The Science Thread

[basilio]

James Lovelock has died at 103. He was a brilliant scientist and not afraid to develop whole new ways of seeing the world.
At 100 years of age he gave an interview with The Economist on how humanity could survive global warming.

 

[SirRumpole]

Silly French sausage.

French scientist owns up after star photo revealed to be spicy sausage

A director at France's Atomic Energy Commission apologises after his 'distant star' tweet turns out to be a slice of chorizo.

www.abc.net.au

 

[wayneL]

Just a little snippet from our old friend Karl Popper:

It brings into sharp focus a recent discussion on the scientific method on a different thread. One very important component of that seems to have been neglected of late, especially by those "following the science"; namely, falsification.

FYI

 

[wayneL]

The replication crisis:

fOlLoW tHe ScIeNcE

 

[SirRumpole]

The replication crisis:

fOlLoW tHe ScIeNcE

Part of the Scientific process is to continually re-examine the work of others to detect errors and fraud.

The detection process has worked, so yes you can trust the science.

 

[wayneL]

Part of the Scientific process is to continually re-examine the work of others to detect errors and fraud.

The detection process has worked, so yes you can trust the science.

Quite so.

But can we trust "The Science" as presented to an obviously gullible, government, bureaucracy, media, and ultimately the public?

I'm people invoke the "follow the science" mantra, it is invariably invoked as some sort of gospel. We saw this with the giant fraud be covered pandemic and MRNA injekshuns.

Reset and all sorts of other fields, including..... climate change.

Test everything my friends, believe nothing, especially if governments are pushing it.

 

[SirRumpole]

The world's most important numerical algorithm.

How the Fast Fourier transform allowed us to detect nuclear tests, and other things.

 

[basilio]

Anyone interested in the worlds highest jumping robot ?

A robot that can jump 31 metres high . Higher than a ten story building. Bit like the the Superman of robots. Clever and fascinating.

 

[wayneL]

2022:

 

[Knobby22]

 

[wayneL]

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I pink thing should have been Anthony "I am the science"Fauci.

You know, the bloke that lied to us all and got everything wrong.

 

[basilio]

I pink thing should have been Anthony "I am the science"Fauci.

You know, the bloke that lied to us all and got everything wrong.

You really do need some professional help don't you Wayne ?

Please, for your own sake, get a grip on yourself and stop just making up poisonous rubbish that has as much relevance to reality as a George 'Psycho' Santos CV.

 

[SirRumpole]

You really do need some professional help don't you Wayne ?

Please, for your own sake, get a grip on yourself and stop just making up poisonous rubbish that has as much relevance to reality as a George 'Psycho' Santos CV.

Feeding the troll bas ?

 

[wayneL]

So you guys go straight for the ad hom before doing your due diligence?

Just do some googling before take the L, guys.

 

[SirRumpole]

Just do some googling before take the L, guys.

We do wayne, but most of the stuff we find doesn't support your pre-conceived opinions, so you wouldn't be interested.

 

[wayneL]

That's not an argument, just slightly more subtle ad hom.

L

 

[wayneL]

Outright lie, or just plain wrong. If plain wrong, why?

 

[Knobby22]

Outright lie, or just plain wrong. If plain wrong, why?

The original vaccine was highly effective in most people stopping you catching it. This is because the original virus was not fully adapted to humans, in fact your dog could catch it.

As the virus evolved it spread more easily as it had different ways of entering the human body and the vaccine became less effective in stopping you catch it but still effective in preventing getting very sick.

The latest versions of the virus are less damaging as they concentrate mainly on the upper respiratory tract like normal colds and are much less likely to kill you however the vaccines have not kept up so now offer little protection.

This is all proven with hospital figures where, especially with Delta and the previous virus forms, most of the deaths were unvaccinated people. The USA and UK in particular drive this home.
As I have said before my sister saw this in action in Australia but since we had lockdowns we didn't have massive spreads of the earlier viruses.

 

[mullokintyre]

The original vaccine was highly effective in most people stopping you catching it. This is because the original virus was not fully adapted to humans, in fact your dog could catch it.

As the virus evolved it spread more easily as it had different ways of entering the human body and the vaccine became less effective in stopping you catch it but still effective in preventing getting very sick.

The layest versions of the virus are less damaging as they concentrate mainly on the upper respiratory tract like normal colds and are much less likely to kill you however the vaccines have not kept up so now offer little protection.

This is all proven with hospital figures where, especially with Delta and the previous virus forms, most of the deaths were unvaccinated people. The USA and UK in particular drive this home.
As I have said before my sister saw this in action in Australia but since we had lockdowns we didn't have massive spreads of the earlier viruses.

Everything you said is true, however, from the outset, the authorities had no idea as to how the virus would evolve.
The lockdowns, the mandated vaccinations, were against a virus that you have said yourself was not yet fully adapted to humans.
Now that it has, all of those previous responses have gone out the window.
From a purely scientific perspective, that makes little sense, unless you subscribe to the concept of go overboard just in case.
The question needs to be asked and debated:
Were
(a) these methods justified based on what the medical folk knew or did not know at the time?
(b) Given what they know now, were they justified then, and are they justified today?
(c) is the price paid worth it?
It is very difficult to have these debates because most people merely label the opposite with a perjorative label and sit back smugly saying I won that argument.
To whit, see the tweet from a Health professor from UNI NSW sociology Professor.
No need to debate the Barrington declaration when you can label them filth



Mick

 

[wayneL]

The jab was never any good at stopping transmission of anything, original or not.

It never worked. That was all camel dung.