The ScoMo Government

[moXJO]

Shorten was from the grubbiest union
Glad he's not PM

If they stop trying to be the "everything to everyone" party and get back to basics, they will have a much clearer message.
Democrats in the US are making the same mistake. They need to stop pandering to fringe messages and govern on real issues for the average Australian.

For the libs to get back in, should of been a large wakeup call. Libs bloody sucked last term and not much has changed so far.

 

[Smurf1976]

Retirees is a bit rich
I'd settle for retiree with SMSF who pays no tax demographic

It was far broader than just those with an SMSF.

It was basically aimed at anyone not working and not claiming welfare.

 

[Smurf1976]

Labor needs to work out what it is before anyone is going to vote for them. Their last effort was a sht show.

And be consistent about it.

Arguing about the “top end of town” is one thing and may well have some merit.

Where it fails is when the definition of that in practice includes posties, truck drivers and electricians but doesn’t include CEO’s and billionaires.

It’s the sort of logic which sees someone finding Sydney too cold in Winter. Sounds plausible until you find out they’ve fixed the problem by moving to Hobart. Um.......

We’re living in an era where if something doesn’t stack up then most won’t just go along with it. That goes for all sides of politics and most other things too.

 

[Humid]

It was far broader than just those with an SMSF.

It was basically aimed at anyone not working and not claiming welfare.

And you reckon they were Labor voters

Spare me

 

[sptrawler]

All I will say about Labours franking credit brain fart is, why would you take $7,000 off those who just does't qualify for a pension, yet give $ 50m of credits, to someone who does'nt pay tax through a trust?
Weird $hit, unless there is another agenda OMG, Labour wouldnt do that they are the saviours.
Ra Ra Ra, untill it turns to $hit, then they are thrown out again.
Rinse, wash, repeat, then history repeats.
Trust us we have a great idea, but we will stuff it up.

 

[Smurf1976]

And you reckon they were Labor voters

They used to be back when Labor represented workers such as tradesmen, factory workers, labourers, mine site workers and so on.

Labor has lost that group to the point that it's not hard to find a 20-something year old tradesman who literally doesn't realise Labor is associated with the unions. I kid you not and I've heard it a few times now from people in that age group - "the unions ought to start a political party......".

What that age group associates Labor with is uni students, the arts and minority groups. Turn up at a mine, building site, heavy industry etc and mention politics and you'll find no real support for either side but a definite thinking that the Coalition is closer to being "their" party despite very obvious shortcomings.

The best thing that could happen for Australian politics, and for that matter probably for Australia more broadly, would be for Labor to reconnect with its roots and in doing so put real pressure on the Coalition. Do that and both will lift their standards out of necessity.

 

[sptrawler]

Really well put smurf, the problem is Labour are so out of touch, they dont see the problem and when you hear Labour supporters they have no idea what a blue collar worker is anymore, most would be better served voting the Greens.
At least they would get someone who more closely meets their beliefs.

 

[Humid]

We should start a Labor thread with a Liberal heading
We can complain about the opposition to take our minds off Scummo

 

[sptrawler]

We should start a Labor thread with a Liberal heading
We can complain about the opposition to take our minds off Scummo

You should start a Labor thread, it will be interesting to see what you write, should be a scintilating thread.

 

[Smurf1976]

We should start a Labor thread with a Liberal heading
We can complain about the opposition to take our minds off Scummo

I think it comes down to the reality that the only reason ScoMo's the PM is because of Labor. It wasn't so much that the Coalition won the election but that Labor lost it hence the focus which isn't unique to this thread or forum.

It's a situation akin to saying that some 75 year old won the running race not because they're any good at running but because they were the only one who turned up in sports shoes and actually ran toward the finish line.

 

[Humid]

You should start a Labor thread, it will be interesting to see what you write, should be a scintilating thread.

Well it wouldn’t take much for you and your audience of 2 to keep entertained

 

[sptrawler]

Well it wouldn’t take much for you and your audience of 2 to keep entertained

Well you keep trolling me, so we might as well call it 3.

 

[Humid]

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/ambassador-richard-court-stoked-to-be-in-the-land-of-the-rising-sun/

It just never ends

 

[sptrawler]

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/ambassador-richard-court-stoked-to-be-in-the-land-of-the-rising-sun/

It just never ends

It is good to see in the article Allan Carpenter, is doing o.k in the corporate world, I wondered what happened to him after he left politics.

 

[IFocus]

I think it comes down to the reality that the only reason ScoMo's the PM is because of Labor. It wasn't so much that the Coalition won the election but that Labor lost it hence the focus which isn't unique to this thread or forum.

It's a situation akin to saying that some 75 year old won the running race not because they're any good at running but because they were the only one who turned up in sports shoes and actually ran toward the finish line.

Ture Labor maybe loss the unloseable but looking at $250 mil of pork maybe one of the reasons the polls got it so wrong!

I wonder?

 

[Humid]

It is good to see in the article Allan Carpenter, is doing o.k in the corporate world, I wondered what happened to him after he left politics.

Good to see you kept your focus on the minute Labor content
Hook line and sinker

 

[sptrawler]

Good to see you kept your focus on the minute Labor content
Hook line and sinker

Yes nothing like a well researched article, well done, threw the hook.

 

[Logique]

We should start a Labor thread with a Liberal heading
We can complain about the opposition to take our minds off Scummo

Well it wouldn’t take much for you and your audience of 2 to keep entertained

We've just had the Franking Credit and Climate Change Election Humid. A few more than 2 I'd say

 

[Humid]

We've just had the Franking Credit and Climate Change Election Humid. A few more than 2 I'd say

I think the next one will be climate change

 

[macca]

I think the next one will be climate change

If that is true then the Libs will win again, the last two were about climate change, Libs won both.

Joe Public are so sick of the hysteria that they have switched off, they go to work, they go to the pub, they enjoy themselves...................