díaz Carlos Castillo Armas
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Allen Dulles


U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, the advocate of the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état that installed the right-wing dictatorship
Covert United States involvement in regime change
1949 Syrian coup d'état
1949–1953 Albania
1951–56 Tibet
1953 Iranian coup d'état
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
1956–57 Syria crisis
1960 Congo coup d'état
1961 Cuba, Bay of Pigs Invasion
1961 Dominican Republic
1963 South Vietnamese coup
1964 Bolivian coup d'état
1964 Brazilian coup d'état
1966 Ghana coup d'état
1971 Bolivian coup d'état
1970–73 Chile
1980 Turkish coup d'état
1979–89 Afghanistan, Operation Cyclone
1981–87 Nicaragua, Contras
1996 Iraq coup attempt
2001 Afghanistan
2011 Libyan civil war
2011–present Syria

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The 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état was a covert operation carried out by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that deposed the democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Árbenz and ended the Guatemalan Revolution of 1944–54. Code-named Operation PBSUCCESS, it installed the military dictatorship of Carlos Castillo Armas, the first in a series of U.S.-backed authoritarian rulers in Guatemala.

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Congress, the CIA, and Guatemala, 1954
UNCLASSIFIED
Sterilizing a "Red Infection"

Congress, the CIA, and Guatemala, 1954
David M. Barrett

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...lligence/kent-csi/vol44no5/html/v44i5a03p.htm

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luutzu said:

Those are the "hard" coups. There's plenty of "soft" ones.

Gore Vidal said the US has been involved in over 200 foreign intervention since WW2.

All these just for money. I mean they could buy and trade with those countries for a whole lot less, without any blood and destruction.

But then if that's the approach, the corporations will have to fork out the cash themselves. With war and liberation, the taxpayers pay for it

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Jorgensen said:

I do not think the US is only interested in trade.In the 1980s the US congress etc got historians to lecture, or inform,on the Roman Empire.How they managed to dominate their world for so long.Vidal says that their empire building started with the invasion of the Phillipines in early 1900s.But since WW2 the real acceleration began.
The North Korean problem would have been solved in the 1990s.North Korea wanted assurances that the US would not pursue regime change.In return they would desist their nuclear program.This of course was unacceptable.

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OmegaTrader said:

What about Gough Whitlam? Any us interference there?

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basilio said:

Most people are aware that the US routinely exercises it's God given right to decide the Government that leads countries in which it has an economic interest. Have you ever wondered how this comes about and the longer term consequences of such interventions ?

I was doing some research recently and came across the story of the Banana massacre in Colombia in 1928. Short story was that workers attempted to organise themselves in Colombia to improve their appalling conditions at the hands of the United Fruit Co and ended up being machine gunned at the behest of the US government. United Fruit controlled much of Central and South America through it's extensive plantations. In 1944 there was a democratic change of government in Guatemala but the US decided they were not acceptable and organised a coup in 1954. The consequences were a bloody 30 year civil war.

Banana massacre
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Banana massacre

Leaders of the banana plantations workers' strike. From left to right: Pedro M. del Río, Bernardino Guerrero, Raúl Eduardo Mahecha, Nicanor Serrano and Erasmo Coronel. Guerrero and Coronel were killed by the Colombian army. Fis
The Banana massacre (Spanish: Matanza de las bananeras[1] or Masacre de las bananeras) was a massacre of workers for the United Fruit Company that occurred on December 6, 1928 in the town of Ciénaga near Santa Marta, Colombia. After U.S. officials in Colombia, along with United Fruit representatives, portrayed the worker's strike as "communist" with "subversive tendency", in telegrams to the U.S. Secretary of State,[2] the United States government threatened to invade with the U.S. Marine Corps if the Colombian government did not act to protect United Fruit’s interests. An unknown number of workers died[3] after the conservative government of Miguel Méndez sent the Colombian army to end a union strike for better working conditions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre

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1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
Date 18–27 June 1954
Location Guatemala
Result Jacobo Árbenz overthrown; Guatemalan Revolution ended; military junta assumes power.
Belligerents
Guatemalan Government Military of Guatemala
Guatemalan exile rebels Supported by:

United States

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Commanders and leaders
Jacobo Árbenz
Carlos Enrique Díaz Carlos Castillo Armas
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Allen Dulles


U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower and Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, the advocate of the 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état that installed the right-wing dictatorship
Covert United States involvement in regime change
1949 Syrian coup d'état
1949–1953 Albania
1951–56 Tibet
1953 Iranian coup d'état
1954 Guatemalan coup d'état
1956–57 Syria crisis
1960 Congo coup d'état
1961 Cuba, Bay of Pigs Invasion
1961 Dominican Republic
1963 South Vietnamese coup
1964 Bolivian coup d'état
1964 Brazilian coup d'état
1966 Ghana coup d'état
1971 Bolivian coup d'état
1970–73 Chile
1980 Turkish coup d'état
1979–89 Afghanistan, Operation Cyclone
1981–87 Nicaragua, Contras
1996 Iraq coup attempt
2001 Afghanistan
2011 Libyan civil war
2011–present Syria

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The 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état was a covert operation carried out by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that deposed the democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Árbenz and ended the Guatemalan Revolution of 1944–54. Code-named Operation PBSUCCESS, it installed the military dictatorship of Carlos Castillo Armas, the first in a series of U.S.-backed authoritarian rulers in Guatemala.

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Congress, the CIA, and Guatemala, 1954
UNCLASSIFIED
Sterilizing a "Red Infection"

Congress, the CIA, and Guatemala, 1954
David M. Barrett

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...lligence/kent-csi/vol44no5/html/v44i5a03p.htm

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PZ99 said:

We could probably add Ecuador , Panama and Iraq - 2003 to that list

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basilio said:

Throughout the 1970s and the 1980s, Noriega was able to manipulate US policy toward his country, while skilfully accumulating near-absolute power in Panama. It is clear that each US government agency which had a relationship with Noriega turned a blind eye to his corruption and drug dealing.” Noriega was allowed to establish “the hemisphere’s first narco-kleptocracy”

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basilio said:

Manuel Noriega has died at 83. He was the brutal Panama dictator who was eventually overthrown by a US invasion in 1989. However he was also another US created dictator who just went feral.

Manuel Noriega: feared dictator was the man who knew too much
Panamanian general was a CIA asset and go-between in Central America’s dirty wars but became a monster the US could not control

.....Noriega, who died on Monday at the age of 83, was right to be nervous. The October coup attempt marked a turning point in Washington’s attitude to a man whose rise to power it had assisted, who became a valued CIA cold war asset and go-between in Central America’s dirty wars, but who turned into a monster US spy bosses could no longer control. Noriega had outlived his usefulness. Now he was an embarrassment. So Bush made him America’s most wanted.

.... Human rights and security aside, Bush had plenty of personal reasons for wanting Noriega out of the way. As CIA director and two-term vice-president to Ronald Reagan prior to 1988, Bush was implicated, by association, in often illegal, covert interventions in the civil wars in El Salvador and Nicaragua. During this period, Noriega, who rose to head the Panamanian security forces, became a highly paid informant and CIA “asset”.

Noriega helped the US to combat Cuban, and thus Soviet, influence in the region. He acted as an intermediary with US-backed contra rebels fighting Daniel Ortega’s leftwing Sandinista government and with the Salvadoran government and rebels. Death squads, random killings and torture characterised these murderous conflicts. Noriega was also closely associated with the Colombian Medellin drug cartel of Pablo Escobar.



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Lt Col Oliver North: Noriega claimed the US turned on him after his refusal to help provide arms for North’s contra rebels. Photograph: Lana Harris/AP
Funds from drug trafficking were used to buy arms, pay fighters and suborn government officials. Noriega later claimed it was his refusal to help Lt Col Oliver North provide arms for the contra rebels in Nicaragua that triggered the US decision to drop him. North was the White House’s infamous covert operations pointman and a central figure in the Iran-contra scandal that shook the Reagan presidency.

Noriega’s knowledge of US operations in Central America was detailed and highly compromising. He was said to have met Bush in person on more than one occasion. During the 1988 presidential campaign, Michael Dukakis, the Democrat nominee, attacked Bush for his close relationship with “Panamanian drug lord Noriega”. When Bush, as president, launched his signature “war on drugs”, Republicans worried about possible embarrassing contradictions.

In 1988, in the wake of Iran-contra, a Senate committee concluded: “The saga of ... Noriega represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures for the United States. Throughout the 1970s and the 1980s, Noriega was able to manipulate US policy toward his country, while skilfully accumulating near-absolute power in Panama. It is clear that each US government agency which had a relationship with Noriega turned a blind eye to his corruption and drug dealing.” Noriega was allowed to establish “the hemisphere’s first narco-kleptocracy”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-noriega-feared-panamanian-dictator-cia-asset
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/27/manuel-noriega-us-friend-foe

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DB008 said:

Qasem Soleimani killed in Baghdad Airport, Pentagon,
IRGC confirm
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"The American and Israeli enemy is responsible for killing the mujahideen
Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis and Qassem Soleimani," said Iraqi PMF spokesman Ahmed al-Assadi.
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The Pentagon confirmed Thursday night that the US is responsible for killing Qasem Soleimani, commander of the IRGC Quds Force, in an airstrike inside Baghdad International Airport, along with Iraqi militia commander Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis. The Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces spokesperson claimed that Israel and the US are behind the attack.

"At the direction of the President, the US military has taken decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad by killing Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, a US-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization," the Pentagon's statement reads.​

"General Soleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region," the statement continues. "General Soleimani and his Quds Force were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American and coalition service members and the wounding of thousands more."

According to the statement, Soleimani had orchestrated attacks on coalition bases in Iraq over the last several months – "including the attack on December 27th - culminating in the death and wounding of additional American and Iraqi personnel."

"General Soleimani also approved the attacks on the US Embassy in Baghdad that took place this week," the Pentagon added.​

"This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans. The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world."​

Iraq's Security Media Cell announced late Thursday night that three katyusha rockets had targeted Baghdad Airport.​

https://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Four-rockets-land-on-Baghdad-airport-report-612947​

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chiff said:

I believe Australian troops are involved in training UAE troops,who are inside Yemen involved in a civil war.I wonder how many Australian 'advisers' are with them.Not much surprises me any more.

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chiff said:

I believe Australian troops are involved in training UAE troops,who are inside Yemen involved in a civil war.I wonder how many Australian 'advisers' are with them.Not much surprises me any more.

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sptrawler said:

Iraq Has asked the U.S to remove its troops, maybe Trump isn't too upset about that, I guess a lot of the troops will be glad to go home.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/iraqi-parliament-votes-in-favor-of-expelling-u-s-troops-11578236473

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