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moXJO said:
In the end I will vote for whatever government will benefit me the most (over all aspects not just money).
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Its going to be hard for you to determine that considering all the lies and backflips both parties carry on with.
 
nulla nulla said:
Kind of ironic that Howard had the extreme right wing political leanings necessary to win back the right wing Pauline Hanson voters. You'd think Tony Abbott would be a shoe-in to secure their votes also.
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Extreme right wing?

Oh please! :rolleyes:

There is a whooooole lot of territory to the right of John Howard before we cross the red line of "extreme".
 
nulla nulla said:
Kind of ironic that Howard had the extreme right wing political leanings necessary to win back the right wing Pauline Hanson voters. You'd think Tony Abbott would be a shoe-in to secure their votes also.
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nulla, mate, some folk, and I hope you are not one of them, think that THEY., the Hanson voters inhabit some predestined area of the voting public. They are everywhere , a small bigoted minority and if Keating had been in power he would have had to mollify them as well. If you think that Howard was extreme Right, you have not travelled much overseas, or indeed understand that the political process has an adversarial model. What one bloke says is white, the other says black.

Now if you think that Howard managed the economy less well than Herr Rudd, then that would be an argument worth having, but just throwing the words right and left about, as arguments is unhelpful.

gg
 
Duckman#72 said:
That's not right IFocus. Almost all major political commentators, including Paul Kelly had said that the budget reply gave the agenda and momentum back to the Lib's. It came from left field, Labour weren't expecting it and it framed the terms that the Coalition wanted to fight the election on. It was one of the only budget supply speeches in recent years that gave a rise in the polling.

Things went pear shaped after "that" 7:30Report interview a few days later. :eek:

It has been heavy weather ever since.

Duckman
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Your right Duckman I was thinking of the Liberals (Abbott, Hockey and Robb) handling of the budgets cuts announcements during Hockey budget reply.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1260897/Hockey-admits-bungling-budget-cuts-speech
 
The essence of Tony is that he is a pugilist, a boxer. He can take punishment and he can give it.
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Self flagellation I think is the term your after

GG Abbott is one of your Godbothers he has a history as a minister of projecting his religious beliefs and those of a Pope in Rome into policy and action.
 
wayneL said:
Extreme right wing?

Oh please! :rolleyes:

There is a whooooole lot of territory to the right of John Howard before we cross the red line of "extreme".
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Garpal Gumnut said:
nulla, mate, some folk, and I hope you are not one of them, think that THEY., the Hanson voters inhabit some predestined area of the voting public. They are everywhere , a small bigoted minority and if Keating had been in power he would have had to mollify them as well. If you think that Howard was extreme Right, you have not travelled much overseas, or indeed understand that the political process has an adversarial model. What one bloke says is white, the other says black.

Now if you think that Howard managed the economy less well than Herr Rudd, then that would be an argument worth having, but just throwing the words right and left about, as arguments is unhelpful.

gg
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Com on!! Howard was a "closet" extreme rightist and we all know it. And Tony Abbott is the son he always wanted.
 
nulla nulla said:
Com on!! Howard was a "closet" extreme rightist and we all know it. And Tony Abbott is the son he always wanted.
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Bob Hawke is more right wing than Howard ever was. He had mates in industry, sold off the CBA, destroyed unions and and is a capitalist running dog, comrade.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Bob Hawke is more right wing than Howard ever was. He had mates in industry, sold off the CBA, destroyed unions and and is a capitalist running dog, comrade.

gg
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I can't deny that Bob Hawke didn't like the good life. Cigars, booze and ....
But I can't recall him destroying unions. That would seem contradictory to his work as president of the ACTU?
 
IFocus said:
Your right Duckman I was thinking of the Liberals (Abbott, Hockey and Robb) handling of the budgets cuts announcements during Hockey budget reply.
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Seems like I have to correct everything you right IFocus! :D Start writing history as it happens not as you see it! :)

The matter you seem to refer to had nothing to do with Abbott, nor Robb and just had to do with Joe Hockey handing out budget papaers after his speech rather than before. :rolleyes:

As for your comments Nulla - fair dinkum!:banghead: Extreme right - please.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,27166471-13243,00.html

Duckman
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Bob Hawke is more right wing than Howard ever was. He had mates in industry, sold off the CBA, destroyed unions and and is a capitalist running dog, comrade.

gg
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Gees mate what rock were you under when John Winston sent dogs and kiwi security guards and was rustling up scabs for the wharfies work on the docks?
Isn't the world such a better place now for all that.
What have we got tv screens 10 times bigger at half the cost that
cost 10 times more to run from the power bill
Progress my rssss
They knew to break the unions you had to beat the wharfies.
Plenty of people here throw around the comrade bit but dont mind selling all our resources to them at a price that keeps them in beer and nuts
 
todster said:
Gees mate what rock were you under when John Winston sent dogs and kiwi security guards and was rustling up scabs for the wharfies work on the docks?
Isn't the world such a better place now for all that.
What have we got tv screens 10 times bigger at half the cost that
cost 10 times more to run from the power bill
Progress my rssss
They knew to break the unions you had to beat the wharfies.
Plenty of people here throw around the comrade bit but dont mind selling all our resources to them at a price that keeps them in beer and nuts
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The wharfies were earning more than dentists (not that I think they should be paid any more than teachers or nurses) for doing bugger all and affecting adversely our exports.
During WW2 they behaved in a disgraceful manner in not providing an efficient service for badly needed supplies for our troops, and in a number of cases behaved maliciously.
They had it coming, and if the Liberals hadn't done it, Labor at some stage would have had to deal with them.
I do agree with you about the materialism of our age, but that is encouraged equally by the left as the right.

gg

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
The wharfies were earning more than dentists (not that I think they should be paid any more than teachers or nurses) for doing bugger all and affecting adversely our exports.
During WW2 they behaved in a disgraceful manner in not providing an efficient service for badly needed supplies for our troops, and in a number of cases behaved maliciously.
They had it coming, and if the Liberals hadn't done it, Labor at some stage would have had to deal with them.
I do agree with you about the materialism of our age, but that is encouraged equally by the left as the right.

gg

gg
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Well mate i come from a background where you you try to earn more money by your own wits not by taking pleasure in seeing someone take a pay cut,jealousy, just like people in mining with very limited education earning 150-200k? before you harp on about living away blah blah blah i dont see to many dentists standing on North Quay in Fremantle in the middle of winter at 4 am either.
Productivity my rsse profit was all it was ever about but once again the narrow minded see it with the rose tinted mass media view.
Well done John Howard helicopters flying around with spotlights blazing on the wharfies with the TRG and coppers on the gates bus loads of scabs at the ready,why not invade another country on lies to man of steel,but hey we made a s--tload of cash on the market and thats about all anybody here really cares about aint that the truth.
 
Duckman#72 said:
One of the worst pieces of English I've written here on ASF. Sorry everyone. In my defence, I had one eye on the beloved Bombers getting thrashed.

Duckman
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Nothing wrong with that Duckman. Carringbush have been doing it for almost 40 years and won one flag in the process. You're forgiven. ;)
 
todster said:
Well mate i come from a background where you you try to earn more money by your own wits not by taking pleasure in seeing someone take a pay cut,jealousy, just like people in mining with very limited education earning 150-200k? before you harp on about living away blah blah blah i dont see to many dentists standing on North Quay in Fremantle in the middle of winter at 4 am either.
Productivity my rsse profit was all it was ever about but once again the narrow minded see it with the rose tinted mass media view.
Well done John Howard helicopters flying around with spotlights blazing on the wharfies with the TRG and coppers on the gates bus loads of scabs at the ready,why not invade another country on lies to man of steel,but hey we made a s--tload of cash on the market and thats about all anybody here really cares about aint that the truth.
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Wharfies were the most unproductive rorting rabble there was. Aust ports were the biggest joke in the world. The mentality of the wharfies when work was concerned was 'try and make us '.
 
moXJO said:
Wharfies were the most unproductive rorting rabble there was. Aust ports were the biggest joke in the world. The mentality of the wharfies when work was concerned was 'try and make us '.
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But how did they come to be on such a good wicket?
By sticking together through many attempts to weaken them.
Damn right they rorted the system for there own members.
The biggest joke was the lack of money spent on infrastructure and equipment and blamed solely on the wharfies but people who take the medias view never see the other side of the coin
 
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