The "Joke" of the Century!

[Epsilon]

Surely the Oscar for the "Joke" of the Century MUST GO to the Iranian President Ahmadinejad, who, while speaking -in a belligerently polemic manner- at the UN General Assembly in New York, said, inter alia:....."Our religion precludes us from building nuclear weapons"!!!!!
Obviously, (indirectly) he was alluding to the immence catastrophic capacity of the Nuclear Bomb....
What religion, what humanely pacifistic religion was he, referring to though?
Obviously Islam. The same religion which permeates every aspect of life in Iran today......The same religion that promotes killings of "infidels" as a quickest and surer way of acquiring the status of a martyr thus "guarrantying" a safe passage to the pilaffic fields, replete with the flottilas of virgin beauties, of Allah......
What a joke indeed....If the situation were not as serious as it is, (with its unforseen consequences), if the West were to allow the Mullahs of Tehran to proceed with their nuclear plans thus ultimately being able to wield their nuclear Damocles sword over the rest of the world.....One should not stop laughing with the risible Islamic cunningness of the Iranian President!!!!!
Cheers.......Smile, irrespective))))

 

[pete152]

Bugger I thought the biggest joke was OPM.
Peter

 

[Bronte]

Hope you see the funny and clever side to this.....

 

[Happy]

UN did not stop anybody yet be it Israel, India, Pakistan, Korea so Iran will have it too.

 

[Smurf1976]

If we just stopped using so much oil and gas then Iran wouldn't have the financial, and most likely physical, resources to be messing about with atomic bombs in the first place.

The big natural resource attraction with Iran is gas, oil comes second so both fuels are in the bad camp here. They send the fuel, the West sends the money in ever increasing amounts as the resources become scarce outside of the Middle East.

It would be a huge step if we just stopped wasting gas and oil for electricity generation which can be done instead by hydro, wind, geothermal, coal, nuclear power etc.

 

[Epsilon]

Bronte......Have you tried it? Does it taste o.k? I mean....does it taste better than the....Test?
Cheers!!!!! Enjoy it!!!!
Happy......That's precisely the reason WHY the Islamo-fascists MUST BE STOPPED at ALL Costs!!!!!
If it takes more "drastic measures", Well...So be it.
We must NOT FORGET we are not dealing with rational, sensible human beings here. They (Islamic fanatics, as the Mullahs are) can elevate the killing of "infidels" to their one and only jihadic mission in life in order to satisfy the voracious Molochic appetite of their Allah. Human life and all it means and entails for us, in the West (also the East) means nothing, absolutely nothing for them!
Smurf, you are right BUT......With the improvement of the standard of living in China, India and other as yet developing countries the chances are that.....No matter how prudent we are with our consumption of petroleum, the end, inevitable result will (in a few years time) the same. Depletion of most Oil reserves. It's a frightening thought, which unfortunately, ultimately will become a reality and which unavoidably will have severe repercussions upon our civilisation .....Nothing we can do about it...Except perhaps invent (or discover) alternative sources of energy.....
Cheers.....Great new week to all of us))

 

[Happy]

And Solar and tidal and geothermal and few more.

On top of that we can put extra jumper on and reduce consumption by lowering winter temperature by 1 or 2 degrees, also let temperature be bit higher in summer.

We can insulate walls ceilings, not allow the Sun to shine on our house windows during the summer, plant deciduous trees on Northern side of house, have there little pond too.

There are hundreds of other energy saving little improvements, which multiplied by millions of households, would make big difference.

I came past info that latest steam engine start-up is 3 to 5 minutes compared to 30 minutes a decade or two ago.
I know, not as instant as turning key in ignition, but can be done, also with hybrid vehicles we can have an instant petrol start and then turn to steam, or just use hydrogen or electricity instead.

I have suspicion that the rest of the world has hand in crude oil - cookie jar and it is too hard to say no to money for nothing.
J Howzdart gets just under 40 cents per litre of unleaded petrol, so why say no to such a golden stream?

 

[Epsilon]

Please read the following article.....I found it very interesting......
Most rationally thinking individuals should find themselves in congruence with its contents....
(Apologising for the length....It's from the WASHINGTON POST).....

Iran's President Does What U.S. Diplomacy Could Not
U.N. Speech Raises Doubts About Nuclear Program

By Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 19, 2005; Page A12

NEW YORK, Sept. 18 -- Five weeks ago, Iran's new president bought his country some time. Facing mounting criticism after walking away from negotiations with Europe and restarting part of Iran's nuclear program, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad asked the world to withhold diplomatic pressure while he put together new proposals.

On Saturday, dozens of international diplomats, including the foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany, gathered at the United Nations to hear how Ahmadinejad planned to stave off a crisis.


Instead his speech, followed by a confused hour-long news conference, was able to do what weeks of high-level U.S. diplomacy had not: convince skeptical allies that Iran may, in fact, use its nuclear energy program to build atomic bombs.

Ahmadinejad appeared to threaten as much when he warned from the General Assembly podium that in the face of U.S. provocation, "we will reconsider our entire approach to the nuclear issue."

Senior European diplomats said immediately afterward that the speech had been "unhelpful." In fact, the opposite may be true.

"The effect of that speech will likely be a toughening of the international response to Iran because it was seen by so many countries as overly harsh, negative and uncompromising," Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns said in an interview Sunday. "The strategic aim of a great many countries is to see Iran suspend its nuclear program and return to peaceful negotiations with the Europeans."

A European diplomat, who could discuss strategy only on the condition of anonymity, echoed Burns's remarks.

"There's no question this will make our case stronger and our task easier," when board members of the International Atomic Energy Agency meet Monday in Vienna to discuss Iran's case.

During his 25 minutes Saturday, Ahmadinejad delivered what began as a sermon praising the prophets of Islam, Christianity and Judaism and then descended into anti-American vitriol, conspiracy theories and threats.

He expressed doubt that the deadly attacks against the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, were really carried out by terrorists. He said Americans had brought the devastation of Hurricane Katrina upon themselves and that the U.S. military was purposely poisoning its own troops in Iraq.

There were quotes from the Koran, angry finger pointing and attacks on Israel interlaced with talk of justice and tranquility. There was a staunch defense of Iran's right to peaceful nuclear energy, and to enrich uranium to fuel that program. There were no new proposals and little detail about old ones that were reoffered.

For much of last week, Iran had been the subject of endless backroom negotiations and public diplomacy, and at times, Tehran appeared to have the upper hand. But by the time the Iranian leader was headed for John F. Kennedy International Airport on Saturday night, U.S. and European officials were regaining confidence and putting together a new strategy designed to isolate Iran.

Burns met with British, German and French officials on Sunday in New York to discuss ways to bring around enough members of the IAEA board to report Iran to the U.N. Security Council, which has the authority to impose sanctions.

The United States has long advocated such a strategy but still does not have the support of India, Russia or China, or a "next steps" policy if the matter does end up in the Security Council.

Diplomats who spoke on the condition of anonymity said the most likely outcome of the week-long meeting in Vienna would be a deadline resolution giving Iran several weeks to reverse course and demonstrate transparency with U.N. nuclear inspectors, or face the consequences of Security Council action.

Iran has consistently maintained that its program is designed to produce nuclear energy, not weapons. IAEA nuclear inspectors have not found any evidence of a weapons program but several serious questions about the scale, scope and history of the program remain unanswered and have fueled suspicion that Iran is concealing information.

Ahmadinejad's speech, his first major international address as a world leader, highlights a dramatic and conservative shift in foreign affairs for Iran under the new president's leadership. Several diplomats noted that his defiant comments were strikingly different in tone and substance from those delivered from the same podium three months ago by Kamal Kharrazi, who was Iran's foreign minister until Ahmadinejad was elected this summer.

Kharrazi, who addressed a conference on the future of the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, spoke in English in an effort to reach an international audience, rather than in Persian, which is spoken almost exclusively in Iran. Although Kharrazi also defended Iran's program, which was built in secret over 18 years and exposed in 2002, he did so without threats.

That text, written by Iranian diplomats eager to see reform of political and religious life, won over countries unsure about Iran's intentions. Tehran declared victory shortly afterward when the IAEA board decided against reporting the country's nuclear program to the Security Council.

 

[Happy]

Enough time and they will join the haves countries and then it will be impossible to do anything.

Another little example how democratic rights can be used to break its back.

 

[Epsilon]

Happy.....This time, methinks the WEST is determined and UNITED to see to it that Iran is stopped with its nuclear weapons aspirations NOW , before it's too late......
It looks like they will nip the nuclear islamic monster in the bud, before it can start threatening the rest of the us, the rest of the civilised world!

 

[Bloveld]

Are you also afraid of the boogie monster?

 

[Epsilon]

Are you also afraid of the boogie monster?

Boggie monster? You got to be joking (on par with....Ahmadinejad?) my friend....
Obviously you do not read the daily news re: Indiscriminate murders, bombs, terroristic activities, killings of innocent children...women... by fanatic Jihadists...
If they (Islamic, inhumanely barbaric, fanatical fascisto-Jihadists) had for one day only, the Military Superiority the WEST (fortunately) possesses, they would hold us all at random: Either espouse Islam or you are dead!!!!
If people were afraid from a possible imposition of a communistic ideology, when the..."Better Red than dead" was invented, they (we) ain't seen nothing yet.....
At least the Soviets were humans, like you and I......These 'people" cannot reason. Can not think rationally, humanely.
Where logic stops, they (Islamo-fascists) and their deranged religion start to function......
Cheers!!!!!!!

 

[wayneL]

.......indiscriminate murders, bombs, terroristic activities, killings of innocent children...women... by fanatic Jihadists...

I thought you were talking about the CIA for a minute.....:batman:

 

[Bloveld]

Actually I have been reading the same crap in the media for over 20 years. And when I was younger and ignorant I used to believe it. But then again you might just be a stupid redneck.

 

[Epsilon]

I thought you were talking about the CIA for a minute.....:batman:

Take your anti-West blinkers off for a minute and read the following article. It's one of many that we read everyday in relation to the inhumane, barbaricactivities and killings by the fanatic, islamo-fascists Jihadists....
I hope one day you will wake-up from the Rip-Van-Winklean, Afghan Whisky induced, sleep. Have a wonderful day. Cheers))

Zawahri says al Qaeda behind London blasts-video
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:57 PM BST

DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda carried out the July suicide bombings in London to strike at "British arrogance", the group's second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahri said in a video tape aired on Arab satellite channel Al Jazeera on Monday.

"The London attack is one of the attacks that al Qaeda ... had the honour of carrying out against ... British arrogance, the aggression of the crusader British against the Muslim nation for over a hundred years," Zawahri said.

He denounced Britain for "the historical crime of setting up Israel and the continuing crimes in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"These and other attacks have revealed the true hypocritical face of Western civilisation that talks about human rights and freedom only as long as it is in its interest," he said, citing the planned toughening of British security laws after the London blasts.

Zawahri denounced the elections in Afghanistan, saying they were not free and carried out under U.S. occupation. "These elections are a farce more than anything else," he said.

He insisted that the Taliban were still powerful and said U.S. forces had to "hide" in their bases.

Al Jazeera said the tape was prepared by al Qaeda's media group al-Sahab, which distributes Islamic militant videos on the Internet, to mark the fourth anniversary of the Sept 11, 2001, attacks.

The video, excerpts of which were aired by the television, had English subtitles and showed Zawahri apparently talking to an off-camera interviewer.

Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's right-hand man, denounced reforms promoted by the United States, saying Washington would not tolerate independent Islamic governments.

"The Americans will not allow any Islamic system to come to power even in the heart of the Muslim world unless it collaborates with them," said Zawahri, who wore a black turban and a white robe.

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[Epsilon]

Actually I have been reading the same crap in the media for over 20 years. And when I was younger and ignorant I used to believe it. But then again you might just be a stupid redneck.

Bloveld...Please read the above post-article.....You may learn something that will ultimately make you a better "thinker". It's never too late
Enjoy an apolausticly (very redneck-ish word indeed...) exciting and profitable day. Cheers).....

 

[wayneL]

Take your anti-West blinkers off for a minute and read the following article. It's one of many that we read everyday in relation to the inhumane, barbaricactivities and killings by the fanatic, islamo-fascists Jihadists....
I hope one day you will wake-up from the Rip-Van-Winklean, Afghan Whisky induced, sleep. Have a wonderful day. Cheers))

I am neither blinkered, anti-west (how can I be, I am a western man?) nor a fan of "Islamo-fascists". I don't drink and neither am i in an Afghan Whiskey induced sleep.

The assumptions you have lept to perhaps expose you as one who is blinkered, no?

Get the full story my friend, read past the propoganda, study cause and effect.

 

[Caliente]

so who's the only nation to have ever used nuclear weapons in combat again?

 

[Bloveld]

Jeez, if you think those muslims are babaric, you should see what them christians have done in the last 100 years.

 

[Epsilon]

I am neither blinkered, anti-west (how can I be, I am a western man?) nor a fan of "Islamo-fascists". I don't drink and neither am i in an Afghan Whiskey induced sleep.

The assumptions you have lept to perhaps expose you as one who is blinkered, no?

Get the full story my friend, read past the propoganda, study cause and effect.

Wayne mate...I did not realise.....You live in Perth? We must catch-up for a coffee one day.....And of-course a friendly discussion))