JohnDe
La dolce vita
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Sums it up if you are a retard. Focusing on that one incident and ignoring everything else is real legit. Getting to a ceasefire prevents more casualties. Rough estimate is about 2000 killed/wounded both sides. We go all out war to push Russia out and its going to be tens of thousands. When did resolving a war through diplomacy become such a second thought?Comment sums it up
Let ‘s get a truly unprecedented event straight: Trump betrayed an ally at war a second time.
He reduced the indiscriminate destruction of his ally ‘s country to a ‘bad negotiating position’. Reduced the heroic and justified defense of a nation to ‘refusing to make peace’.
Trump accused the beleaguered president, NOT the attacker, of ‘gambling with the start of WWIII’, simply for refusing to surrender. Acting under the delusion of being a great dealmaker, he pushed the monetization of his ally ‘s distress by forcing him into making a ‘good deal’ and just wouldn‘t stop using the ‘playing cards’ expression.
Adding insult to injury, Trump and Vance whined about the lack of gratitude they experienced for their betrayal. All this happened while this foreign head of state was a guest in their house.
In doing so, Trump followed Putin ‘s agenda like a slave. As usual.
This whole disaster of incompetence unfolded IN THE WHITE HOUSE, IN FRONT OF THE WORLD PRESS, with Trump jesting that it was ‘great television’. MAGA just means: making America the laughing stock again, isolated, shunned, alone.
Who is going to investigate the ‘kompromat’ that Putin has over Trump?
In reality, Zelenskyy in typical arrogant left wing protocol, went to Trump for handout money, Trump said only on these conditions Zelensky said no and then they started arguing.Comment sums it up
Let ‘s get a truly unprecedented event straight: Trump betrayed an ally at war a second time.
He reduced the indiscriminate destruction of his ally ‘s country to a ‘bad negotiating position’. Reduced the heroic and justified defense of a nation to ‘refusing to make peace’.
Trump accused the beleaguered president, NOT the attacker, of ‘gambling with the start of WWIII’, simply for refusing to surrender. Acting under the delusion of being a great dealmaker, he pushed the monetization of his ally ‘s distress by forcing him into making a ‘good deal’ and just wouldn‘t stop using the ‘playing cards’ expression.
Adding insult to injury, Trump and Vance whined about the lack of gratitude they experienced for their betrayal. All this happened while this foreign head of state was a guest in their house.
In doing so, Trump followed Putin ‘s agenda like a slave. As usual.
This whole disaster of incompetence unfolded IN THE WHITE HOUSE, IN FRONT OF THE WORLD PRESS, with Trump jesting that it was ‘great television’. MAGA just means: making America the laughing stock again, isolated, shunned, alone.
Who is going to investigate the ‘kompromat’ that Putin has over Trump?
In reality, Zelenskyy in typical arrogant left wing protocol, went to Trump for handout money, Trump said only on these conditions Zelensky said no and then they started arguing.
Zelenskyy's fall back position was for Europe to come to the party and stump up the money, the U.K wants to lend it to them, which is the same as Trump just put a different way.
The EU kind of looks down and starts mumbling and kicking the stones around at their feet, which is what the EU does.
So now the left wing approach of brow beating and demanding has failed, they have to go back to the U.S cap in hand and mumbling sorry.
Obviously the left wing lunatics, ran up against right wing lunatics and reality broke through as usually happens, eventually..
He just repeats Russian propaganda. They have not spend half as much as he said. Hope he gets a peace treaty. If it's just a temporary ceasefire then this war will continue.
if that was true, Zelenskyy would tell Trump to pizz of and get the UK and EU to sort it out, you must dream this stuff up.What? Nothing to do with left politics. Trump wanted a deal with no guarantee no sfa but was going to take minerals for nothing meanwhile Russia keeps killing its neighbour which bit did you miss? Trump is a coward fine just a note on US spending they sent all their old ordinance equipment with limitations and only recently sent high end weapons.
There’s economic method behind the Trumpian upheaval
Decades ago I read a quote from a sage who opined that politics was a product of economics, and economics, in turn, a product of the human condition – or something along those lines.
I’ve never been able since to track down who said it, but the truth of the observation struck me.
Donald Trump’s plans to up-end the global trading system by imposing hefty tariffs on even US allies have shocked and infuriated elite opinion everywhere. So has his refusal to offer formal security guarantees to Ukraine and seeming total lack of interest in continuing the US-led proxy war with Russia.
While Trump’s rhetorical justifications vary, these policies likely have the same underlying economic cause. The American fiscal position is diabolically bad.
Washington simply can’t afford to support another forever war in Ukraine, quite aside from the likely loss of life that ultimately includes US troops.
The tsunami of TDS (Trump derangement syndrome) that has crashed over newsrooms right and left in recent weeks has left the public largely clueless about this undeniable fact.
The US has World War II levels of debt without having remotely fought a world war. Public debt as a share of GDP in the US is already 100 per cent and on track for 118 per cent within a decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Spending on interest already exceeds spending on the military. US budget deficits of $US2 trillion ($3.1 trillion) a year, more than 6 per cent of GDP, have been pencilled in as far as the eye can see.
As the minter of the world’s reserve currency the US can get away with such profligacy for a lot longer than other nations but not forever. The Afghanistan quagmire cost the US more than $US1 trillion across 20 years according to estimates from Brown University. Imagine the cost of a conventional war with Russia on the other side of the world.
Similarly, Trump’s highly controversial plans to jack up tariffs can be seen as a covert way to raise revenues without resorting to politically toxic tax increases.
Indeed, Republicans can even say tariffs are not about revenue but the politically appealing goal of “bringing jobs home”, however much economists may dispute that likelihood. Think of the tariffs as a consumption tax that would never be passed by a Republican-controlled Senate.
In 2024 the Washington-based Tax Foundation estimated that a 20 per cent universal tariff, the sort of which Trump has proposed repeatedly, would raise more than $US3 trillion across the decade to 2035. That’s serious money, enough to at least dent the extraordinary $US2 trillion in annual deficits Washington has pencilled in for years.
Choose tariffs or fiscal collapse, they are the only two choices.
Far from expanding its military footprint, the Pentagon is planning cuts of about 8 per cent a year to the nearly $US1 trillion annual military budget. And Trump has flagged pursuing a three-way agreement with China and Russia to curb spending on nuclear weapons. Economic reality is starting to bite hard.
Europe is in no better economic position to fight. European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen has announced €800bn ($1.3 trillion) of new spending on military equipment to bolster the bloc’s emaciated, inexperienced forces. Bond yields on the vast quantum of German, French and British debt have jumped significantly already. Where is this money going to come from? The likeliest answer is inflationary money creation.
President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen arrives at crisis talks in Brussels. Picture: AFP
When economics does enter the debate about support for Ukraine or tariffs it’s at a rather superficial level. When a market as big and lucrative as the US imposes tariffs, some of the tariff burden will indeed fall on foreigners, who will cut the prices of their exports to absorb part of the tariff to remain competitive against US domestic rivals.
Simplistic comparisons between Russia’s relatively small GDP and that of the EU and the US also are misleading.
First, relatively poor nations tend to be more formidable adversaries because their citizens tend to be more patriotic and therefore far more willing to fight. Russia hasn’t yet had to resort to mass conscription (the 2022 partial mobilisation called up reserves) in its war in Ukraine.
The governments of France, Germany and Britain, widely loathed by their voting publics, would have a much harder time finding proportionately similar numbers without civil unrest.
Furthermore, bloated Western governments, whose economies are based mostly on household consumption, have already lifted taxes to almost the maximum level their economies can bear.
They are in no position to wage a serious or sustained war without huge and politically disastrous spending cuts.
Indeed, the top marginal income tax rates of totalitarian Russia and communist China are both lower, significantly so in Russia’s case, than those in Australia, Europe and even the US: 22 per cent in Russia (where most Russians pay 13 per cent) and 45 per cent in China, a little below Australia’s top 47 per cent rate.
The stock of debt, accumulation of which is a necessity in wartime, is revealing too: China’s is significant at about 90 per cent, but Russia’s is barely 20 per cent.
A strong case can be made that economic exigencies, especially the parlous state of the US budget, are dictating Trump’s most controversial policies. Even his tough line on immigration, including plans to deport millions of low-skilled workers, has been cast as a push to crack down on crime or even a cultural preservation exercise.
But it could equally be a policy to put upward pressure on US wages, especially of low-skilled workers, to offset some of the impact of looming tariffs.
The most proximate cause of our fiscal poverty, and all the unfortunate policies arising from it, was the crazy response to Covid that severely weakened Western nations economically.
The same people who cheered those policies are often the same ones demanding the US fund a forever war in Europe. You can’t have everything, I’m afraid.
IMO that's the underlying issue, causing most of the problems, the West has lost its fiscal responsibility and China/Russia are trying to exploit it.Washington simply can’t afford to support another forever war in Ukraine, quite aside from the likely loss of life that ultimately includes US troops. The US has World War II levels of debt without having remotely fought a world war. Public debt as a share of GDP in the US is already 100 per cent and on track for 118 per cent within a decade, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Spending on interest already exceeds spending on the military. US budget deficits of $US2 trillion ($3.1 trillion) a year, more than 6 per cent of GDP, have been pencilled in as far as the eye can see.
Absolutely true.Russia plays two cards
1. the international victim
2. escalation (nukes) against any resistance
But the reality, it is the aggressor
What? Nothing to do with left politics. Trump wanted a deal with no guarantee no sfa but was going to take minerals for nothing meanwhile Russia keeps killing its neighbour which bit did you miss? Trump is a coward fine just a note on US spending they sent all their old ordinance equipment with limitations and only recently sent high end weapons.
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