Tigerboi's Saturday race tips...

[wayneL]

The Grand National, over 4 miles and 30 jumps is about to be run over here.

Sentimental (and betting) favourite is Cloudy Lane, trained by the son of Red Rum's trainer (name escapes me for the moment).

This is the toughest racecourse race in the world.

 

[wayneL]

Check it out http://www.grandnational.org.uk/fences.php

 

[wayneL]

40 runners, 4miles 4 furlongs, 30 fences, only 16 crossed the finish line.
Comply or Die won it.

 

[2020hindsight]

40 runners, 4miles 4 furlongs, 30 fences, only 16 crossed the finish line.
Comply or Die won it.

wayne,
any horses hurt? or riders for that matter. ?
looks like a mixture of Extreme Dirt-biking and the Man from Snowy River.

by the way, those are the sort of races that Adam Lindsay Gordon used to excell in. He ended up with a skull that wasn't quite continuous all round the circle. He would invite people to feel various missing bits etc.

 

[wayneL]

1 horse had to be put down and a jockey with suspected back injuries.

It's a tremendous event, an amazing spectacle... the winner looked fantastic, well ridden and well within himself, but I find it a bit hard to come to terms with the casualty toll in jumps racing.

 

[wayneL]

 

[2020hindsight]

:topic
We have the Olympic equestrian events to look forward to - in Hong Kong apparently. Think I prefer them to steeplechases though.

PS had a school mate who became a jockey - within a year he had a broken neck ended up half paralysed.
But they're bludy mad those equestrians...

From the Atlanta Games (Gillian Rolton)...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/olympics/sports/equestrian.htm

The equestrian events gave Australians one of the most enduring images of the Atlanta Games in 1996.

In the closing stages of the teams three-day event, with Australia in the lead, Gillian Rolton crashed to earth from her mount Peppermint Grove during the cross country event.

Despite the pain from a broken collarbone and two broken ribs, Rolton remounted Peppermint Grove, anxious not to let her team-mates down.

A short time later, she fell again. Showing enormous courage, again she remounted and finished the course.

It would have been easier for Rolton to succumb to her injuries after the first fall. Each team requires three riders to successfully complete each discipline, and Rolton, riding third for Australia, was determined to complete the course.

After all, if she failed and the mount of the fourth rider pulled up lame, the Australians would have failed to finish.

In the final analysis, Rolton's efforts were not required and the Australians won gold, but her deeds are the stuff of Olympic legend.

The Olympic history of events involving horses can be traced back to 682 BC when a four-horse chariot race was run at the Hippodrome in Olympia at Greece's 25th Olympiad.

In the modern era, show jumping was part of the 1900 Games, but the full program of dressage, show jumping and three-day eventing was introduced in 1912 and in all three disciplines, individual and team medals are awarded.

Each of these disciplines has its own unique history. Dressage has its origins in the French military.

It began as a method of training for military horses. Indeed, only commissioned officers were allowed to compete in equestrian events until 1952 when the sport was opened to civilians, including women for the first time.

The sport has also been described as horses performing ballet.

Three-day eventing also has military roots. Comprising show jumping, dressage and cross-country, it began as a series of endurance tests set for the cavalry.

In their early stages, these tests were mainly on flat ground, but fences were added in the late 1700s.

This interview leading into the 2000 Olympics..
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/stories/s180465.htm

TRACY BOWDEN: Team coach and former Olympian Wayne Roycroft comes from one of the most famous families in Australia's equestrian world.

Back in 1960, his dad, Bill -- concussed and with a broken collarbone -- discharged himself from hospital to ride for gold in the 3-day event.

WAYNE ROYCROFT: I hope we're going to win, I hope we're going to win.

Look, we've got everything in place.

Look, I have huge respect for our opposition.

The New Zealanders are really, really strong, the Americans will do well, the British will do well.

So if we win, it will be absolutely fantastic.

MATT RYAN: My biggest thrill is riding for my country and if I can win medals for Australia, and myself obviously, that's my biggest kick.

PS That location looks like a golf course. I wonder if the golfers will be able to claim that a ball landing in a pile of horse droppings is GUR?

 

[2020hindsight]

a couple of photos from that grand national footage.
Just goes to show that a horse by itself (giving the jump the runaround) is arguably more intelligent than a horse-plus-human-rider.

 

[tigerboi]

Yep its a great race the grand national,we had a great jumper in the 70's named CRISP who went over & ran,only to get run down by the greatest jumper of all time,red rum a triple winner of the gn,crisp gave RED RUM 10 kgs & led til the last 100m,very gruelling race that sorts out the real stayers, i think its over 7200m/4 1/2 miles,was the winner a long shot?

Casualties are a part of this race & you must take into consideration that jumps horses are very slow on the flat,are geldings at the other end of their racing careers,if they had not been put over the fences then they would be in a can...tb

found this...

. 1973 National - Red Rum won first of 3 Nationals and Crisp
The 1973 Grand National is probably the most replayed horse race in television history. Few who tuned in on the last Saturday in March will ever forget the race - it was pure sporting drama, played out over four and a half miles, over thirty formidable fences. Top class chaser Crisp carried top weight in the 1973 Grand National, and his bold jumping, front-running style ensured the ex-Australian star was well clear of his field for most of the race leading horse betting punters who had backed him thinking they had made a wise sport bet. Legendary race commentator Peter O'Sullevan took up the microphone as the leaders turned for home...
"Crisp is still well clear in the 1973 Grand National and this great Australian chaser Crisp with twelve stone on his back and ten stone five on the back of Red Rum, who's chasing him and they look to have it absolutely to themselves. At the second last... Crisp is over. And clear of Red Rum who's jumping it a long way back. In third is Spanish Steps then Hurricane Rock and Rouge Autumn and L'Escargot. But coming to the final fence in the National now... and it's Crisp still going in great style. He jumps it well, Red Rum is about fifteen lengths behind him as he jumps it. Crisp is coming to the elbow he's got two hundred and fifty yards to run." Then, suddenly things changed...
"Crisp is just wandering off the true line now. He's beginning to lose concentration. He's been out there on his own for so long. And Red Rum is making ground on him. They have a furlong to run now, two hundred yards now for Crisp, and Red Rum is still closing on him, and Crisp is getting very tired, and Red Rum is pounding after him and Red Rum is the one who finishes the strongest. He's going to get up! Red Rum is going to win the National! At the line Red Rum has just snatched it from Crisp! And Red Rum is the winner!
The race was run in a time 19 seconds faster than the previous record set by the immortal Golden Miller some fifty years earlier and proved that on the day both Red Rum and Crisp put up truly exceptional performances.

Red Rum v Crisp: 30 years on

Brian Fletcher and Red Rum just edge out Pitman and Crisp

The 1973 Grand National was one of the most memorable races of the 20th Century.
It marked the first victory of the legendary Red Rum and produced perhaps the most exciting finish Aintree has ever seen.
Runaway leader Crisp jumped the last fence 15 lengths clear but the burden of carrying top weight for 4 ½ miles was too much.
Red Rum, with 23lb less than his rival, ate into the lead and beat him on the line to win by three-quarters of a length.
Two of the main protagonists tell the BBC Sport website of their memories of that unforgettable day 30 years ago.

 

[tigerboi]

Won well for a GN,at 16/1 as well...tb


Monty's Pass wins Grand National

Martell Cognac Grand National Chase 4m 4f

1 Monty's Pass
(B Geraghty) 16-1
2 Supreme Glory
(L Aspell) 40-1
3 Amberleigh House
(G Lee) 33-1

4 Gunner Welburn
(B Fenton) 16-1

Photos from Aintree





Monty's Pass stormed to a convincing win in the world-famous steeplechase at Aintree.
The mount of Barry Geraghty raced to a 12-length victory from Supreme Glory with trainer Ginger McCain's Amberleigh House back in third.
Gunner Welburn was fourth with Montifault fifth and last year's winner Bindaree in sixth.
Only 14 of the 40 horses finished the gruelling four-and-a-half mile course in Liverpool.
The 7-1 favourite Shotgun Willy was pulled up at Becher's Brook the second time around by jockey Ruby Walsh, winner of the day's first three races.
"It's the thing you dream about. To have the winner is unreal," said Monty's Pass' Irish trainer Jimmy Mangan.

HOW MUCH HAVE I WON?
1 Monty's Pass 50p each/way £11. £1 e/w £22. £5 e/w £110
2 Supreme Glory 50p e/w £5.50. £1 e/w £11. £5 e/w £55.
3 Amberleigh House 50p e/w £4.63. £1 e/w £9.25. £5 e/w £46.25
4 Gunner Welburn 50p e/w £2.50. £1 e/w £5.00. £5 e/w £25.00


"He's had a good rest and has come back 100 per cent. He has never let us down and is always in the money. He's the star of the stable.
"Barry [Geraghty] was superb."
Another pre-race fancy Ad Hoc unseated jockey Paul Carberry at the 19th fence, while Youlneverwalkalone was pulled up at the 12th and champion jockey Tony McCoy pulled up Iris Bleu at The Chair.
Geraghty was delighted with his horse's ability to cope over the big Aintree fences.
"He was like a cat, he jumped unbelievable," said Geraghty, who was the leading jockey at this year's Cheltenham Festival.

Walsh (left) congratulates winning jockey Geraghty


"I had a lovely run. There was no traffic up front.
"It's a thrill to finish a National never mind to win one.
"It's hard to believe he could win so easily."
Tremallt took up the early running from Montifault with Gunner Welburn, Chives, Blowing Wind and Torduff Express all featuring near the front in the first half of the race.
At The Chair on the second time around Gunner Welburn took the lead but made a mistake shortly after to let Montifault back in.
Carbury Cross also made a showing after the water jump as Monty's Pass moved to join the leaders for the first time.
Gunner Welburn was first over Becher's Brook on the second circuit ahead of Monty's Pass, Behrajan and Carbury Cross.

Following the Foinavon fence, the field was strung out with Gunner Welburn leading and only a handful of horses still in contention.
With two fences left, Monty's Pass went clear from Amberleigh House and a tiring Gunner Welburn.
Monty's Pass safely cleared the last and powered home, while Supreme Glory made a surging run behind to overhaul two horses to get up for second.
Nine horses were pulled up, while eight unseated their riders, eight fell and one refused.
One of the fallers, Goguenard, had to be put down after coming to grief on the second circuit.
Gerry Supple broke a leg when Burlu fell while Alan Dempsey fractured a wrist after taking a tumble from Robbo.
In addition, Timmy Murphy was concussed and broke his nose when unseated by Torduff Express while Bramblehill Duke's jockey Brian Crowley broke his collarbone.
With so many well-fancied horses failing to finish, it was a good day for the bookmakers.
However William Hill were landed with paying out more than £400,000 on two winning bets alone, their worst hit in Grand National history.


How they finished: 1st Monty's Pass (B J Geraghty) 12 lengths
2nd Supreme Glory (L Aspell) 2L
3rd Amberleigh House (G Lee) 14L
4th Gunner Welburn (B Fenton) 11L
5th Montifault 1L
6th Bindaree 18L
7th Carbury Cross 6L
8th Blowing wind 7L
9th Tremallt 7L
10th Behrajan 9L
11th Djeddah 8L
12th Majed Dis
13th Royal Predica 26L
14th Southern Star

 

[barney]

a couple of photos from that grand national footage.
Just goes to show that a horse by itself (giving the jump the runaround) is arguably more intelligent than a horse-plus-human-rider.

Gidday 20/20, I thought that was brilliant also ............ taking the detour around the fences ............ why jump 'em when you can go round 'em

Great spectacle, but a lot of carnage in the process ............. The power to weight ratio of Jockeys is pretty amazing ............. Tough little nuggets.

 

[2020hindsight]

Gidday 20/20, I thought that was brilliant also ............ taking the detour around the fences ............ why jump 'em when you can go round 'em .

barney
maybe a lesson there for all of us you reckon lol.

 

[barney]

barney
maybe a lesson there for all of us you reckon lol.

I've seen a lot of road users out there that work on the same principle as those horses .......... Thats why the RTA invented median strips !!

:car: utthedoor:

 

[tigerboi]

The rosehill guineas meeting this week so big fields & good odds,looking for few more winners at better odds this week...

rosehill

R1.no.6. light red

R2.no.1. over the wicket

R3.no.4. kosi bay...hard race but kosi the only one to win over the 1900m here

R4.no.8.glowlamp,3 starts for 3rd,3rd,2nd,just got run down last start & trainer clarry connors knows how to get a 2 yr.old into the slipper.

R5.no.2.triple honour,run down by crack 3 yr.old weekend hussler last start,no WH here so hard to go past him...

R6.no.11. danasierra,trained by JBC,most of the favs.have drawn wide in the field of 17,where you must draw inside 10,danger is rio osa,last start winner,gate 2,$6.00 but way up in class,going for barts mare danasierra.

group 1 rosehill guineas,feature race for 3 year olds,2000m,14 starters set weights 56.5kgs,no fillies in the race this year.

R7.no.11. guillotine,perfect race for him to win & confirm favouritism for the AJC derby,last start 2nd up was a cracker over 1600m coming from 14th on the turn to get beat only2.1L.,no.2 littorio looks the big danger with his last run a 2nd in open company,so guillotine the 1/2 bro to the melbourne cup winner efficient has his chance to live up to the wraps that he has had for 12 months...

R8.no.3. fooram & 17. sir james(1st emergency),fooram looks to have hit form at the right time for the sydney cup soon,sir james is a bart cummings horse ive followed for a while,if they both run im going to back both,watch out for no.5 young centaur,a kiwi raider with good staying form who could be a smokey at odds for the sydney cup & is a 2 mile(3200m) winner in kiwi land,only 5yr old & by a melb.cup winner.jeune(backed it at 20/1.)

R9.no.10. viewed,barts horse ive won on recently,up in class but has won 4/7 at rosehill,barts got no.14 gods hand who is 2/3 this track,backing both & the quinellas,exactas...

mooney valley...

R1.no.3. cascade

R2.no.1. toulouse lautrec(hopeless 3000m,some are that slow they should start tonight!)

R3.no.3. royale harmony

R4.no.1. surfside christmas

R5.no.1. rich success,3yo race over 2500 & the top weight as the only metro winner should win with no.7 skalartoor a maiden winner at geelong the next best...

R6.no.7. gunfire mesiah(had a huge win on this horse a while ago) 1st up from a spell,has won 3/5 1st up,10/1 are my type of odds...no 1 mr baritone will be hard to beat from gate 4,gm from 3...

R7.no.11. i'm a toff,1st up after good 1st prep.form,10/1..but 10 of the 13 can win this...

R8.no.9. roslotta,tipped her last start when 3rd here 2 weeks ago & has won here over the 1600m.

up at doomben i spotted a horse with a good record 1st up in r6 over 1350m.no.15 key to success has won 6/8 & is $11.00 in the paper,trained by bf cavanough from albury,he takes a team up there every winter to toowoomba i think & wins a heap of races,i follow them up there each year...

Doomben...


R6.no.15. key to success


go all up the tigers over canberra....tb

 

[tigerboi]

a couple of anthony cummings horse won at 10/1 last week that i had tipped the week before,siderus & the rosehill guineas winner name escapes me..
the slipper tomorrow..going for jbc colt r7 no 5 related,can overcome a wide draw at 10-12/1...

r1.no3.al be nimble

r2.no.17.any humour

r3.no.6. prince de galles

r4.no. 4 prima nova

r5.no. sirmione(mudlark)

r6.no.8 weekend hussler

r7.no. no 5 related

r8.no. 1 hot danish

r9.no.14.blessus


good punting,gonna have a big bet on related at 10/1 in the slipper...tb

 

[Stan 101]

G'day TB. myself and a mate took a few of your tips last week. I ended up in front almost 100% with Gunfire Messiah and I think Royal Harmony coming in winners.

I now have a reasonable pot to follow you tips with every couple of weeks or so..

Cheers,

 

[tigerboi]

G'day TB. myself and a mate took a few of your tips last week. I ended up in front almost 100% with Gunfire Messiah and I think Royal Harmony coming in winners.

I now have a reasonable pot to follow you tips with every couple of weeks or so..

Cheers,

yep good stuff i didnt think anyone would follow but i was hoping some of you might think i can tip a decent winner...ill go back over theresults of last week...

matey last week anthony cummings trained2 good winners,as you all know i follow bart cummings very closely,he got book of kells home in the 3rd today paid...$61.40 & $15.90....60/1 trained by JBC...

 

[tigerboi]

mate gunfire messiah paid $6.20 last week,i didnt get a chance to bet on the slipper as i broke down & lost 2 1 /2 hours so i didnt get back to the yard at 9.00am,when i normally get in around 5.30-6.00,so i was asleep when todays races where on,cant believe weekend hussler paid $2.60..

The doncaster & derby meeting next week where WH will attempt to win the doncaster with 57.5kg,which is a big weight for a 3 year old to carry in this race,manikato tried for a 3rd..anyway keep folowing bart & anthony cummings for good odds like the top prices on siderus, dealer principal the rosehill guineas winner for AJC,JBC looksto have a good chance in the derby so it could be AJC & BART fighting out the derby finish....just follow them trendsetters & you will collect...tb

 

[tigerboi]

G'day TB. myself and a mate took a few of your tips last week. I ended up in front almost 100% with Gunfire Messiah and I think Royal Harmony coming in winners.

I now have a reasonable pot to follow you tips with every couple of weeks or so..

Cheers,

The tb stable will send you the invoice for the % required.. to pay me in kind..tb

 

[tigerboi]

sydney was hard tipping but got home the crack 3 year old weekend hussler at $2.60....wtf cant believe those odds,had a few 2nds & 3rd & 4th as well,looking to doncaster/derby next week with bart & anthony cummings having a strong hand...

Onto melbourne we had a scratching in the first but got a few nice winners...

first militia $4.20

plus the 7th & 8th races with

vandalo $2.90

pinnacles $3.00

not a bad weekend but sydney was spolit by the wet track,heading up north to change over it rained all the way from pennant hills rd to clybucca,wish they would hurry up with the roadworks between karuah to buladelah,very ,very dangerous section with all the rain...tb,look out anyone heading that way,take great care...tb