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The markets are Chaos...and Order

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Introduction
I wanted to write something for the forum – actually I wanted to use the forum members for a sounding board to see where I need to tighten up the text or explain things better before I use it somewhere else. It might appear as an article somewhere, or if I can finagle a sabbatical I might write a book with it.

You’ll note this isn’t in the beginner’s section, but I don’t mind beginners looking at it and commenting. I’m hoping that some of the experienced characters around here who get what I am talking about might like to challenge, add to or otherwise comment. I’m not sure how much time I will have to answer questions in this thread but will do my best. What I’m hoping to share with you is an extended epiphany that I had a few years ago in relation to the market, which has governed my investment styles since that time.

A word of warning however… this is going to get complex pretty damn quick before it gets easier and before you get to the piece I write on application I’d like you to understand the concepts I’ve spoken about around economic cycles. That information will be a useful starting point before I get to the really meaty stuff. If you haven’t read my newbie thread and the section on economic cycles you can find it in my signature.

Finally I will be breaking this into several parts, because the amount of time I can devote to this is not exhaustive and will write it a piece at a time, when I can – expect long delays. I’ll be pausing for flames, na-uhs, grammer nazis (see what I did there :) ), the peanut gallery and anyone that wants to contribute after each part and really hope to stimulate some interesting discussion. My thanks to Joe who agreed to put a sticky on this as well.

The Markets are Chaotic – Part I
The older I get the more I realize exactly how chaotic the financial markets are, not because we are currently experiencing some volatility in world markets; more because of what kind of behaviour it exhibits both in macro and aggregate scales as well as micro and individual scales. Behaviour that is unmistakably chaotic, if you know what to look for. The fact that you can see it across both large and small applications is one of the signs that indeed the market corresponds to chaotic principles. Hopefully you will join me on this journey of discovery and by the time we get to the end of this, you’ll know three important things, what chaos means for the market, why I applied it to the way I invest personally and how you can apply it as well.

Chaos doesn’t mean what you might think. When I talk to a lot of my peers in the financial services industry, their eye’s glaze over because chaos is a fundamentally different field of mathematics than what they learnt to become financial planners or stockbrokers or accountants or analysts or whatever. When you become a financial adviser you learn to read boring maths really well…balance sheets, profit and loss, cash flow statements, things like that. I’m not saying that you don’t need to know those things, because it’s important for every financial adviser to understand the drivers and influencers behind a good business as opposed to bad one.

A good financial adviser might also learn some probability and how to apply it, standard deviation, variance, that sort of thing. Ultimately however this kind of math hasn’t progressed beyond Newtonian math, which is fundamentally flawed when dealing with chaos. It’s important to still know these things though because good fundamental analysis ultimately operates inside of a framework that is governed by chaos. I know that might be a challenging statement for some, but economics doesn’t exist independently of chaos. It’s not “special” and magically separate; chaos (and the corresponding order that emerges from it) permeates everything.

The kind of math associated with fundamental analysis however does tend to make the mind think in terms of duality. Profit and loss, assets and liabilities, top-down, bottom-up, things like this tend to train the mind that the market is very two dimensional in nature. Most advisers unconsciously realise that there are multiple dimensions, our relationships to markets independent of our own for example, with varying degrees of correlation, but then always seem to flounder and for some reason say it’s “just economics”, and economics my friends is very firmly rooted in Newtonian math.

Just what the hell is Newtonian math?
Sir Isaac Newton’s development of calculus and the laws of classical mechanics began in the 17th century, where it became accepted dogma. It gave scientists and mathematicians tools to determine the dynamics of bodies by simple equations. How great was that! If you only knew what the simple equation was that governed a particular action, if you knew the starting position or initial set of circumstances, you could predict the future. Newtonian math was massively useful in all manner of mechanical applications. This is the math that spawned the industrial revolution. With this math you could design a machine and know that it would endlessly replicate the same action in a repeatable and predictable way.

Newtonian math evolved the concept of Determinism, namely the belief that the past completely determines the future. Problems arose for the Determinists towards the end of the 1800’s when some very difficult equations (non-linear differentials) proved impossible to solve with Newtonian Math and a whole new branch of mathematics emerged, which would ultimately become what we know of today as Chaos.

Can you see where I am going with this? As investors into the financial markets we attempt to predict the future every day, based on some simple equations that try and identify the dynamics of the market. These equations might be fundamentally orientated; that X share, after subjecting it to a myriad of financial modelling has an intrinsic value of $ and is therefore cheap or expensive. We then take a position based on our calculated intrinsic value and attempt to predict the future. If we are technical analysts, we use things like Standard Deviation, Moving Averages, Oscillators and Volume and attempt to use the past price and volume data to predict the future.

We might do this with varying degrees of success, depending upon how much money we have, what the equations we use are; what risk minimisation techniques we use, what positional sizing we employ and how carefully we conduct our money management. Every so often however, chaos comes along and kicks our carefully constructed sandcastle of equations and strategies in our face, and we are left trying to pick up the pieces and wonder what we did wrong, why didn’t it work? It’s as if the machine threw a cog and what was once almost certain, becomes undeniably uncertain, because of one of the fundamental principles behind chaos.

We go searching for more data, we seek to validate our strategies with extensive testing and modelling and say things like "It's not statistically relevent until you've done it a few thousand times and come up with a positive result". We argue, we sometimes share what works with others, and keep closely guarded secrets close to our chests.

Good traders and investors learn to shrug chaos off, they say things like “It doesn’t matter if you are wrong, just how long you stay wrong for.” Or “The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent”. If they have protected their investments in the armour of money management, positional sizing models, trailing stop losses and the like these knights can take a hit and keep on moving through the chaos of constant battle in the quest for alpha returns.

These traders simply deal with chaos by acknowledging that it exists, that they cannot do anything about it beyond taking it on the armoured chin and moving on to the next opportunity to test their mettle in battle. What if I told you however that there are ways to make chaos work for you rather than against you. That chaos has principles and that if you are aware of what these principles are and how you can apply them to your personal trading you can use them to add another layer of armour.

Part II – Principles of chaos – coming soon
 
What two hundred views and no comments? You guys and girls aren't trying. I had more planned for this evening but responded to a newbie private message...so this is all you get for now.

Principles of Chaos – Part I
If you look back at the previous post, Newtonian math gave rise to Determinism. The ability to perfectly predict the events in the future, based on prior conditions. If you understand the math behind leverage, know the weight of the object that you need to move, you can work out with certainty the amount of force that will be required to shift the weight. You can determine the cause (the lever) and the effect (moving the object). You can repeat the experiment a thousand times and still come up with the same amount of force required every time. This is the lure of Determinism, cause and effect are clearly visible.

Chaos at it’s essence however is indeterminism. Indeterminism is the concept that certain events are not caused deterministically by prior events. This is like saying that the amount of force required to move the object will vary, so you can see why Determinism was accepted dogma for centuries. Notice the wording however, certain events are not caused deterministically.

What are these certain events?
In short, chaos embodies three important principles:

• extreme sensitivity to initial conditions
• cause and effect are not proportional (!)
• nonlinearity

Extreme sensitivity to initial conditions in it’s simplest sense is the Butterfly effect coined by Edward Lorenz. It was he that coined the phrase, “If a butterfly flaps it’s wings in South America will it affect the weather in Central Park?”. Lorenz was a Meteorologist and Mathematician who set out to construct a mathematical model of weather. He was attempting to build a set of differential equations that represented changes in temperature, pressure, wind velocity etc. He ended up with a model containing a set of 12 differential equations.

In 1961, Lorenz wanted to re-examine a set of data coming from his model. Instead of restarting the entire data set, he decided to save time and restart the set from somewhere in the middle. Using data printouts, he input the conditions at some point of the previous set, and re-started the model calculation. What he found was very unusual and unexpected.

The data from the second set should have exactly matched the data from the first set. The conditions were the same, the equations (which were deterministic) were the same for both runs. While they matched at first, the data eventually began to diverge dramatically ”” the second set losing all resemblance to the first within a few "model" months. Initially he thought the problem was his equipment but he eventually discovered what caused the divergence between the two sets of data. In the second set of calculations he’d only entered 3 digits, whilst the computer memory contained six digits. This tiny alteration exhibited the phenomenon known as sensitive dependence on initial conditions, the first principle.

Why then did the results vary so much? A small change in a deterministic model should have resulted in a small change to the outcome. Lorenz’s model exhibited wildly different outcomes that were not proportional to the tiny change, the second principle. The answer is also that the equations used in the model were nonlinear equations, the third principle.

Ok now that we’ve had a history lesson what does that mean for the market?We’ve identified the three principles behind chaotic systems. Extreme sensitivity, non-proportional cause and effect and non-linearity. Lets start with the extreme sensitivity and initial conditions.... NEXT POST
 
Been too busy chatting to Nicholas Taleb.
He's helping me decipher the content in the thread.
 
Very interesting thread Sir Osisofliver.

From my limited understanding it would be very difficult to use this theory as a predictive / market timing tool. Would it be better to use the portfolio management techniques you refered to in your first post to take advantage of chaos?

Is you definition is chaos any movement away from the underlying value of the financial instrument, boom or bust?
 
My view is that market is not deterministic in the Newtonian sense, but probably more fuzzy logic than chaos.

Will let you have the stage and finish your posts...
 

Every so often however, chaos comes along and kicks our carefully constructed sandcastle of equations and strategies in our face, and we are left trying to pick up the pieces and wonder what we did wrong, why didn’t it work? It’s as if the machine threw a cog and what was once almost certain, becomes undeniably uncertain, because of one of the fundamental principles behind chaos.



I have this "sand in my face" problem every night trying to trade forex:rolleyes::)





What if I told you however that there are ways to make chaos work for you rather than against you. That chaos has principles and that if you are aware of what these principles are and how you can apply them to your personal trading you can use them to add another layer of armour.



You have my undivided attention :D

Only just noticed the thread Sir O, Looking forward to the updates.
 
Been too busy chatting to Nicholas Taleb.
He's helping me decipher the content in the thread.

So that's one interested but confused?

Very interesting thread Sir Osisofliver.

From my limited understanding it would be very difficult to use this theory as a predictive / market timing tool. Would it be better to use the portfolio management techniques you refered to in your first post to take advantage of chaos?

Is you definition is chaos any movement away from the underlying value of the financial instrument, boom or bust?

One interested tell me how to apply it now. :) Robusta we're getting there.

My view is that market is not deterministic in the Newtonian sense, but probably more fuzzy logic than chaos.

Will let you have the stage and finish your posts...

One opposing theory !YAY! from SKC my new favourite poster, (the piece from last night was going to include some information on Probabilistic Causation - I might be able to get to that today).

I turned off after 2 paragraphs....i like to keep the simple, simple.

One switch off - Thanks for the feedback Cynical - may I ask you to expand on why? Too wordy, to technical, too much history?

I have this "sand in my face" problem every night trying to trade forex:rolleyes::)

You have my undivided attention :D

Only just noticed the thread Sir O, Looking forward to the updates.

One interested.

Thank-you all for the feedback, I'll keep plugging away.

Cheers

Sir O
 
Sir O I'm reading with keen interest.

I'm expecting that you'll unveil the holy grail of wealth creation, a new revelation which will unlock the mystery of market behaviour and will inspire a new school of thought for the investment community.

Seriously though, keep it up, I'm learning from and enjoying what you're posting here.
 
Dude, fear and greed drive the market, don't over complicate it :)

Cool...can you tell me how they drive the market? (In a way that I can make money from it).

Sir O I'm reading with keen interest.

I'm expecting that you'll unveil the holy grail of wealth creation, a new revelation which will unlock the mystery of market behaviour and will inspire a new school of thought for the investment community.

Seriously though, keep it up, I'm learning from and enjoying what you're posting here.

LOl @ Junior - I'm not aiming for a Nobel Prize for economics here Junior. I am hoping to engage and stimulate some interesting debate and discussion.

Cheers
Sir O
 
CHAOS IS SEASONAL
Certain events appear to occur in an irregular sequence of
nonrepeating patterns. Such a picture, which corresponds to
the scientific notion of chaos, may seem to be useless in preparing
for the future. But chaos in the stock market, as in
business and many other areas, appears to be seasonal.

In particular, chaos is associated with periods of stagnation.

Once a trend enters a high-growth season, fluctuations become
less significant. Moreover, rapid-change seasons
alternate with stagnating seasons, implying that chaos eventually
leads to order, and vice versa.

There is symmetry in this swing
from chaos to order and back, which can be utilized in making
investment decisions.

In scientific terminology, chaos is the name given to a set
of on-going fluctuations that never reproduce in an identical
manner. It was first observed mathematically when growth
functions were put in a discrete form.

Because populations
are made up of discrete entities, a continuous mathematical
function offers only an approximate model for the real situation.
Putting mathematics in a discrete form also became
necessary by the need to use computers, which treat information
in bits and pieces, rather than as continuous variables.

Benoit Mandelbrot and other chaos scientists have argued
that equilibrium and orderly growth are only the tip of the
iceberg, whereas the richness of our world comes from the
noisy, apparently random behavior encountered in the unpredictable
patterns of currency movements and market reactions.

In his best-selling book Chaos, James Gleick explains
that chaos fans are not interested in steady-growth processes. They concentrate on the fluctuations that become
prominent whenever the growth rate drops to zero.
Through
fractal structures (popularized via beautiful computergenerated
pictures),* chaos scientists have succeeded in
detecting some order in randomness. They want to believe
that their theory contains all one needs to know about
markets.

But practicing professionals remain skeptical.
Despite high expectations, chaos studies have proven of
small added value in predicting the future. I heard
Mandelbrot himself admit in public that having succeeded in
modeling the chaotic patterns seen in stock-market indices
did not bring him any closer to becoming rich.

The approach I adopt in this book is to maintain maximum
generality by allowing both equilibrium and chaotic situations.


The big picture that emerges from this method is at
times dominated by orderly S-shaped growth steps and well defined
roles for the competitors, and at other times by erratic
large-amplitude fluctuations characteristic of chaos.


CHAOTIC FLUCTUATIONS characterize the BEGINNINGS and ENDS for VERY GOOD REASONS and are a TELL TALE SIGN==>

"A naive but illuminating model for the alternation between
order and chaos is the image of an elderly person who with a
shaking hand tries to draw an S-shaped curve.

While drawing the flat early part of the curve, his trembling produces visible
jagged peaks and troughs, but during the sharp upward move
the fluctuations from the trembling become masked by the
well-pronounced trend. For me, as an experimental physicist,
the strongest evidence comes from pictures of nonmanipulated
historical data" Theodore Modis, Ph.D.


Important is HOW to MEASURE and WHAT TO MEASURE

Measure wrong and it can all looks like Chaos , When that is really but a small part of what matters.

Quotes above are from Theodore Modis ==> http://www.growth-dynamics.com/

Also good is http://www.olsen.ch/key_insights/four_market_properties/

etc

esp good on Intrinsic time and it importance
Intrinsic time is not physical time: in physical time, price changes are computed from one day to the next or one hour to the next. In intrinsic time, we compute price changes from one change of direction of the price to next directional change.

A direction change occurs, as soon as the price has reverted from its previous extreme by a specific threshold, say 1% or 0.1%. Intrinsic time is event based (the event is the direction change). Intrinsic time is effective, because it focuses on periods of action and discards phases when nothing happens in markets.

When important news events occur, such as at the time of the release of US Non Farm Payrolls, the price action is frequently erratic. The five minutes after Non Farm Payroll numbers are not normal five minutes, but can be very eventful and need to be a analyzed as such. If we use intrinsic time, we discover distinct statistical properties that make markets predictable in statistical terms.

These Three Videos
http://enantiodromian.blogspot.com/2011/02/benoit-mandelbrot-and-richard-olsen.html

Motorway
 

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So that's one interested but confused?

Sir O

No not at all.

After years of trading.
This is my strategy and answer to trading the chaos shown in markets.
We attempt to trade
With a trend
Or
Reversion to a mean
Or
Catching an outlier

We can't tell when a trend will occur or how long it will continue let alone it's course.( erratic, or orderly.
What is the mean?
What are the signs of an outlier possibly occurring

We don't know definitively
All we can do is place ourselves in front of setups we believe to be precursors to any of the above.
All the while putting in place protection as best we can for the unknown outlier against us or the many times our setups don't pan out.
 
Introduction
I wanted to write something for the forum – actually I wanted to use the forum members for a sounding board to see where I need to tighten up the text or explain things better before I use it somewhere else.
Hi. I am a keen learner and consider many interpretations of market states to be a perspective held by one observer, many observers, the majority of observers but not all of the observers due to, as motorway pointed out, duration and as I have experienced, belief. A period of interpreted chaos observed on a one minute period chart is not seen on a weekly period chart so in the mind of the weekly observer he sees the market in order.

Is it the end of a trend (non-linearity) on a daily chart if the price range gets comparatively wider and new highs are not being made? Well that is the conundrum the participants are discussing (maybe arguing :p:) and eventually (duration again) the majority of money will decide on trend continuation or a new trend established the other way.

Can a chart define chaos?
 
OK so from a couple of PM's I'm seeing that people don't necessarily want a history or mathematics lesson, but would rather want to know how to apply what I'm talking about.

Don't want to know how I arrived at my conclusions, rather just how to apply chaotic principles in their trading. It rubs against my anal rententive soul to simply show something without explanation and I'll use a simple example...

People think that they know how to apply a stochatic oscillator.

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Simply looking at the above image gives the impression that you can use the oscillator to give you a buy and a sell signal. Due to a lack of understanding of the math behind the indicator, this is a false impression. Because the math limits the price action with a 1-100 range and the price action has no mathematical limitation imposed upon it. It's amazing the number of people I've come across who use that indicator that do not appreciate or understand this.

Therefore I've decided to sketch out for you in broad (and in some bits not so broad)strokes what I was planning on doing and you can tell me if you want it or not. BUT - don't bitch and whine if you haven't got a carefully constructed framework to lead you to the same conclusions that I drew.

The next segments I was going to write were along the lines of attempting to prove the chaotic model as it applies to the Market. This has however been done before, I'm only treading on old ground here, (See motorways post for example and the excellent comments from Theodore Modis - see also the works of Benoit Mandlebrot and the application to the financial market). This is not an area without academic controversy - it is not a "given" that the market is chaotic - but may be exhibiting things that look like chaos Eg SKC's comment about fuzzy logic. Some of this is due to the repetition that is exhibited by the market - but self replication is an inherent characteristic of chaos. Just go look at the Mandlebrot set to see the infinite repetition that occurs in both macro and micro scales. Exhibiting the same patterns in Macro and Micro scale is going to be highly important.

Let's assume however that my premise that the market is chaotic is meaningful and move forward. I know it's a huge assumption but we'll never move forward if we can't accept at least provisionally that it's a possibility and listen with an open mind. The proof is in the application after all and what we are trying to do here is increase our probability of success. It is the shield that we add to the armour of our other techniques of risk and money management.

Chaos gives rise to order, and I wanted to demonstrate some of the order that lies within the chaotic structure of the market. - This is seen most simply in the boom and bust cycles of our market as a large scale or macro application. (This is why I wanted people to read the pieces in the newbie thread about economic cycles - they are an expression of the macro scale of chaotic order in the market - yet rooted within a fundamental/market awareness type of approach rather than purely technical in nature). I would subtley start discussing the waveform (or the pattern of the broader boom bust cycle) of the various drivers within the macro scale - Interest rates, unemployment etc at this stage (and this will also be really important later on).

This would lead me to discuss the macro applications of chaos that Motorway's post indicates. That Chaos is at its most visible at end points, and the kinds of things that we can do to ensure that macro Chaos works for us. These expressions of macro chaos are fantastic opportunities for wealth creation, especially because there are instruments especially designed for us to make money out of these occurances.

I was going to include a piece here on portfolio construction - because this window of opportunity gives the investor the ability to purchase quality assets at much reduced prices (and high dividend yields) that allow the portfolio to be carried through the smaller and more chaotic shorter term expressions, whilst waiting for the larger pattern to emerge. (I'd draw comparisons about what we are seeing now for instance being a shorter-term expression of chaos within the larger pattern and compare chart patterns with what we saw after 1987 stock market correction).

Included within this section is a mathematics peer reviewed article - which boils down to..... the larger the data sample set, the more accurate chaotic modelling techniques become and demonstrate this with with the use of Fibonnacci Sequences, Fractal Geometry and Elliott Wave analysis, as three purely technical methods of assessing the macro chaotic structure...what some of us do already. There would be a small aside here when discussing the application of Fibbonacci, that these ratio's have been found within Mandlebrot's set, and discussing the importance of irrational numbers like Fibonacci and Pi when discussing growth patterns.

I'd talk about how this expression is also visible in fundamental techniques, giving tools about how to use yield curves, aggregate sector yields and comparatives to past cycles or expressions. This then is our shield for our knight on the macro scale - a combination of technical and fundamental techniques (because you always look for multiple conformation when dealing with chaos) that can allow you to objectively analyse the chaotic expression and take advantage of it on a macro scale.

We would then get to talk about micro applications - Where things really get fuzzy and hard to understand. Wysiwyg made an excellent and pertinent comment that chaos is in the eye of the observer...and over what time period you happen to be observing. Time is therefore a critical component of chaos. Taking a simple moving average smooths out the chaotic effects that are seen in trading price action on a shorter time scale. You look at a daily chart and overlay a weekly chart and you can see the chaotic influences in shorter term timescales.

What we then need to identify on whatever timescale you are working onto increase our probability of success - in addition to the other trading necessities of positional sizing, money management and risk management techniques (which I would cover off - just like I would have spoken about portfolio management) is the following: -

1) component waveforms that exist in the price action - As you can see this is going to be highly dependent upon whatever stock or instruments you are looking at. Some will have more wave form components than others (or at least more that are easily identifiable) Eg Mining company exposed to a single commodity is going to have the underlying commodity price wave form - but what other component wave forms can you see? Exchange rates? General market direction waveform? etc etc.

2) Why do I want the waveforms? because this will assist in identifying the phase shifts (the most visible forms of chaos on the shorter term time scale) that occur within the price action. When you have identified those wave forms with the highest Probabilistic Causation, the points where those phase shifts overlay in aggregate react the same way that the broader market correction does. (just like the waveforms that exist in the macro scale when we look at the entire market - see I told you that the same patterns in macro and micro were important indicators of chaos).

With this in mind, the application to micro principles can guide us into looking at stocks or instruments that give us a higher probability of success when combined with other methods, this then is the shield our knight carries around. It doesn't always stop us getting bashed but it does increase our probability of success (at least in my experience and when it's done right - by a statistically significant amount).

@ Tech I know you asked me in my newbie thread why I spend so much time paper trading (because you thought it was madness) and I told you that some of things I was doing mixed fundamental data with technical. The above is a bit more detailed than the answer I gave at that time. Can you appreciate why it might take me nine months of system testing to validate a strategy which takes advantage of chaotic principles on shorter term time scales? I'm trying to identify and map all the waveforms that influence whatever instrument I'm analysing to increase my probability of success.

Now I've been doing this for a while so I have some ground rules which have evolved through plenty of hard work...which unfortunately if I am going to turn this into a book, training course, lecture series or something in the future I will be keeping to myself. Feel free to discuss what these ground rules might be, what underlying instruments might be the best, how you might apply this to an instrument I've never looked at :) but I won't confirm or deny any of the rules I've established.

Cheers (I need a drink now)

Sir O
 
Bah! I stuffed up the attachment of the Stochastic Oscillator. Would one of you sterling mods fix that?

Cheers

Sir O

Hi Sir O,

It's saying that the attachment is invalid. Can you try reposting the entire post, including the attachment, and I'll clean up afterwards.
 
Hey Sir O,

Are your thoughts somewhere along the line of The (Mis)Behaviour of Markets: A Fractal View of Risk, Ruin and Reward by Mandelbrot, its awhile since I read it but had the same sort of flavour.

Your thoughts are intersting but I'm not sure how I would apply it but reading in anticipation.

suhm
 
@ suhm

It is almost required reading ;)

Ah well that's the rub isn't it? I know how to apply it to a couple of instruments and I know that it increases the consistency of the system I have designed.

I have some rules I have developed around it but I am smart enough to know that for it to apply to something new requires a significant depth of knowledge in the underlying instrument.

Cheers

Sir O
 
Okay guys and girls help me out here.

What would you do?

1 Keep it to yourself until you can buy a small country.

2 Set up a company, hire the talent I don't have, ( coz I will need a computer genius to transform it into an easily understood visually orientated system) and then spend the rest of my days finding ways to apply it and sell it to the world.

3 write a book or course and charge a mint in the methodology ( but not reveal the system I built)

4 something else?

Cheers

Sir O
 
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