wayneL
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The old attitude of "ours is not to reason why, ours is just to do or die" seems to be on the wane.
Perhaps we pawns are starting to think "phuk this”
The old attitude of "ours is not to reason why, ours is just to do or die" seems to be on the wane.Is the Ukraine war about to come to a sudden and unexpected end. Reports suggest that the Russian invasion is slowing and low morale within the military. If this is correct we could see a military coup in Russia, with Putin being arrested and held to blame, (Generals:- we were just following orders!). Probably wishful thinking on my part, but if happens will be soon.
Not without precedent:
Just in case i am right, remember where you read it first.
- 1762: A coup by Catherine the Great forced the abdication of Peter III of Russia.
- March 15, 1917: Tsar Nicholas II of Russia is forced to abdicate in favor of the Russian Provisional Government, ending the Russian Empire and the Romanov dynasty.
- September 1917: Lavr Kornilov attempts to march into Petrograd, dissolve the Petrograd Soviet, and possibly establish a military dictatorship after being appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Army by Alexander Kerensky. The coup failed because of a lack of support and mass resistance, but it eroded the Provisional Government's legitimacy and revived the Bolsheviks.
- November 7, 1917: The Bolshevik faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party led by Vladimir Lenin overthrows the Russian Provisional Government and forms the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, leading to the Russian Civil War and the formation of the Soviet Union.
- August 19 to 21, 1991: A group of Soviet Communist Party hardliners form the State Committee on the State of Emergency and attempt to overthrow President Mikhail Gorbachev in order to reverse his reforms; the coup is suppressed by RSFSR President Boris Yeltsin, weakening the Communist Party's authority and accelerating the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
- September 21 to October 4, 1993: Russian President Boris Yeltsin, aided by the Russian Armed Forces, extralegally dissolves the Supreme Soviet and suspends the constitution in response to impeachment proceedings against him.
Ahh.typical. Leave the little guy out and all the bigwigs cleanup on the side ; through cutouts and a web of front companies. Makes you sick.You can't at the moment as their stock exchange is closed and brokers here and in in the USA are presently not allowed trade with Russia.
Some of the bigger gamblers than you and I are buying Russian debt or outstanding loans but it is a nietzeche market.
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Wouldn't that be great.The old attitude of "ours is not to reason why, ours is just to do or die" seems to be on the wane.
Perhaps we pawns are starting to think "phuk this”
I'm not sure it's worse than actual war but I've heard more than enough to know that things aren't too good there and that what would be seen as a crisis in Australia is considered perfectly normal there.Meanwhile in SA
I certainly hope so but I fear it's the eye of the storm.Is the Ukraine war about to come to a sudden and unexpected end.
However that rebuilding will be good for their economy which has been stuck with increasing unemployment for the last decade or more...I certainly hope so but I fear it's the eye of the storm.
There's also the problem that judging by photos in the media etc, the place is already heavily damaged and will take serious effort to fix. Even just things like bridges don't get put back up in week, it's a major task for that alone.
We're getting close to the end of this invasion, IMO. Once Kiev is surrounded, it will be a siege and Russia can wait it out with their logistic trail back to Russia kicking in and Kiev locked out of international support. Unless the West create a corridor to the SW for aid and equipment resupply. But, that will take air and ground support to get it through, so maybe unlikely.
Russia have completely miscalculated on this misadventure, including the value of hand held anti-tank missiles and the resolve of the Ukrainian people. The statements of the Russian representative at the UN today is laughable.
My initial assessment of this was that Russia just wants the eastern side of Ukraine from Kharkiv down to Odessa and have total control of the north Black Sea coast line. Once they negotiate that as part of a cease fire, it might stop. I just doubt Ukraine will give it up.
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If Kiev falls then all of Ukraine will fall. It's hard to imagine them keep reserves in other less important parts of the country than the capital.
Not too sure what people expected out of Russia.
This is modern warfare against a modernised military with the logistics of the entire Western advanced militarised behind them. The last time there was a war at this level was literally WW2 Germany v. Britain.
If the country falls in less than a month then that's a major success for the Russians.
There is a chance it could evolve into a long term Partisan / insurgency, not that I hope for that, I think Russian would begin targeting innocent civilians even more then.Most probably.
There's no significant enough justification for Russia to invade a sovereign nation and kill innocent civilians and destroy billions in infrastructure. These are war crimes.
The Ukraine leader speaks like he's not going to give in at all. So, they might become a 'government in exile'. I can't believe the western side of 'ethic Ukrainians' is going to give in. They significantly voted against pro-Russia at the last election.
The turning point in WW2 was the USA being forced into it, in both Europe and the Pacific. Let's hope there's no tipping point here.
.... What there isn't here in Kharkiv, is any surprise at the Russian attack. "Since 2014 we knew they would come, maybe in a year, 10 years, or 1,000 years, but we knew they would come"....
There is a chance it could evolve into a long term Partisan / insurgency, not that I hope for that, I think Russian would begin targeting innocent civilians even more then.
But I can’t see the Ukrainian people accepting occupation by Russia, and if a Rebel group armed with modern weapons can continue a fight, it will be very expensive for Russia the longer they stay.
I think Putin needs to save face, so eventually it has to get to a point where he can claim some sort of victory politically and then he will probably back off, but only time will tell.
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