The problem is all the restrictions in the world wont help someone who simply wont listen to reason. Education doesn't always help either - there's an immaturity to many younger drivers that education alone wont pierce.
When are we going to stop being a nation of excuses? It wasn't the car that killed these people. It wasn't the lack of experience nor was it a lack of training.
What it was...was a man who made a conscience decision to drink drive, knowing full well that he could kill himself, people in the car and other innocent people driving on the road.
He ended up doing just that!
ThingyMajiggy said:High powered cars and P plate drivers is a lethal combination, just hope government's take action.
Nearly ALL these cases there was drinking involved, car load of kids, all pissed or half pissed, yet its the speed that killed them, nothing to do with the booze??
Go Nuke said:Why do we still make cars that are capable of doing twice that?? I'ts got me beat.
Until then, young people will keep dying..simple as that.
GumbyLearner said:Because the message certainly doesn't appear to be getting through.
gordon2007 said:Maybe parents need to learn how to say 'no' to their children. Why kids need brand new or very late model cars for their first car is beyond me.
jbocker said:Dont argue about it - Speed Kills. For example, hit a pedestrian at 60km per hour or at 40kph the survival rate is increased enormously at 40kph..
Boggo said:What a crock, if you were driving home with your family in the car are you saying that you would feel just as safe if a car load of drunken punks were coming towards you at 140kmh as you would be if they were doing 60 kmh.
Wysiwyg said:Exceeding designated speed limits increases the danger to self and others. This cannot be understated.
Go Nuke said:Kids....make mistakes.
Smurf said:But I've seen quite a few horror smashes (through work) and the ones that immediately come to mind (multiple serious injuries, at least one fatality in each case, vehicle split into half etc) all involved ordinary (not high performance) cars running into stationary objects beside the road, including in the city centre. And most of them were full of young people. All were travelling at high speeds. And they were all at night, generally Friday or Saturday night.
If I was going to change the law, it would be to ban P plate drivers from carrying more than one passenger under 25 after dark unless there is a legitimate need (eg driving directly to or from work / uni).
GumbyLearner said:The problem remains, that young people are at high-speed wrapping themselves around trees and lightpoles.
How can it be stopped?
Originally Posted by Wysiwyg
Exceeding designated speed limits increases the danger to self and others. This cannot be understated.
That's not necessarily the case. While a higher speed means more force in a potential accident, the lower speed may increase the chance of an accident. We have a speed we naturally want to travel at - a sweet spot between uncomfortable and boredom. If we go too fast, we obviously increase the chance of an accident due to exceeding our level of skill. If we go too slow, we risk an error due to lack of concentration at what we deem as too comfortable a speed.
Designated limits are often rubbish. Consider that they are the lowest common denominator. Some people will travel significantly slower than the posted limit, but most will travel around that limit, so obviousoly officials have to take that into account. There's also a lot of lowering of speed limits over the last 10-15 years (that I've noticed), which I think is largely due to collecting speeding fines. Also consider the speed cops travel at. Fine, they're apparently "highly-trained", but is that enough for them to travel at 100km/h when the public is deemed unsafe above 50km/h? I think it would be unreasonable to think so.
Originally Posted by Duckman
"...I am waiting for the day a girlfriend pins a pack of condoms, a pair of handcuffs and a g-string on a tree, with the words "You were the best root I ever had".
I typed ....
You typed .....
Because I don't see any value in being argumentative, I will keep it brief by typing you have a poor understanding of the social system.
awg said:The notion that speed is not a major factor in the deaths of these young people is fallacious imo
It would be enlightening to know if a similar debate exists in USA
When are we going to stop being a nation of excuses? It wasn't the car that killed these people. It wasn't the lack of experience nor was it a lack of training.
What it was...was a man who made a conscience decision to drink drive, knowing full well that he could kill himself, people in the car and other innocent people driving on the road.
He ended up doing just that!
...my modified 300hp+ beast has a throttle that still scares me, breaks traction at the slightest impropriety and would be a deadset killer with a young fool behind the wheel ( as opposed to an old fool)
Good news is that not all drunk drivers got killed and chances are that some took notice.
The good news is that there is one less mass murderer on the road that I need to worry about.
Perhaps if we, the local, state and the rest of our government start treating these people as the murderous scumbags they are, then maybe finally people will start to understand what can happen if you choose to drink drive.
I personally wish the press and governments would talk and treat these people just as they do towards criminals.
Instead, the media quickly lunges for the Violin Of Sadness and publishes endless tributes from families & "friends" extolling the deceased's angelic "virtues".
Dumb**** Idaho Bathurst mentality of the youth of Australia.
"People just don't seem to be getting the message," he told reporters.
"Right here, on Monday night, our local traffic management people impounded a car, (after) a crazy piece of driving doing burnouts with four or five people in his car..."
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