The ScoMo Government

[sptrawler]

Well the SMH, will have to get all guns blazing, before the next election.
If they want to have any hope, of getting a Shorten led Labor, over a Morrison led Liberals.
Let the war begin.
Can't wait to see the first polls come in, my guess a BIG rebound, in Lib support.

 

[wayneL]

Well the SMH, will have to get all guns blazing, before the next election.
If they want to have any hope, of getting a Shorten led Labor, over a Morrison led Liberals.
Let the war begin.
Can't wait to see the first polls come in, my guess a BIG rebound, in Lib support.

It won't be from me.

 

[CanOz]

Labor voter Wayne? Greens?

 

[drsmith]

After the past week in particular, the new PM and deputy will need to rebuild trust with the electorate that his party can continue to govern and critical to that, that it's a united team. That won't be easy, but one difference between this coup and the previous one's against the sitting PM is that the assassin didn't get the gig. One can only hope that this leaves less bad blood within the party as a result.

ScoMo and JF will need time to rebuild that trust and improved polling in my view and ScoMo gave the hint yesterday that he's in no hurry to go to an election.

Sportsbet have a market who will be preferred PM on this weekend's Newspoll and has Bill Shorten in front at $1.70 to ScoMo at $2.15.

 

[Logique]

Peter Dutton would have been a tough sell in the southern, especially the mendicant states. And being in a marginal seat, he'll have to spend a lot of time at home in his electorate.

If Scott Morrison is smart, he'll recall how close was the leadership ballot 40-45, and steer Coalition policies accordingly. Coalition voters want a point of difference, not Labor Lite.

 

[SirRumpole]

Coalition voters want a point of difference, not Labor Lite.

Yes I agree. The further Right the Coalitions policies are, the less the electorate likes them.

So Scomo should go as far Right as he can, although the Libs will pretend they are family friendly until the election and after that if they win it will be back to Medicare co payments and tax cuts for the rich.

 

[ghotib]

After the past week in particular, the new PM and deputy will need to rebuild trust with the electorate that his party can continue to govern and critical to that, that it's a united team. That won't be easy, but one difference between this coup and the previous one's against the sitting PM is that the assassin didn't get the gig.

True, but the real assassin is still in the parliament and IMO the coalition won't win the trust of voters until he's gone.

 

[luutzu]

I'm getting a sense of switch&bait here, again, three times now.

The party in power make policies that aren't very popular with the masses; their polling numbers show plebeian discontent. What is a party of public servants to do? Change policies? Make good on their promises to regain the votes?

Nah... stuffed that.

Let's just replace the head of the party. Make a new pledge. Promise change, hope, new beginning, fresh start, new innovation and better leadership/servitude.

Rinse. Repeat.

Used to be some sort of accountability every four years. The plebs get to have a say. Now it's just scapegoating. Seem to be working too.

 

[Knobby22]

True, but the real assassin is still in the parliament and IMO the coalition won't win the trust of voters until he's gone.

That is very true.
I can't trust the Libs anymore until they get rid of him. He has a whole TV and newspaper network backing him against his own party.

 

[TikoMike]

Interesting, so now one of his first moves is to invite Trump into our country. I wonder if "stop the boats" ScoMo will be going back to his conservative values now that he is no longer under Turnbull's shadow?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...onald-trump-to-australia-20180825-p4zzq6.html

 

[noirua]

It does seem that the Aussie Government is trying to outdo the UK Government in pathetic, useless, muddled, jumbled, and trying to destroy itself in continuous infighting - a government divided against itself cannot stand. Not as bad as the UK Government but getting ever closer - the cliff edge approaches.

Getting the support of ScoMo was the kiss of death.


Lincoln's House Divided Speech
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln's_House_Divided_Speech

A house divided against itself, cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free. I do not expect the Union to be dissolved — I do not expect the house to fall — but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing or all the other. Either the opponents of slavery will arrest the further spread of it, and place it where the public mind shall rest in the belief that it is in the course of ultimate extinction; or its advocates will push it forward, till it shall become lawful in all the States, old as well as new — North as well as South.

 

[SirRumpole]

It does seem that the Aussie Government is trying to outdo the UK Government in pathetic, useless, muddled, jumbled, and trying to destroy itself in continuous infighting - a government divided against itself cannot stand. Not as bad as the UK Government but getting ever closer - the cliff edge approaches.

The coup was a stupid and ideological assassination by stupid ideological people.

 

[sptrawler]

It would appear by the post's, most are pro Labor, the next election should be a foregone conclusion.
This an investment forum and most appear to lean toward Labor, that would indicate the Libs have no hope.
Or this forum is out of touch, interesting times.

 

[PZ99]

It would appear by the post's, most are pro Labor, the next election should be a foregone conclusion.
This an investment forum and most appear to lean toward Labor, that would indicate the Libs have no hope.
Or this forum is out of touch, interesting times.

Funny you should say that.
When the franking credit debate was on I only saw it here, HC and Whirlpool.
No where else either knew or cared.

 

[explod]

In my view Dutton was a blank cannon fire to try and make the final outcome appear civilised.

With the election not far away it was a desperate but clever plan. However in the end they are collectively empty and on the nose to the electorate IMHO

 

[sptrawler]

Funny you should say that.
When the franking credit debate was on I only saw it here, HC and Whirlpool.
No where else either knew or cared.

Like I said, interesting times, because many agree with the Labor concept.

 

[So_Cynical]

Scomo kind of comes out of this debacle as a clean skin, electorally i dont think it hurts him much, the LNP is a different story - has to hurt them collectively, Scomo has maybe 12 months to turn the ship around...lets see.

 

[Smurf1976]

Like I said, interesting times, because many agree with the Labor concept.

I'm not so much in favour of Labor as I am against the Liberals at this point.

To me it's just too blatant that the Liberals are governing for the benefit of a select few and not the majority. Plus I'm truly fed up with the standard routine:

Bash those legitimately receiving welfare whilst presiding over stagnant wages and workforce casualisation.

Remind us they stopped asylum seekers whilst running record rates of immigration.

Doing nothing about housing affordability for the young whilst handing out welfare to the middle class.

And so on. Same pattern with everything and as someone who's always rejected elitism it seriously grates.

Oh for the days of Hawke / Keating and their Liberal opponents who actually engaged in serious debate about stuff that mattered. Both sides were of a much higher standard a generation ago. Whilst I perceive Labor to be less bad that doesn't mean I'm saying they're good or that I've got any real confidence in them. My expectation is they'll fix something but not most things.

 

[Smurf1976]

Funny you should say that.
When the franking credit debate was on I only saw it here, HC and Whirlpool.
No where else either knew or cared.

That's the one thing which, if the Liberals were clever enough, might get them back some votes so long as they focus on the lower income losers from Labor's plan not the higher income lowers.

 

[Tisme]

To me, Scott is like that 2 week aunty visitor who comes to Mum's home and sets about hijacking the table conversation, talking endlessly about her unique insight into all things, including fantastic infarcations about the family history.