The state of the economy at the street level

mullokintyre said:

Tree Huggers , are like members of the Bradfield Party , they mean well, but because they are so passionate about their pet subject(s), they lose a sense of realism.
I am always a tad wary of anyone who says they passionate about anything, they tend to lose their ability to be rational.
There are few folk like that here on ASF,
Mick

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farmerge said:

@mullokintyre I am quite passionate about some things but don't suffer tunnel vision because of it.
At the moment I am more than passionate about standing upright and staying that way and casting a shadow.

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qldfrog said:

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I am sure there is some use in society or culture, food hospitality and personal services University degrees but somewhat limited
People spending $137k and 3y for a creative art uni degree..i see that as insane

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divs4ever said:

have you seen some of the 'art ' .. one might have thought counselling might have been a better option , but no they had to express their feelings to the public

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qldfrog said:

To put things in perspective:
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I am sure there is some use in society or culture, food hospitality and personal services University degrees but somewhat limited
People spending $137k and 3y for a creative art uni degree..i see that as insane

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over9k said:

Narrative. It's finally starting to shift but there's plenty of work to do yet.


I don't like the way they've counted it though - I'd run the sums on all the tuition fees and then the net difference of student payments vs working a fair paying but dead end job and then include investing the money in a basic unit or some type of investment property rather than the degree.

There's a lot of gen Z kids that have realised that degrees are not the investment they used to be and are just working and investing in investment properties from like 19 like this kid here: https://www.tiktok.com/@propertywithharley

If I could go back in time it's exactly what I would do and if I had an 18 year old kid here right now asking me "do I go to uni or not?" I'd be telling them to do the exact same thing as this kid has.

He's going to be very comfortably retired by 30.

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qldfrog said:

i am afraid you are right, to a kid,get a TAFE, and follow the Australian dream..

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qldfrog said:

The figures at least include accommodation/living costs along these 3y.. something often bypassed, adding 3 y of study has serious cost:
For a surgeon, IT or engineer..well you need the degree, extra education so it is needed.
I doubt a painter, singer/songwriter or book writer is getting his success thru following a cursus and a bachelor of art.
Do not take me wrong, i am all for knowledge, cartesian thinking, sciences, geo politics, history and as well literature but i perfectly know the output of Australian universities..abysmal, sheeps swallowing any BS, no science background and knowledge restricted to at best a narrow technical field based on degree.
Sadly, i am afraid you are right, to a kid,get a TAFE, and follow the Australian dream..

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