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The ABC's Insiders has become so biased that in their view, John Howard was to blame for Paul Keating's broken promise on his L.A.W. tax cuts.
I agree to a point but think push factors had a bigger impact.
Talking about bias............. jezzzes thats not what George Megalogenis said at all.
It was actually John Howard who dishonored the LAW tax cuts.
Are we talking about the same places they rioted at, set on fire, and where held for as much as three years before either being sent back to whence they came or in some cases were finally called "legitimate"? Or do you mean immensely successful in some other way? I guess he did get a few boat loads to jump in the water in protest, children and all.What? The Pacific Solution under John Howard was immensely successful. What are you on about here?
I never said the governments over there would try to stop them. I did however say, there is no solution until they do.Given the chaos which exists in Afghanistan and Iraq from whence many of these people are coming, you're dreaming if you expect the quasi governments there to do anything about stopping people leaving the country.
Why should they? Ditto for Indonesia. It is not in their interests to stop people leaving their shores. They couldn't care less about people smugglers or asylum seekers, and any mouthing to the contrary is for effect only.
Interesting graph. I would be curious to see it over-lapped with a time-line of the major events that happened in the countries where these people apparently come from.Of course you would think that, IF. To think differently would put you at odds with your beloved alp...lol
If push factors were really so strong, I don't think the Pacific Solution would have made much difference. But it did:
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Interesting graph. I would be curious to see it over-lapped with a time-line of the major events that happened in the countries where these people apparently come from.
This week's Essential Report shows that Tony Abbott has convinced the electorate that we are under the pump and that the carbon price is to blame
The art of illusion aims to win over an audience by establishing a trust that allows them to suspend their disbelief.
For more than 150 years, illusionists have sawn assistants in half, chosen the right cards and pulled rabbits from hats.
And now Tony Abbott has emerged to convince us that the price on carbon is driving up the prices of electricity and other household goods, when objective evidence tells us it is only a very small part of the picture of rising living costs.
The the Art of Illusion can only be mastered by practise, repeating the same sequence day after day. Tony Abbott has shown the necessary discipline – the question for Labor now is whether the illusion can be exposed.
1st of many I think, look at Abbotts many frauds
"Abbott's art of illusion"
Abbott has succeeded with a few here I think
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4212042.html?WT.svl=theDrum
1st of many I think, look at Abbotts many frauds
"Abbott's art of illusion"
Abbott has succeeded with a few here I think
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4212042.html?WT.svl=theDrum
Yes, exactly. To assume that the carbon price is not a significant impost on individuals, we need to give it time for businesses to assess how it impacts them, and then for them to pass this on to customers.Under Labors greatest lie that the carbon tax hasn't done anything to prices. What people forget is that we need to see the additional damage done in the next financial year.
Give it time dear lady, give it time.
My point was that it will be impossible for the consumer to tell how much of any price rises is due to the carbon tax.+ 1 Doc. We have only seen the tip of the iceberg. There will be lots of added costs and some business due to being on set prices will not be able to pass it on. It is going to cost one Bowen tomato grower and extra $12,000 for card board cartons. A cost he says he cannot pass on due to the market price offered.
We will be hit with extra cost of living and it won't be just electricity.
Are we talking about the same places they rioted at, set on fire, and where held for as much as three years before either being sent back to whence they came or in some cases were finally called "legitimate"?
.aph.gov.au said:Between 2001 and February 2008 a total of 1637 people had been detained in the Nauru and Manus facilities. Of these, 1153 (70 per cent) were ultimately resettled in Australia or other countries. Of those who were resettled 705 (around 61 per cent) were resettled in Australia.[69]
Give it time dear lady, give it time.
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