Thought for the day

2020hindsight · 11 July 2009

green contribution - can't argue with that

MrBurns said:
Good luck, don't ride it on the roads, make sure you stick to the bike tracks, only suicide contenders mix it with the idiots that have drivers licenses these days.

Reminds me ... When the kids were small with their first bikes, we went for a holiday up to the Myall Lakes area - The (Pacific) highway was far too dangerous, 110kph etc - the dirt roads were dusty, and a car would appear from nowhere. So we all went riding around the lake hinterland on the forestry tracks.

- and ran over two red-belly black snakes.

noirua · 12 July 2009

Just because it's gone brown is not an excuse to leave it scruffy.

noirua · 12 July 2009

"Not taking sides is taking sides, they are not with us", - 1793 - Maximilien Francois Marie Isidore de Robespierre (16/5/1758 - 28/7/1794).

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

Sat beside a Portugese banker at a wedding in Macau once.
I said "Don't kow much about Portugal - but I understand that you don't kill the bull".
"Yes" he replied, "typical - we never finish anything we start".

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

noirua said:
"Not taking sides is taking sides, they are not with us", - 1793 - Maximilien Francois Marie Isidore de Robespierre (16/5/1758 - 28/7/1794).

noi, The bloke is fascinating yes? I always think that the French Revolution sheds some light on the earlier decision across the channel of sending convicts to Australia (1787/8). Or for that matter the Mutiny on the Bounty (1789). These were socially troubled times

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilien_Robespierre
He is sometimes rumoured to have been of Irish descent, and it has been suggested that his surname could be a corruption of 'Robert Speirs'

...He is also seen as the driving force behind the Reign of Terror

5 February, 1794, Robespierre stated,
If virtue be the spring of a popular government in times of peace, the spring of that government during a revolution is virtue combined with terror: virtue, without which terror is destructive; terror, without which virtue is impotent

Robespierre was one of the most popular orators in the Convention and his carefully prepared speeches often made a deep impression.

a deep impression ? - then again so did the guillotine - 5 months later- on his neck region.

1794 - Robespierre soon found himself at a loss for words after one deputy called for his arrest and another, Marc Guillaume Valdiergave, gave a mocking impression of him. When one deputy realized Robespierre's inability to respond, the man shouted, "The blood of Danton chokes him!"[12]

... 28 July, 1794, Robespierre was guillotined without trial in the Place de la RÃ©volution.

Cultural depictions:- In Victor Hugo's novel Les MisÃ©rables, he, and Rousseau are mentioned being deeply admired by the character Enjolras, the leader of the student revolutionaries

Sean K · 12 July 2009

2020hindsight said:
green contribution - can't argue with that

Reminds me ... When the kids were small with their first bikes, we went for a holiday up to the Myall Lakes area - The (Pacific) highway was far too dangerous, 110kph etc - the dirt roads were dusty, and a car would appear from nowhere. So we all went riding around the lake hinterland on the forestry tracks.

- and ran over two red-belly black snakes.

Really? WOW!!

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

kennas said:
Really? WOW!!

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=369811 howdy kennas.

noirua · 12 July 2009

2020hindsight said:
green contribution - can't argue with that

Reminds me ... When the kids were small with their first bikes, we went for a holiday up to the Myall Lakes area - The (Pacific) highway was far too dangerous, 110kph etc - the dirt roads were dusty, and a car would appear from nowhere. So we all went riding around the lake hinterland on the forestry tracks.

- and ran over two red-belly black snakes.

Some say those red bellies are the most handsome snakes in Australia. Depending on your liking the most handsome thing in Australia. Not good at fighting but great as guard dogs - I believe all who are bitten survive but are very unhappy bunnies indeed.

noirua · 12 July 2009

2020hindsight said:
noi, The bloke is fascinating yes? I always think that the French Revolution sheds some light on the earlier decision across the channel of sending convicts to Australia (1787/8). Or for that matter the Mutiny on the Bounty (1789). These were socially troubled times

a deep impression ? - then again so did the guillotine - 5 months later- on his neck region.

Robespierre made one fatal mistake at the height of his powers, he made those around him all think they could be next for the chop. People are at their most dangerous when they think all is lost and they have nothing left to lose.
I've listened to so many great speeches, that I know that is not really what they are. They reign in the gullible on both sides of the argument and the result is war. This has made me a pacifist, "Shoot them all I say, shoot them".

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

noirua said:
- I believe all who are bitten survive but are very unhappy bunnies indeed.

ahhh - agreed , not many deaths - but..
-
there was a kid killed in Qld when I was a boy.

I remember Ram Chandler (Ab snake expert) coming to our school to teach us how to handle snakebite. Told us this story about a farmkid coming home from school - running across a paddock, thought he kicked a stick - anyway later he finally complained to his mum - sore ankle etc - she twigged it was a snake (later identified as red belly black) - the father was away somewhere - delays in rounding up the horses for some reason due to some storm or something - the bridge was washed out or something - anyway a string of delays - kid died.

All this told in a melodramatic way - gruesome , bludy gruesome.
Kids in the audience fainting and/or having fits all over the place
I still have nightmares when I think of Ram Chandler lol.

PS no tourniquet throughout this process - which was his point - I think - either that or he just enjoyed traumatising kids.

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1453996

Deaths from snake bite in Australia, 1981-1991.Sutherland SK.
CSL Limited, Parkville, Vic.

OBJECTIVE: To obtain and analyse data relating to snake bite fatalities in Australia.

DESIGN: Retrospective analysis of case reports and collation of studies carried out at the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories (CSL).

RESULTS: 18 deaths attributed to snake bite were reported to CSL over a 10-year period.

Eleven of the victims were males and four of these were bitten after either picking up the snake or playing with it. In most cases, no pathological findings of significance were found at autopsy. Venom was detected in post-mortem samples from nine cases.

Brown snakes (genus Pseudonaja) were responsible for 11 deaths;
tiger snake (Notechus scutatus) for four,
taipan (Oxyuranus scutellatus) two and
death adder (Acanthophis australis) one.

Death after a brown snake bite was often sudden and unexpected. In three patients bitten by tiger snakes and in one bitten by a brown snake, the presence of cerebral haemorrhage was confirmed at autopsy.

CONCLUSIONS: Not all snake bite deaths in Australia are adequately investigated or reported. Under some circumstances death from snake bite is almost inevitable; two infants who received unwitnessed massive envenomations are tragic examples. Had venom absorption from the bitten area been delayed by correct first aid, some of the patients might have survived ...

I read somewhere that "More people die worrying about snakes (‘I think I saw a snake’, heartache –thud) than actually get bitten by them".
I think I prefer the report of the CSL Commonwealth Serum Laboratories above.

Suggestion before summer:- Maybe consider ringing CSL (and/or local hospital) and ask them which hospitals in your area have antivenom. (and maybe check that point with the local vet as well )

Sean K · 12 July 2009

For God's sake 2020, start your own forum somewhere else.

It's completely tiresome.

(on ignore I'm afraid to say )

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

kennas said:
For God's sake 2020, start your own forum somewhere else. It's completely tiresome. (on ignore I'm afraid to say )

Quick reply kennas - thought for the day if you prefer.
Poetry thread has 64K hits (not started by me conceded, but I've been the major sponsor).
I believe that approx 50 "social discussion" threads started by you (Why do models marry ugly millionaires etc) have a total of about double that. So you're right - you win.

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

PS kennas
I had a relative die from taipan bite.
I walked Kokoda in bare feet when you were a boy - and plenty of snakes there too. cheers

Calliope · 12 July 2009

kennas said:
For God's sake 2020, start your own forum somewhere else.

It's completely tiresome.

(on ignore I'm afraid to say )

Yes, 2020, I hope you take this advice. In one day you have resumed your juvenile habits of hijacking serious threads and flooding them with garbage. You have absolutely no taste in poetry nor music and your attempts at humour are pathetic.

I realise you have no other life outside this forum and your time in exile must have been hell, but what satisfaction do you get out of being such a crushing bore?

But of course you have a bore's thick hide, and criticism is like water off a duck's back.

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

Calliope said:
...hijacking serious threads and flooding them with garbage. .

ahh - so now ":thought for the day" is a serious thread lol
Calliope you're reasoning is a bit tainted by your bile.

But you're right, I have a heap of work to do. and may not reply in future to such taunts (by you, but possibly your subconscious intends them for yourself).
cheers

Calliope · 12 July 2009

2020hindsight said:
ahh - so now ":thought for the day" is a serious thread lol
Calliope you're reasoning is a bit tainted by your bile.

But you're right, I have a heap of work to do. and may not reply in future to such taunts (by you, but possibly your subconscious intends them for yourself).
cheers

This thread is not the only one you have sullied. Your response is, as usual, inane garbage. I hope the heap of work is not on this forum, but I'm afraid it will be, as I don't think you have any other life.

2020hindsight · 12 July 2009

Calliope said:
I love it when the bulls score a win at Pamplona.

hey calliope, there are heaps of youtubes out there of the young Spanish man being gored to death by the bull - go indulge your appetite.

Julia · 12 July 2009

kennas said:
For God's sake 2020, start your own forum somewhere else.

It's completely tiresome.

(on ignore I'm afraid to say )

What a splendid idea. Your very own forum, 2020. Now, how good would that be? Being generous and kind people, we will all help you with this project in any way we can.

Just think: you could spout utter bloody nonsense to your heart's content and no one would raise any objections.

I, for one, would even be happy to come up with some financial contribution to enable such a worthwhile venture.

Calliope · 12 July 2009

2020hindsight said:
hey calliope, there are heaps of youtubes out there of the young Spanish man being gored to death by the bull - go indulge your appetite.

You obviously see bullfighters as heroic figures.

As well as walking the Kokoda in bare feet kicking snakes aside, you have probably done some bullfighting as well.

A truly heroic figure.

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