The World is on the brink!

[Sean K]

Has the last decade been like the 1930s? Or, is this just the start?

Or, does MAD mean a global war is not possible?

Or, does Russia just take the Russian part of Ukraine (east side) and we all live happily ever after?

Or, does China now have a guide book on how to invade Taiwan and get away with it because the West doesn't have an official defence agreement with them?

And, where the F*CK is the United Nations? International law means nothing to this paper tiger.

 

[SirRumpole]

And, where the F*CK is the United Nations? International law means nothing to this paper tiger.

Good question.

It's time the democracies pulled out of the UN and created a new organisation just for those with Western values.

 

[IFocus]

The real question is who is going to die for the cause?

If so what is the cause? (serious question)

Défense of billionaires perhaps?

 

[Sean K]

The Ukraine thing is putting us into a real bind. BJ standing next to the Z man at a presser saying they are behind them is going to galvanise Russia, China and the other autocrats. This is not going away and we're backing Vlad into a corner. That's trouble.

 

[sptrawler]

The Ukraine thing is putting us into a real bind. BJ standing next to the Z man at a presser saying they are behind them is going to galvanise Russia, China and the other autocrats. This is not going away and we're backing Vlad into a corner. That's trouble.

If Russian public opinion does rise against Vlad. IMO it will get messy. The upside is we will probably get some second hand subs, while we wait for our order to be made. ?

 

[IFocus]

The Ukraine thing is putting us into a real bind. BJ standing next to the Z man at a presser saying they are behind them is going to galvanise Russia, China and the other autocrats. This is not going away and we're backing Vlad into a corner. That's trouble.

Do you meet aggression with strength appeasement or weakness?

Not sure Putin is in the Hitler mould but longer term it looks grim, I remember a nice quote about why Russians accept Putin, because they could end up with someone worse!

 

[sptrawler]

If Russian public opinion does rise against Vlad. IMO it will get messy. The upside is we will probably get some second hand subs, while we wait for our order to be made. ?

Meant to say if public opinion doesn't rise against Vlad, it will get messy. There is very little chance of him backing down without concessions or unless the Russian public turn against him, but I don't know enough about Russia or he people to have any idea whether the public have an affinity with Ukraine, or dislike the Ukraine.
Went to St Petersburg pre covid, nice place but the locals didn't appear overly interested in tourists, unlike Europe where people are peddling junk from pop up stalls.