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There's also a company looking very seriously at coal gasification using low grade coal that otherwise isn't being used for anything.
I doubt it has been announced, as the uproar would have started.What would be the prime identified sites for large hydro ? Apart from Snowy 2.0
I doubt it has been announced, as the uproar would have started.
Yes hydrogen is the key to unchaining humans from fossil fuel, it has the energy density, it has next to no emissions, but it is very inefficient to make in huge volumes.The Japanese ran an experimental plant using brown coal (gases I think) in the late 80's early 90's over east some where, an instrument tech died on the site got cooked in a hydrogen explosion.
Went looking for it and found this
“Clean” brown coal to hydrogen project likely an economic dud, says new report
Controversial brown coal-to-hydrogen project in Victoria is likely an economic dud, and lousy for the environment, says new study.reneweconomy.com.au
Fusion would sort the issue or develop nuclear but not the uranium branch..that would mean giving up nukes as side bonus .so not that favoured by leadersYes hydrogen is the key to unchaining humans from fossil fuel, it has the energy density, it has next to no emissions, but it is very inefficient to make in huge volumes.
That is the stumbling block and IMO is what will force a compromise, it will require continuous production of huge amounts of hydrogen to realistically replace the fossil fuel in the transport sector.
That will force a compromise on what electrical energy source to produce it IMO, fossil fuel makes no sense as it is a negative return, renewables I doubt will stack up due to the amount that would be required to be installed and its intermittent nature, so maybe eventually? who knows.
My personal thoughts are, there is only one energy source capable of making enough H2 at a scale big enough to satisfy the demand and do it without emissions.
Time will tell, but I can't see any other answer for Europe and Asia ATM, but you never know technology is coming up with brilliant ideas all the time.
Look at thorium if not aware of already...Fusion would sort the issue or develop nuclear but not the uranium branch..that would mean giving up nukes as side bonus .so not that favoured by leaders
They had the chief engineer talk about it on the ABC some time ago.The Japanese ran an experimental plant using brown coal (gases I think) in the late 80's early 90's over east some where, an instrument tech died on the site got cooked in a hydrogen explosion.
Went looking for it and found this
“Clean” brown coal to hydrogen project likely an economic dud, says new report
Controversial brown coal-to-hydrogen project in Victoria is likely an economic dud, and lousy for the environment, says new study.reneweconomy.com.au
Morwell (Victoria).The Japanese ran an experimental plant using brown coal (gases I think) in the late 80's early 90's over east some where, an instrument tech died on the site got cooked in a hydrogen explosion.
I'll cautiously say the sites would be extremely contentious with regard to environmental effects and that I absolutely do see both sides of that situation. There's sound engineering but there's an undeniable value of that same land for conservation and that being so, any decision to proceed would most definitely be seen as a sacrifice.What would be the prime identified sites for large hydro ? Apart from Snowy 2.0
Well it was only recently, that Dan Andrews committed to put some funding in.
Another article on the Marinus link:
Another article on the Marinus link:
‘Battery of the nation’ renewable project scaled back amid cost blowout
The federal government, Victoria and Tasmania are pushing ahead with a multibillion-dollar project to improve energy security on both sides of the Tasman.www.theage.com.au
A renewable energy project touted as an essential part of the plan to make Tasmania the “battery of the nation” and boost energy security on the mainland has been scaled back after a multibillion-dollar cost blowout.
The Marinus Link, a joint venture between the federal government, Victoria and Tasmania, was expected to cost $3 billion in 2017 for two 750-megawatt cables, but costs ballooned to an estimated $6 billion due to global inflation, spiralling steel prices and supply chain disruptions.
Federal Energy Minister Chris Bowen revealed on Sunday that the venture would proceed with only a single cable, costing $3.3 billion, in response to the cost blowout. He said the goal was to begin delivering power to the mainland by 2028.
He said the single cable would deliver about two-thirds of the benefits that would have come from having two cables, and that it would boost energy security on both sides of the Bass Strait by backing up Tasmania’s renewable generation in the darker months of winter and filling gaps on the eastern seaboard.
“Marinus Link is an important project for Australia’s renewable transformation and a vital project for Tasmania as well as the mainland,” Bowen said.
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He confirmed on Sunday that the Albanese government has increased its stake to 49 per cent of the joint venture, in which Victoria has a 33.3 per cent share and Tasmania now has 17.7 per cent, with an option to sell its stake to the Commonwealth on completion.
His announcement followed Tasmanian Energy Minister Guy Barnett’s comments last month that there was a “line in the sand” on costs his state would not cross.
The additional commitment is worth about $76 million, bringing the federal government’s total contribution to $1.6 billion. Those funds will be sourced from the $20 billion Rewiring the Nation fund for new electricity transmission projects.
Yes it does seem a little 'penny wise pound foolish', at the end of the day the requirement for deep storage is going to increase not decrease and so will the cost.Prices of materials do go up and down so cutting the project back on a worse case scenario seems a bit premature.
There's a very real limit on it given the four generating units aren't exactly new.she could not say for how long, or at what cost.
Yes, the boilers would be getting tired.There's a very real limit on it given the four generating units aren't exactly new.
First unit in service 1982, two more in 1983, final one in 1984.
There's also a relatively small gas turbine, 42MW, commissioned 2008.
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