The lunatic left

[Garpal Gumnut]

Chaos reigns on the right and left.

gg

 

[IFocus]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Trump will be the only President to leave office with less wealth.
Also, I think he's the only President not to take a paycheck, they get donated.

Trump wont release his tax returns so no one knows however he has used his own properties for government business and anyone wanting to curry flavor stays at his hotels / golf resorts which I believe is unprecedented.

We will have to wait for the end of his term (when ever that happens) to find out what laws he has broken in regards to finance as the various state prosecutors go after him.

 

[IFocus]

So trump is a dictator then who has to bypass the house and force troops into democrat run areas to run them properly?
Remember how that panned out before?

Are you just throwing words up or did you actually check to see what was done?

You have a warped view of leadership. Democrat states are run by democrats. The same ones that refused help.
The ones that accepted were quickly resolved.
Pretty simple huh..

Mo simple point and I know its annoying ....but the point

" Make America Great Again"

.....and hasn't that gone well! 180,000 dead, economy in crisis, widespread rioting and violence and Trumps plan is.............what.

 

[wayneL]

Mo simple point and I know its annoying ....but the point

" Make America Great Again"

.....and hasn't that gone well! 180,000 dead, economy in crisis, widespread rioting and violence and Trumps plan is.............what.

Perhaps you should read his manifesto

But in general, it's to try to stop the left further destroying their country. In case you hadn't noticed, it's the the left, where they have control, totally smashing everything up.

 

[moXJO]

Covid.

US is number 1 in the world for testing if you ignore China's bs stats.
But you wouldn't know the way you lot post.
Its 11th in total deaths.

A third of all deaths occurred in just 3 democrat run states.

As of Sunday, April 26, states with Republican governors have experienced 57.53 coronavirus deaths per million of population, states with Democratic governors have 179.74 deaths per million of population. Even excluding the state of New York as an extreme outlier, states with Democratic governors have 138.58 deaths per million from coronavirus, still over twice as many coronavirus deaths per million as deaths in states with Republican governors.[1]

So here's the thing:
Democrats have consistently hamstrung Trump all the way through the president’s term in office with outright lies. They are now risking lives through allowing riots and ignoring coronavirus.
And I see zero scrutiny on democrats and a bunch of outright lies or half truths posted up about Trump.

If it were personal opinion on Trump (eg: corrupt, cr@p, dumb) I could care less. When its this weird agenda people seem to love to use, then it needs to be pulled up a bit.

 

[bellenuit]

Its 11th in total deaths.

11th per capita. 1st in total deaths.

 

[IFocus]

So I guess NY and CA are leading in deaths having higher populations and greater movement?

When Trump failed to meet with the leading health professorial in the country for months in the middle of a pandemic that's OK right?

Whats the plan?

And the total deaths thing is straight out of Trumps play book, as Bellenuit points out deaths per capita they are killing it literally.

 

[IFocus]

Try again

So I guess NY and CA are leading in deaths having higher populations and greater movement?

When Trump failed to meet with the leading health professional in the country for months in the middle of a pandemic that's OK right?

Whats the plan?

And the total deaths thing is straight out of Trumps play book, as Bellenuit points out deaths per capita they are killing it literally.

The riots are a social issue and Trump tried to exploit politically by sending in unidentified Agents to take people of the streets which failed spectacularly.

Trump sows divisions that's not leadership, trump has no plans or policy to resolve to problems which wont just go away like the virus is suppose to.

 

[bellenuit]

A third of all deaths occurred in just 3 democrat run states.

The thing is the Democrat controlled states were hit earlier on. New York had a huge infection rate in a particular suburb (can't recall the name, sorry) when it was just becoming understood that it was not just another flu, but a pandemic and it quickly spread from there. They fought COVID with just minimal assistance from the Fed. Trump was still saying it would vanish in a few days and his son in law was selling protective equipment and ventilators to large companies so that they could get their cut rather than ensuring it got to that state asap. Testing was abysmal. COVID was a federal responsibility and Trump just washed his hands of it. He is even on record saying to his staff not to take phone calls from a particular lady governor of a Democrat state, because she wasn't a vocal supporter of his.

NY made some mistakes in the beginning as the virus and stopping its spread was something no one had experience in. But they took strong action, being derided every step of the way by Trump with his calls to "liberate" Democratic controlled states and his constant downplaying of the seriousness of the virus. But they got it under control.

Here is a graph of deaths being recorded in NY State up to the present.

Here is the same for Texas.

The jumping up and down on the Texas chart is due to poor weekend reporting, but the weekly average seems to be about 200 coming down to 175. New York on the other hand has a negligible daily rate. Although Texas has a 29m population vs New York 19.4m, the disparity in current death rates is huge. Look at Florida which has, at 21.4m, a similar population to NY State.

Though slowly coming down, their rates are still on average way above 100 per day.

And what is obvious looking at the 3 graphs is that the NY spike was early on in the pademinic, when little was know about it, supplies were scarce and Fed pronouncements were counterproductive. Additionally NY was just coming out of Winter and we know cold is a contributing factor to its spread. Texas and Florida have much milder climates.

But now, months later with all the knowledge available and many supply constraints removed (there are no supply constraints at all according to Trump, but we know that is a lie), Texas and Florida are bumbling their way though the pandemic. Not just New York, but most developed countries have it under control, though minor outbreaks are still occurring.

 

[moXJO]

So I guess NY and CA are leading in deaths having higher populations and greater movement?

When Trump failed to meet with the leading health professorial in the country for months in the middle of a pandemic that's OK right?

Whats the plan?

And the total deaths thing is straight out of Trumps play book, as Bellenuit points out deaths per capita they are killing it literally.

Deaths per million is what I meant. And its not a dodgy measurement or "out of Trumps playbook". Its a legitimate stat. Or do we ignore stats in the pursuit of tearing someone down?

Victoria is run by one of the more left leaning states
513 or so deaths compared to the next highest nsw at 52.

Trump refused to meet, need a link. If its just a bunch of plebs instead of officials wanting to put two bits in. Then it doesn't really count.

Did you look at the official advice on coronavirus or expect me to drag it out?

 

[moXJO]

The thing is the Democrat controlled states were hit earlier on. New York had a huge infection rate in a particular suburb (can't recall the name, sorry) when it was just becoming understood that it was not just another flu, but a pandemic and it quickly spread from there. They fought COVID with just minimal assistance from the Fed. Trump was still saying it would vanish in a few days and his son in law was selling protective equipment and ventilators to large companies so that they could get their cut rather than ensuring it got to that state asap. Testing was abysmal. COVID was a federal responsibility and Trump just washed his hands of it. He is even on record saying to his staff not to take phone calls from a particular lady governor of a Democrat state, because she wasn't a vocal supporter of his.

Your whole post is off.
California just recorded 700000 cases its not getting better.
NY has got a handle on covid after their own disastrous effort.
Trump was mocked for downplaying the need for more ventilators. Ended up NY had more then enough and sent them to other states.
64 billion in federal aid was sent to NY.

Cumo and Deblasio have failed on multiple levels. The current mass exodus isn't a surprise.

But Trump Trump Trump

 

[IFocus]

Trump refused to meet, need a link. If its just a bunch of plebs instead of officials wanting to put two bits in. Then it doesn't really count.

Dr Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, has not briefed President Donald Trump in the past two months about the coronavirus pandemic, as cases surge in parts of the US.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...virus-briefing-task-force-covid-a9613371.html



https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/21/dr-...ited-to-white-house-coronavirus-briefing.html

 

[bellenuit]

Your whole post is off.
California just recorded 700000 cases its not getting better.

If you want California's graph, here it is.

It seems to be on a par with Texas and Florida, but less than both on a per population basis as CA has 33% more people than Texas and nearly double that of Florida. On a total deaths per million basis, Californian, Texas and Florida are 327, 441 and 517 respectively.

 

[wayneL]

Elsewhere this evening, I had a whinge about clients and the desire to retreat my cave.

Further.

When I go to a job, I expect to field questions on hoof capsule morphology and physiology, biomechanics, and podotrochlear pathology.

Instead, and today was typical ( a rare transgression of the Sabbath), I ended up in a debate (initiated by... Not me) on BLM, METOO, the second amendment(?), and the merits (or not FFS) of marxism.

FFS, for the first time in my life I understand why hairdressers are all psycho.

 

[dutchie]

Instead, and today was typical ( a rare transgression of the Sabbath), I ended up in a debate (initiated by... Not me) on BLM, METOO, the second amendment(?), and the merits (or not FFS) of marxism.

Discussions like that should definitely be left to Stock Forums.

 

[SirRumpole]

FFS, for the first time in my life I understand why hairdressers are all psycho.

Not a good thought when they have a razor on your neck.

 

[dutchie]

More and more Americans are realising how dangerous the left (Democrats, BLM, Antifa) are.

 

[moXJO]

Dr Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, has not briefed President Donald Trump in the past two months about the coronavirus pandemic, as cases surge in parts of the US.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...virus-briefing-task-force-covid-a9613371.html



https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/21/dr-...ited-to-white-house-coronavirus-briefing.html

He was having surgery and its the CDC that advises. Fauci is the media front man. Trump and Fauci disagree on reopening the economy.

 

[dutchie]

Can any of you Marxists translate this for me?

 

[dutchie]

Proud Mayor Lets His Entire City Burn To The Ground Just To Make Trump Look Bad

PORTLAND, OR—In an effort to prevent the reelection of sitting President Donald Trump, Mayor Ted Wheeler is encouraging citizens to raze their city to the ground. They hope that by desolating the entire city and reducing it to nothing more than smoking heaps of ash, that Trump won’t stand a chance in 2020.

“This is a small price to pay, if it means getting literally Hitler out of office,” said Mayor Ted Wheeler pouring gasoline throughout the city. “Now burn those buildings down! Burn them all!”

In response to the violence, the president has offered to send support to restore the peace to the city. Instead of giving Trump the political win he craves, Mayor Wheeler has come up with a solution of his own. “You can’t restore law and order to a city if there is no city left!”

Many questioned Mayor Wheeler’s commitment to the cause until he struck a match and set his own home ablaze. “In the end, this will all be worth it. Homes can be rebuilt, but a chance at hurting Trump’s poll numbers is priceless!”

So far there have been no signs of these actions negatively affecting Trump’s re-election chances. Confusingly, some polls even show Trump gaining ground