The ScoMo Government

Tisme said:

To me, Scott is like that 2 week aunty visitor who comes to Mum's home and sets about hijacking the table conversation, talking endlessly about her unique insight into all things, including fantastic infarcations about the family history.

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And generates massive amounts of bs on the way.

sptrawler said:

Well the SMH, will have to get all guns blazing, before the next election.
If they want to have any hope, of getting a Shorten led Labor, over a Morrison led Liberals.
Let the war begin.
Can't wait to see the first polls come in, my guess a BIG rebound, in Lib support.

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You are so fixated on Fairfax, I mean it makes sense you're a self confessed coalition voter yet this is the front pages of the Murdoch stable yesterday. https://i.redd.it/nz2qr0h0g5i11.jpg
4 of those portraying a lovely family portrait as though he was just democratically elected by the public vote and not the blood bath that took place in the Liberal party room only hours earlier. I don't know how things are in W.A but the Herald Sun in Victoria has a large influence. It's what the bogans read who don't give a stuff about politics as to their credit the HS does have great AFL coverage. They have now been in full elect Mathew Guy mode for a few months now.

Tisme said:

To me, Scott is like that 2 week aunty visitor who comes to Mum's home and sets about hijacking the table conversation, talking endlessly about her unique insight into all things, including fantastic infarcations about the family history.

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With your terrific litereral skills I would love to hear your analysis of silly Billy.

overhang said:

You are so fixated on Fairfax, I mean it makes sense you're a self confessed coalition voter yet this is the front pages of the Murdoch stable yesterday. https://i.redd.it/nz2qr0h0g5i11.jpg
4 of those portraying a lovely family portrait as though he was just democratically elected by the public vote and not the blood bath that took place in the Liberal party room only hours earlier. I don't know how things are in W.A but the Herald Sun in Victoria has a large influence. It's what the bogans read who don't give a stuff about politics as to their credit the HS does have great AFL coverage. They have now been in full elect Mathew Guy mode for a few months now.

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I don't even look at the Murdoch papers, and cant stand Bolt, Jones and co.
I just find Fairfax annoying because of their blatant bias, other than that I find them a great read.
Actually if it wasn't for the obvious political bias, I would probably subscribe to them.

Smurf1976 said:

To me it's just too blatant that the Liberals are governing for the benefit of a select few and not the majority. Plus I'm truly fed up with the standard routine:

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I don't believe I've ever seen a government so willing to ignore expert advice they receive, it's like they commission these reports in hope that they'll justify the direction they want to take due to ideology and when the report doesn't they just go ahead with their policy direction regardless. I think the reef rort sums up this Liberal government, all against welfare for the most vulnerable and all for corporate welfare. They gave $444 million without any type of tender process to a organisation with only 6 employees. They gifted $30 million to Murdochs Foxtel without a shred of paperwork to be found outlining conditions or evidence on why they should receive the grant.

sptrawler said:

I don't even look at the Murdoch papers, and cant stand Bolt, Jones and co.
I just find Fairfax annoying because of their blatant bias, other than that I find them a great read.
Actually if it wasn't for the obvious political bias, I would probably subscribe to them.

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Fair enough, does Fairfax printed press have a large sway in W.A? I won't deny they are left leaning but I feel they are closer to center and News Corp and The Guardian are just direct opposites with blatant partisanship.

sptrawler said:

With your terrific litereral skills I would love to hear your analysis of silly Billy.

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The trouble is I have so much bias against Penny, Tanya and the spectre of being forced to be a homosexual by Billy I don't know if I can give a negative critique.

TikoMike said:

Interesting, so now one of his first moves is to invite Trump into our country. I wonder if "stop the boats" ScoMo will be going back to his conservative values now that he is no longer under Turnbull's shadow?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...onald-trump-to-australia-20180825-p4zzq6.html

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overhang said:

Fair enough, does Fairfax printed press have a large sway in W.A? I won't deny they are left leaning but I feel they are closer to center and News Corp and The Guardian are just direct opposites with blatant partisanship.

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No, the only paper over here is the West Australian and the Australian, neither are any good IMO, so I usually just browse the free content on the SMH and sport on the Age
I am generally a Lib voter, but not rusted on, used to be rusted on Labor, but through life,s experiences have been disappointed with their blatant two faced attitude.
I,ve found when the Libs are in Labor and the unions keep them honest, when Labor are in the unions help them screw the plebs over, it becomes a free for all IMO.

sptrawler said:

Jones and co.
I just find Fairfax annoying because of their blatant bias, other than that I find them a great read.
Actually if it wasn't for the obvious political bias, I would probably subscribe to them.

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Biased in which direction do you think ?

sptrawler said:

I am generally a Lib voter, but not rusted on, used to be rusted on Labor, but through life,s experiences have been disappointed with their blatant two faced attitude.
I,ve found when the Libs are in Labor and the unions keep them honest, when Labor are in the unions help them screw the plebs over, it becomes a free for all IMO.

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Same started following Hawke/Keating then moved to Howard/Costello after their first term and found this 20 years of politics quite good for the country imo of course.

To me it has all been downhill since 2007 and getting worse......I certainly will not be voting for any of the major parties or the Greens at the next election that is for sure.....

Julie Bishop has resigned from Cabinet.

Will she contest the next election ? Doubtful.

SirRumpole said:

Julie Bishop has resigned from Cabinet.
Will she contest the next election ? Doubtful.

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I don't think so. She is apparently totally pi$$ed off that not one of her WA colleagues supported her in the ballot. Pity, she was a good foreign minister.

Country Lad said:

I don't think so. She is apparently totally pi$$ed off that not one of her WA colleagues supported her in the ballot. Pity, she was a good foreign minister.

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I certainly think she found her niche in that role, but I never thought she would fit the PM role, not quick enough on the run. IMO

Smurf1976 said:

I'm not so much in favour of Labor as I am against the Liberals at this point.

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Pretty much sums it up I think

How long can the Coalition keep talking about helping the Aussie battler then strip money/conditions etc from the masses while handing out corporate welfare.

Scomo is a leading figure in this ruse I think at this rate Labor just have to turn up for the next drovers dog election if the Coalition keep it up.

Spoiler -> Rant Ahead.

Agree that JB does/did a fantastic job as Foreign Minister, pity she's calling it quits but with all that in-house bickering and school boy favouritism, is it any wonder?

As a swinging voter, sure policies are important but I am swayed to a certain extent by the strength and depth of character of the party leader. After all, that leader is our country's representative and our face to the world. Dumbo, sorry, Dutton has none of those qualities IMHO. Scott Morrison and so too Julie Bishop have those qualities in spades over Dumbo, sorry, Dutton.

I'd say ScoMo's real challenge (behind the scenes) is to keep TA and his cronies in line and stop them from scuttling the ship...again.

FWIW. It is a real pity that Turnbull couldn't get the big end of town company tax cuts through. The average punter (voter) needs to see these cuts not as further lining exec's pockets but vital and necessary to keep Australia economically healthy and competitive on so many fronts.

As a micro business owner the tax cuts my business is now enjoying has allowed me to employ a new to the workforce 20yr job seeker. This is that person's first tax paying job so not only gaining valuable work experience and training but returning those govt. tax cuts by way of PAYG and GST taxes. Further, there's the Super contributions which help in the longer term to take the Pension burden off the tax payer. Business owners will know of the other on costs, insurance, workers comp etc all adding to stimulating our economy to the positive. Not to mention, this one worker now has a disposable income. Fuel, food, treats, car maintenance, white goods, retail and so on all benefit from that one little tax cut for my business.

Surely the average punter must realize that the big end of town tax cuts will be advantageous to all Australians?
So what if those cuts go to the shareholders. The big end of town has the big fundies on the register. Yep, that's where most of our Super is so isn't that a win/win?
I'd hazard a guess that jobs would be more secure too. The spins offs are fair more positive than negative however the majority of the electorate and pollies alike don't see it that way. More Dumbo's at work...

I suppose now too that so few Aussies have the altruistic attitude of decades ago where building the nation equals a more affluent lifestyle. It is a real pity that the mindset seems to be one of entitlement instead of participant.

ScoMo has a lot of work to do before we vote again that's for sure but with the mindset that I see, if he wins, it'll be against all odds.

Craton said:

Surely the average punter must realize that the big end of town tax cuts will be advantageous to all Australians?
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This is only true if you have tax reform.........not just tax cuts to the big end.

Who makes up the shortfall in revenue that includes the big spends on the Coalition polices?

Do we do a Trump and rack up another $trl in debt?

I fully support tax cuts to small business.

IFocus said:

This is only true if you have tax reform.........not just tax cuts to the big end.

Who makes up the shortfall in revenue that includes the big spends on the Coalition polices?

Do we do a Trump and rack up another $trl in debt?

I fully support tax cuts to small business.

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Yes, I failed to note that MT stated time and time again tax reform was needed and yes those cuts are/were part of it.

Racking up debt?
I'll leave that for the economists and politicians to debate over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_government_debt

Yep, small business is one big employer with a lot of red tape to cut through without having the resources at their disposal like their bigger cousins. They/we need all the breaks we can get.

"I'm not pretending to know one end of a sheep from another," LOL

https://www.news.com.au/national/br...d/news-story/c6cfa245846019f931c0ae2f6f718ef3

I heard a rumour ole Scotty once entered a sheep at the royal easter show...

Craton said:

FWIW. It is a real pity that Turnbull couldn't get the big end of town company tax cuts through. The average punter (voter) needs to see these cuts not as further lining exec's pockets but vital and necessary to keep Australia economically healthy and competitive on so many fronts.

As a micro business owner the tax cuts my business is now enjoying has allowed me to employ a new to the workforce 20yr job seeker. This is that person's first tax paying job so not only gaining valuable work experience and training but returning those govt. tax cuts by way of PAYG and GST taxes.

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It's great that you've chosen to employ someone but sadly I see quite a few businesses where the approach is to minimise wages and staff numbers, offshoring where possible, meanwhile shareholder returns are mediocre at best whilst the directors and CEO reap the benefits. Sadly that's not one or two outliers but rather common, hence the growing disparity between the director and CEO class and everyone else including shareholders and workers.

Those who claim that it's not viable to do x in Australia and slowly go broke, only to be shown as fools when someone from overseas buys the business and turns it completely around, are another lot in the same category. Commonsense says they're worse than worthless if someone else can easily turn around what they can't and yet such people manage to spend half their career as director or CEO of something whilst being paid a ridiculous amount to slash employment and deliver mediocre returns to shareholders over and over.

We were better off back in the days when being at the top required having spent many years working for the company with the reward being that you were now paid 3 times a normal wage not 300 times.

So as I said, it's great if you're running a successful business and creating employment but sadly there's a lot of bigger operators who are doing their best to minimise tax, jobs, wages and pretty much everything other than executive pay.