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The future of energy generation and storage

No you said they are like batteries and you throw emojis round like a peanut ?
Your making a fool of yourself
How old are you 14
Ok I thought you had a brain obviously not.
What is a battery? A medium for storing electrical energy, so that it can be used at a later time.
What is hydrogen, a method of storing energy so that it can be used at a later time.
Now the hard bit, what converts that stored hydrogen energy, into electricity at a later time.
Hmmm I think you know the answer, the gas turbine.
So it is like a battery, the energy is stored as hydrogen and discharged when you need it through the gas turbine.
Now you will be able to sound smart in the crib room, for a change.?
You could also tell the guys in the crib room that a hydro dam is like a really big battery, but you will have to explain the difference between chemical energy and kinetic energy, so best you don't go there.?

By the way, I loved the peanut emoji, i bet that was the first thing that came into your mind, when I said buy yourself an ice cream.
I should have said, buy yourself a bag of peanuts.?
 
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So any generator is like a batttery.....ok thanks
 
Thought they were the same
 
They both change energy into electricity, the difference is how the energy is stored.
For a storage function they can both provide that service, strange you can't understand that.
If excess renewable generation is used to produce hydrogen, then that hydrogen is used at a later date to produce electricity it can be classed as a form of storage, it's a shame you can't grasp the concept.
An electric car and a car fitted with an internal combustion engine are both cars, they both provide the same functionality in certain applications. They are both modes of transport, but they aren't identical In how they operate.
 
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Ones a battery ones a power station
The fuel is irrelevant
 
You didn't hear it from me and it's all "speculation, allegedly and possibly false".

But the guys on snowy hydro are massively behind. Contracts went to someone who was something like a billion $ under the next guy. They will most likely kill that budget with amendments. I'm hearing that things are not being done "to standard" and then redone at a higher cost in amendment. Not sure about much of the details.

Apparently the crews down there are a lot of leaners. I'm hearing it's a bit of a sht show though. It does happen a lot on these big jobs though.

I always wondered why they don’t have a govt worker on-site observing/overseeing the job that has experience. Not just a bunch of walks that occasionally turn up in a group for half an hour then go off to brunch.
 
A mate reckons money was ordinary and a lot of labour hire with very little experience
 
A mate reckons money was ordinary and a lot of labour hire with very little experience
I heard the same thing. I think a lot of young guys jumped at it as they ain't earning that much anywhere else. I think it's 2 weeks on 1 off.

I'd say the hammer is about to drop and they will shake out the duds.
 
Ones a battery ones a power station
The fuel is irrelevant
Actually one is passive storage, the other is a generator, if you want to be accurate.
One requires fuel the other doesn't, they both store energy, the battery in chemical form, the generator in the fuel source.
The fuel is very relevant in the clean emissions debate, how the battery is charged and the fuel the generator uses is extremely relevant, you could say it is of paramount importance.
The battery and the generator are providing peaking power, so really they are carrying out the same function, the difference is the generator can carry out the function for a longer period as long as there is fuel available.
In some situations the battery will be more suitable, in other situations the generator will be more suitable.
 
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The Libs want to run Kurri Kurri on NG and labor on H
Are they both batteries?
Or both power stations
 
At last, the penny has dropped, well done.
Buy youself an icecream.?
Im agreeing with Albo, you were saying it couldnt be done.?
You obviously didnt even know gas turbines could run on hydrogen and you work on them, how sad is that??
I posted the story about Kurri Kurri and hydrogen you moron
 

Great piece of analysis and research Smurf. It does nail the elephant in the room of realistic simultaneous drops on renewable energy across the country. I can understand why standby gas powered generators seem to be the most realistic solution. As you point out the short term battery options won't cover a week of low power.
 
We have been discussing Kurri Kurri and its ability to burn H2 since it was first announced, maybe if you read more of the threads, rather than just trolling people you would be more knowledgeable.?
 
Still carrying on with your senseless dribble @Humid , why don't you try and add some value, to the forum.
It certainly would be a pleasant change.
 
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