Trapped Miners

[Happy]

2 blokes are seen as heroes but can call themselves lucky, even to the point of somebody having enough resource$ to conduct the re$cue.

All the drilling including special large diameter boring machine hire
Paramedics
Dietitians
Medics including psychiatrists
Concrete for the boring machine’s foundation
Personnel to conduct operations

All the voluntary personnel including Jack of all trades Mr Shorten

This is huge; some will miss the hype when it’s over, some wait for it to be over already, including 2 blokes.

 

[Smurf1976]

IMO if anyone is a hero it is not the trapped miners, they are just unfortunate victims of circumstance.

It is whoever came up with the idea of having a safety cage in the first place, designed it and so on that deserves credit. Needless to say we'll never even hear the name of whoever that was.

I don't know for certain but the unions over the years have probably worked hard to get the safety standards that have helped save these men so they deserve some credit too.

 

[Stan 101]

thank you for the last two posts. I thought the press had diminished our senses.

I'm disgusted by the national headlines

 

[Prospector]

IMO if anyone is a hero it is not the trapped miners, they are just unfortunate victims of circumstance.

It is whoever came up with the idea of having a safety cage in the first place, designed it and so on that deserves credit. Needless to say we'll never even hear the name of whoever that was.

I don't know for certain but the unions over the years have probably worked hard to get the safety standards that have helped save these men so they deserve some credit too.

And the rescuers - the paramedics and the rescue miners who are risking the unknown to get to the men. I hope they get their recognition.

The miners have captured my heart because they have been 'buried alive'. That surely must be anyone's dread - well, as I am claustrophobic I dont think I would have survived and come out SANE!!

Having said that I cry for Sophie and her family. If there is a God then I think he is very cruel. Too much red for me tonight, too many awful things happening.

 

[Stan 101]

Are they "heroes" though, Prospector?

 

[Prospector]

Are they "heroes" though, Prospector?

The rescuers are heroes because they are risking their lives. Sophie is a hero because she is five years of age and has shown incredible courage in living with the loss of limb, and part of her face.

The miners - they are brave, because they have survived extreme mental torment - I cant imagine living 1 K underground never knowing if you will be found. They survived intact, they have done something I could never do, yes, they are MY heroes too! But I accept that they may not be yours!

 

[Stan 101]

Prospector, I for the life of me, cannot understand how in any way, shape, or form a person through circumstance can be a hero?
Heroes go outof their way to help..

How is a guy sitting in a hole(no matter how deep) heping people?


He is unfortunate, he not a hero...
Next the paper will be mentoning Bush as a hero for saving (and killing and mutilating countless) lives in Iraq.
Being in Iraq recently, and heading to Iran next week (On business. I am of true oz and english blood) I am truly disgusted by the papers stating these victims of circumstance are heroes.



This country I must leave...

This is truly the end.

 

[visual]

San,
thats the beauty of freedom ,you can come and go as you please,hope you are happy in iran,or iraq,you should really try and behave there as you obviously are behaving here,it would be interesting to see how long they would allow your behaviour to continue.

 

[Prospector]

Prospector, I for the life of me, cannot understand how in any way, shape, or form a person through circumstance can be a hero?
Heroes go outof their way to help..

How is a guy sitting in a hole(no matter how deep) heping people?


He is unfortunate, he not a hero...
Next the paper will be mentoning Bush as a hero for saving (and killing and mutilating countless) lives in Iraq.
Being in Iraq recently, and heading to Iran next week (On business. I am of true oz and english blood) I am truly disgusted by the papers stating these victims of circumstance are heroes.



This country I must leave...

This is truly the end.

Warning - dont even go there with the Bush comparison!

Should I bother explaining it to you again? OK, maybe you cant read. If you read the post you would see that the first people in this situation I nominated were the rescuers. Then I gave my explanation of why I thought the miners were heroes....

Bye Bye Stan 101. Dont go anywhere where the Merriam-Webster Dictionary is used though - I think you will find my explanation is covered here! But not that I care what others think - The beauty of age is that I use my own sense of values when considering others.

Main Entry: he·ro
Pronunciation: 'hir-(")O, 'hE-(")rO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural heroes
Etymology: Latin heros, from Greek hErOs
1 a : a mythological or legendary figure often of divine descent endowed with great strength or ability b : an illustrious warrior c : a man admired for his achievements and noble qualities d : one that shows great courage
2 a : the principal male character in a literary or dramatic work b : the central figure in an event, period, or movement
3 plural usually heros : SUBMARINE 2
4 : an object of extreme admiration and devotion : IDOL

 

[tech/a]

I guarantee that each man will see his mate as a hero, so will the respective families.

If that is the limit of true heroism in this event so be it.
If others evaluate the efforts of each or any one individual either trapped or involved in the rescue efforts as heroic then so be that.

For me its an extra ordinary circumstance which shows how survival can bring out extra ordinary characteristics and efforts.
Some one has died---dont forget that.

On a personal note my 20 yr old daughter was hit by a car during heavy rain on Saturday night! I won the lottery she is broken bruised but still here!

We all have our lives!!

 

[Prospector]

Glad to hear your Daughter is OK TechA - yes, you must feel very thankful she is not badly hurt. That is one of those phonecalls that all parents of 'twenty somethings' dread. Where abouts in Adelaide did it happen - the weather was truly appalling.

 

[bullmarket]

Good morning everyone

I think the true heroes are the rescue workers risking their lives in very dangerous, hot and trying conditions for days on end trying to get the trapped miners out.

Without any doubt whatsoever the trapped miners are certainly amazing and exraodinary men and maybe even heroes to the extent that during the first 5 days before they were found they most probably helped each other to 'stick around' so to speak and not give up. Not being a psychology expert by any means I would still imagine that their survival at least before they were found was as much an amazing psychological as well as physical feat. I would assume that if only one of them had been alone in their safety cage his chances of survival would have been much less.

cheers

bullmarket

 

[tech/a]

Glad to hear your Daughter is OK TechA - yes, you must feel very thankful she is not badly hurt. That is one of those phonecalls that all parents of 'twenty somethings' dread. Where abouts in Adelaide did it happen - the weather was truly appalling.

Pirie street.
10.45pm when it was bucketting.
One of those accidents,no blame just relief,mind you Nat's pretty sore.

 

[Julia]

Tech

Glad to hear your daughter is OK. Hope she's feeling herself soon.

Re Heroes: I think a hero is someone who puts himself at risk to help someone else. e.g. the rescuers in this case.

The trapped miners: well, they don't have a lot of choice, do they. They have been unfortunate but not so unfortunate as their dead colleague.
They surely work in this industry with the everyday knowledge that this sort of disaster is possible.
Prospector: being underground, although horrible for such a long time, would probably not have such a terrible effect on them as it would on you with your claustrophobia.

And the thought of the massive compensation payments and all the panting chequebook journalists will be undoubtedly helping them to keep cheerful.

Julia

 

[visual]

wow,they are out.
and healthy,good luck to them.

 

[tech/a]

If they are smart these guys wont have to work again.

A good manager will be able to broker their story world wide.

After 2 weeks buried alive they deserve it.

 

[bullmarket]

yes visual it was amazing to watch them walk out

the paramedics did a fantastic job nursing them back to pretty good health under 'remote control' as Tracy Grimshaw described it this morning.

bullmarket

 

[websman]

If they are smart these guys wont have to work again.

A good manager will be able to broker their story world wide.

After 2 weeks buried alive they deserve it.

It's all over the news here in the U.S. They'll be able to make a pile of money from their story.

 

[bullmarket]

yep websman

It's all over the news here in the U.S. They'll be able to make a pile of money from their story.

it's a global story and hopefully some of the money they will make from their story will filter back to the rescuers in some way, some of which risked their lives to get them out.

cheers

bullmarket

 

[dutchie]

Glad for those two miners (and their families) that they were able to walk out of that mine.

The two miners will make a lot of money (good luck to them).

The mine (and shareholders) will lose a lot of money.