I think you're speaking for youself here. "Incompatible" immigrants - whatever that means - don't bother me as long as they are law abiding. However I do worry about the misuse of government power to trample on the civil liberties of its citizens.
people will never be more scared of the government than they are of incompatible immigrants.
it is without a doubt fundamental islamic extremists exist and for various reasons wish to inflict terror on western countries, through different means. to ignore this threat as minor and therefore not worthy of appropriate action is, to me, irresponsible.
A ludicrous straw man argument, absolute nonsense. You obviously have not read:i find it quite ironic that the opening post claims the terrorists have won and achieved their aim of creating fear, when it appears to me that the post itself was designed to do just that?
claims that our civil liberties have been eroded and as a population we are living in fear are, to me, ridiculous.
i fully agree the media propagates fear through their relentless campaign of promoting the "war on terror" however in my opinion, this does not reflect the true attitudes of ordinary people.
it is without a doubt fundamental islamic extremists exist and for various reasons wish to inflict terror on western countries, through different means. to ignore this threat as minor and therefore not worthy of appropriate action is, to me, irresponsible.
When people willingly forgo civil liberties our fathers and grandfathers fought and died for, people are scared.wayneL said:we have the capabilities to fight that successfully without some of the absurd measures put in place, which I argue actually detract from our effectiveness in that aim.
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Islamist terrorism has been around since 1948.. what's different now? Media and the pollies beating it up is what.
Islamist terrorism has been around since 1948.. what's different now?
It wasn't at our doorstep in 1948 and in the 70's and 80's the PLO and similar organisations were focusing on Israel, not the west. Recall the Black September attack in West Germany, their aim was to kill Israeli athletes and officials, not 'westerners'.
The current level of legislation forces the authorities to take their eye off the ball. For instance, airport security is pedantic and ridiculous. Concentrating on how much toothpaste you have is completely asinine, founded upon a fabricated threat and dodgy chemistry. The really logical things are not being done at all.now you want to claim government policy is absurd and the internal threats can be dealt with much more effectively. please elaborate.
The current level of legislation forces the authorities to take their eye off the ball. For instance, airport security is pedantic and ridiculous. Concentrating on how much toothpaste you have is completely asinine, founded upon a fabricated threat and dodgy chemistry. The really logical things are not being done at all.
Well, I don't think racial profiling is kosher, but certainly cultural and/or nationality profiling should perhaps be considered.... like racial profiling
Firstly, chops I'm pretty sure besides the Brits, no other 'westerners' were killed by the Zionists' nor their enemy the Palestinian national socialists' over some 'white paper' proposed by the Brits and despised by both sides.So when the Zionists were killing westerners and brits in the late 40s, how did we deal with the problem then?
It's always interesting to see how the words, "murder" and "terrorism" (which in fact is credited to being developed by zionists) are so easily substituted for the word "campaigning" depending on what side you are on.At the end of the day, it was brillant campaiging by the Zionists to get the necessary support from the UN and US by lobbying them, even though neither was in favour of more Jewish migration to then Palestine.
juw177 said:THE TRUTH ABOUT TERRORISM
Pulleeeze!Zionists' were 'campaigning' the UN and US on their ground...pretty sure they left their 'murdering' and 'terrorism' devices at home. To think if the Arabs had done the same the outcome could have been different...
Thanks for clearing up the origins of 'murder' and 'terrorism'...I'm pretty sure every historian will be quite pleased to know it was them and not the 11th century secret Islamic order the 'assassins' who too murdered and harassed their enemies...
The typical straw man argument is trotted out yet again that balanced argument is somehow supporting the Islamists. That Bill O'Reilly stuff getting a bit worn out mate.While your post is bordering on the completely irrelevant, i note with amusement that you omitted the many many dead in Madrid and Indonesia. but hey, whatever suits your argument...
not to mention the 1000's more killed by islamic extremists in middle eastern countries..
not to mention all that is done to combat road deaths..
not to mention the fact that plenty is done to combat health related deaths - which are mostly all self-inflicted.
are you saying that we shouldnt do anything about islamic extremism?
Thanks for clearing up the origins of 'murder' and 'terrorism'...I'm pretty sure every historian will be quite pleased to know it was them and not the 11th century secret Islamic order the 'assassins' who too murdered and harassed their enemies...
Irgun was a clandestine militant Zionist group that operated in Palestine from 1931 to 1948. In addition to smuggling Jews into Palestine, the Irgun began in 1936 a policy of responding to acts of terror against Jews by committing terrorist attacks against random Arabs. These attacks were intended to instill fear in the Arab side, in order to cause the Arabs to wish for peace and quiet. These "retaliation and revenge" acts continued until the formation of the State of Israel in 1948.
In addition to the terrorist acts against Arabs, the Irgun also was involved in fighting against the British rule of Palestine. Their goal was to respond against British policies they disagreed with, and ultimately, to force the British to grant Jews the right to form their own nation in Palestine, Their most famous attack was the bombing of the King David Hotel which was the centre of the British administration in Palestine. In 1948, the group was formally dissolved and its members integrated into the newly formed Israeli Defense Forces.
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