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There's no way they'll call an election until they've released that monster budget 
The ScoMo Government
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Interesting week.
I can only assume Bill Shorten is papering over divisions within his own party on border security to take on the government and PM ScoMo on in this policy area. It doesn't make sense otherwise when Labor, on published polling, is cruising towards an easy victory in the upcoming election.
I can only assume Bill Shorten is papering over divisions within his own party on border security to take on the government and PM ScoMo on in this policy area. It doesn't make sense otherwise when Labor, on published polling, is cruising towards an easy victory in the upcoming election.
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Good to see you back Doc
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Hmmm, I'm no fan of this government, but I will erect an alter to ScoMo et al, if they can keep the vandals out.
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The boost in the polls, will just show most are looking for any reason, to not vote for Bill. IMO
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Are you asking in historical, figurative, or allegorical sense?
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Good to see Bill Shorten pay out on the lies and BS of this terminal government.
On the medical evacuation bill attacks, Bill Shorten had this to say:
I think what we need to do is call out shameless coalition lies about Labor policy. Anyone who tries to get on a boat, we will send them to regional processing, Manus Island or – what we have done is codify when people who need medical treatment, in our care, instead of having Peter Dutton in charge of health plans are individuals, we will have a listen to the doctors.
Ask yourself, when you are feeling sick do you go and see Peter Dutton or do you go and see the doctor.
We have the same policy, all we are doing is codify in it. This is where the government are such a cheeky bunch of roosters. They have brought 900 people here already from Manus and Nauru based on medical advice.
Yet somehow when Labor and Kerryn Phelps and the conscience of the Liberal Party proposed to codify and put some rules around it, the government said somehow that was a terrible idea.
The government cannot have that both ways. I promise Australians we will fight the people smugglers. If we win the next election we will have the same navy and the same air force and the same Border Force, doing all the same things, but we’ll make sure we have strong borders without sacrificing the humanity of treating a few people who are in our duty of care.”
Bill Shorten at a press conference calling on the government to announce a royal commission into disability abuse:
This is a government that is out of control. You can all see it, why don’t we say what it is, it doesn’t matter if it is refusing to vote on a disability royal commission, because they are so puffed up with their own pride they don’t want to be seen to lose a vote, or, we have got the scandalous Paladin, where they can hand out contract, Peter Dutton yet again at the centre of an incompetency scandal, handing out $423 million and then saying it has nothing to do with me, it’s my department.
Well, hello, Peter, you are the minister.
If it isn’t your department, whose is it? And they carry on with this anti-union bias, yet they never have anything to say about how everything is going up in Australia except wages.
Australians can smell a desperate government at a hundred paces and this is a desperate government. They opposed Labor’s measures to protect small business. We want to give small business the power to take on big is this when they believe the business is behaving badly to small business, and we have done this by saying that small business shouldn’t face the litigation hurdle of paying the cost of big isn’t as in the court case. So essentially we are backing David in a David and Goliath struggle.
The government is splitting the Senate and split in the House. The problem in Australia is that we have a government to incompetent and too divided to run a government, but to desperate and too scared to taste the people.”
Dutton has said he did not have anything to do with the contract, and that it was done within the department, after going through a commonwealth procurement process.
On the medical evacuation bill attacks, Bill Shorten had this to say:
I think what we need to do is call out shameless coalition lies about Labor policy. Anyone who tries to get on a boat, we will send them to regional processing, Manus Island or – what we have done is codify when people who need medical treatment, in our care, instead of having Peter Dutton in charge of health plans are individuals, we will have a listen to the doctors.
Ask yourself, when you are feeling sick do you go and see Peter Dutton or do you go and see the doctor.
We have the same policy, all we are doing is codify in it. This is where the government are such a cheeky bunch of roosters. They have brought 900 people here already from Manus and Nauru based on medical advice.
Yet somehow when Labor and Kerryn Phelps and the conscience of the Liberal Party proposed to codify and put some rules around it, the government said somehow that was a terrible idea.
The government cannot have that both ways. I promise Australians we will fight the people smugglers. If we win the next election we will have the same navy and the same air force and the same Border Force, doing all the same things, but we’ll make sure we have strong borders without sacrificing the humanity of treating a few people who are in our duty of care.”
Bill Shorten at a press conference calling on the government to announce a royal commission into disability abuse:
This is a government that is out of control. You can all see it, why don’t we say what it is, it doesn’t matter if it is refusing to vote on a disability royal commission, because they are so puffed up with their own pride they don’t want to be seen to lose a vote, or, we have got the scandalous Paladin, where they can hand out contract, Peter Dutton yet again at the centre of an incompetency scandal, handing out $423 million and then saying it has nothing to do with me, it’s my department.
Well, hello, Peter, you are the minister.
If it isn’t your department, whose is it? And they carry on with this anti-union bias, yet they never have anything to say about how everything is going up in Australia except wages.
Australians can smell a desperate government at a hundred paces and this is a desperate government. They opposed Labor’s measures to protect small business. We want to give small business the power to take on big is this when they believe the business is behaving badly to small business, and we have done this by saying that small business shouldn’t face the litigation hurdle of paying the cost of big isn’t as in the court case. So essentially we are backing David in a David and Goliath struggle.
The government is splitting the Senate and split in the House. The problem in Australia is that we have a government to incompetent and too divided to run a government, but to desperate and too scared to taste the people.”
Dutton has said he did not have anything to do with the contract, and that it was done within the department, after going through a commonwealth procurement process.
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Those you want kept out. Agree the past has gone but can return.
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Labor, in a word. Wrong ideas, at exactly the wrong time.
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Do not disagree but the libs are not going to help the growing number of 60 year old women living alone in their cars because THERE ARE NO REAL JOBS.
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Very true explod, it is a huge problem in all the mature first world economies, outsourcing manufacturing leaves very little in the way of meaningfull work.
Australia is at a bigger disadvantage than most Countries, due to the distance to markets and the small size of the domestic market.
It will be difficult, even if new technologies open up new field of expertise, the world has become a small place.
So any new ideas are quickly picked up by companies, located nearer the markets, I really don't see how Australia can become a manufacturing Country again.
Hopefully Australia can forge out a niche in something.
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I know that in America, some manufacturing has gone back onshore. However, it only makes sense to do this where the factories are highly automated, and so the cost of labour doesn't really factor in. That's a possible future for Australia too. Possibly not what you had in mind though.
Our niches at the moment are mining, agriculture, and education. Another possible future could be in capturing solar/wind energy, since we have so much of it, converting it into hydrogen and shipping it to the world.
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Wish you were right but:
Africa is nearer to market with sahara solar capacity for europe and china has same advantage, cooler weather and much capacity in its inner deserts, plus you need water so infrastructure for hydrogen generation
Not a chance of success in my opinion unless you leverage mining capacity.so export energy as aluminium, iron,copper but we can see already where our clear advantage went down the drain in trying to play that game.visit Chile or Argentina today and you have the Australia of tomorrow.not something i am looking forward to.
wayneL
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We are in agreeance there, pard.
We had so many really great opportunities here, just pi55ed away by dumb policy on both sides over decades.
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This government, but other too..when you poke the giant panda, expect consequences
The greens are celebrating
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The ducks could be lining up for Scomo IMO, talk about falling on your feet.lol
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Gee, when you take a stand on a matter of principle, sometimes it works out for you
Say what you like about the cross bench faux LUE (Liberal Until Elected) members, at least they're doing that much!
Still don't think the Coalition can win.
Say what you like about the cross bench faux LUE (Liberal Until Elected) members, at least they're doing that much!
Still don't think the Coalition can win.
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I'm with you on that, but once the effect of Labor's tax policies, get added to an already panicked housing market.Gee, when you take a stand on a matter of principle, sometimes it works out for you
Still don't think they'll win.
You never know, as WayneL said, Labor may have the wrong policies, at exactly the wrong time.
Also Morrison is no mumbling bumbling idiot, like Malcolm was, so Bill can't rely on disenchanted LNP voters either.IMO
Anyway whatever the outcome, it will at least be a bit more interesting, than it looked like it was going to be.
